# The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271 "2009-04-24T22:16:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 57
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1121 "2009-05-12T19:32:40Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Heh. Anyone for the Tower of Babel Mafia? > > Mafia = Angels? Pedescribe : Seriously, Do think this idea might work? Everyone is given a different language, and MUST translate into, and out of that language, to post in the thread? Regular Mafia game under that? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1122 "2009-05-12T21:05:12Z")
OK, so the real question becomes what we want to do now. I guess I’ll just say what I’m currently thinking. Was Paul totally honest with his claim? I don’t understand what his actually role was and if he explained things clearly and honestly to us. I know I voted for him because I didn’t wasn’t sure I believed him and his powers seemed both good and bad, but was he honest? Also, do we know for sure that specialed and Meeko aren’t scum masons? I don’t know if that is what you mean by “traitor masons”, but it is what I have been wondering. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1123 "2009-05-12T21:14:23Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Also, do we know for sure that specialed and Meeko aren’t scum masons? I don’t know if that is what you mean by “traitor masons”, but it is what I have been wondering. I think a traitor mason would be when one person in the mason group is actually scum. This way that person can gain the trust of the other masons first and town after a claim and guide them into mislynches. I’d have to wonder if something like that is more popular with an open or a closed setup though. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1124 "2009-05-12T21:31:35Z")
Even if there is no actual “traitor mason” role in this game, we still can’t trust the Masons completely, since it’s possible that one (or more) of them might embrace Sin. All we know right now is that **special ed** and **Meeko** started off on the same team. Once one of them dies (which is bound to happen eventually), then we’ll also know what team that was (it’s possible, of course, that there are no masons in this game and they’re both Scum-- It’d be a risky play by Scum, but not one we can rule out completely yet). Meanwhile, all of my notes I’ve been keeping in this game are at home. I’ll post again in a few hours when I can look them over again, in light of what we know now about **paul**. ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1125 "2009-05-12T23:15:00Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Even if there is no actual “traitor mason” role in this game, we still can’t trust the Masons completely, since it’s possible that one (or more) of them might embrace Sin. All we know right now is that **special ed** and **Meeko** started off on the same team. Once one of them dies (which is bound to happen eventually), then we’ll also know what team that was (it’s possible, of course, that there are no masons in this game and they’re both Scum-- It’d be a risky play by Scum, but not one we can rule out completely yet). > > Meanwhile, all of my notes I’ve been keeping in this game are at home. I’ll post again in a few hours when I can look them over again, in light of what we know now about **paul**. Interesting spot, Chronos. So far we’ Hears whether ve anybody has accepted the sin last night. I believed personally perhaps Captain Pinkie is the only primitive criminal. That will explain absorption criminal’s many opportunities and Pedescribe’ s answered, when I asked that in competition at the beginning, criminal whether to know who is and had their thread (he to reply " Sorts of"). If this is not real, I’ Whose is d infected last night likely bravely steps forward. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1126 "2009-05-13T00:01:58Z")
At this point, I only know 2 things. 1. **Someone or Something protected me last night**. A PM from pede told me that I woke up in the morning feeling all snugly and protected. 2. The Chinese don get contractions 't. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1127 "2009-05-13T00:47:03Z")
That’s good to know. Telecontar easily could have been our only protective role. However, I’d suggest that whoever wakes up with a slightly healed feeling in subsequent Nights stay quiet: we don’t want to give the scum any insights into our doctor’s thinking, so that they have a harder time outguessing him. ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1128 "2009-05-13T00:48:56Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > God has transmitted my another information. Because the way my sin has been cleaned, I have the contribution restriction today. Must translate possesses my post to become Chinese from English then to become English from Chinese. I affirmed that the hope clean is a pleasure! Oh, this is interesting, I accidentally posted the word wall to enter the translator from another competition. Oh my goodness, this is funny! 🙂 It was a shame about paul, but that was sort of inevitable. Depending on how his power was used, it could help either town or sinners. But not the Blackhearts. And the vig aspect of his role claim would have spooked them - voluntary vigs are strong players. All in all, Day 2 was quite good for Town. Let’s keep it up for Day 3. Find someone suspicious and build up a case against them, but not last minute like I was doing yesterDay. We need time to discuss, debate and argue our points. Okay… go! 🙂 On preview: Rysto makes a good point. Hush-hush, people. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1129 "2009-05-13T01:12:50Z")
If I understand Angel correctly(and I might not), she is suggesting that whomever was ensinned last night come forward. I was NOT ensinned last night and remain a pure townie. Everyone else? By the way, remember my vote is bought. I will participate in conversations and I believe that I may be able to suggest who I would have voted for, but unless I’m wrong…my vote is going wherever the vote buyer says. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1130 "2009-05-13T01:22:02Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > That’s good to know. Telecontar easily could have been our only protective role. However, I’d suggest that whoever wakes up with a slightly healed feeling in subsequent Nights stay quiet > [@Mahaloth](#): > > If I understand Angel correctly(and I might not), she is suggesting that whomever was ensinned last night come forward. > > I was NOT ensinned last night and remain a pure townie. Rysto, I agree, But I figured that it was more vital that I reveal I was healed, over staying quiet. Which in turn, plays into Mahaloth, I agree, I think Angel is asking for the sinfected to identify themselves. \*\* To this end, and To Rysto’s end, that is why I admitted that I was protected. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1131 "2009-05-13T01:23:13Z")
NETA: \*\*Fck me. \*\* \*\*Protected. Not healed. I have not ever been sinfected. \*\* Thats what I get for playing Mafia, Eating Ice Cream, and Watching Season Finale of Fringe. ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1132 "2009-05-13T01:24:47Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > If I understand Angel correctly(and I might not), she is suggesting that whomever was ensinned last night come forward. > > I was NOT ensinned last night and remain a pure townie. > > Everyone else? > > By the way, remember my vote is bought. I will participate in conversations and I believe that I may be able to suggest who I would have voted for, but unless I’m wrong…my vote is going wherever the vote buyer says. ☹ Yes! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1133 "2009-05-13T01:30:49Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > Yes! Hey, I do what I can! 🙂 Meeko, I am also watching Fringe’s finale. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1134 "2009-05-13T01:32:10Z")
Angel I am working on two assumptions right now: 1. You have been cured, and no longer have Sin, but you have to translate, and translate back everything you say into Chinese. 2.The word for yes and the word for no , by itself can **successfully** translate, and translate back. Do I have these two assumptions correct? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1135 "2009-05-13T01:33:11Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Meeko, I am also watching Fringe’s finale. 🙂 Mahaloth : I am on Tivo delay with it. so dont spoil ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1136 "2009-05-13T01:33:53Z")
Yes, Meeko, I believe Angel explained question one just as you said. I know a good amount of Chinese, and Yes and No should more or less go through right. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1137 "2009-05-13T01:53:13Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > So…Meeko and Special Ed…I know this doesn’t confirm me as town, but I AM town and you two are the closest we have to confirmed town. I intend to vote along with you guys to lessen a chance of a mislynch. > > Since the two of you seem to be at odds, it might help town if you can find a way to work together. Just because we don’t agree doesn’t mean we are at odds. We are each entitled to our own opinions and I wouldn’t consider forcing meeko to follow my opinions. He can assure you that I’ve said as much in the mason thread, encouraging him to make his cases even when I’ve told him that I disagreed with him. I’m not certain we’ll vote together however. And I’m not certain that following either of us will avoid a mislynch. It strike me as odd that you’re giving up accountability for you vote. By saying you’ll follow us, you can’t be faulted for your vote, it’ll be meeko’s or my fault. I’d much rather you voted as you see fit so we can hold you accountable. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1138 "2009-05-13T01:54:59Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Well, something interesting to look at is that Paul said his vote was bought yesterDay, he voted for Captain Pinkies, this created a tie between Pinkies and Paul, if that person had decided to not make paul vote (assuming that’s allowed. If you buy a vote, can you make the person not vote) Paul would have died yesterday. > Not sure if that’s interesting or not, but it seems useful. and Pinkies was a Sinner, so it’s likely our politician is Town or Blackheart. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1139 "2009-05-13T01:55:42Z")
Ed : message for you in masonry ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1140 "2009-05-13T01:56:39Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > Special Ed, what is the likelihood in your opinion that there’s a traitor mason? Were you guys told the alignment of each other in your mason thread? Did you not read my role PM as I posted it? I was assured that meeko was Town. Pede would NOT do that again. Though, you might say that about this being the 3rd game in a row of his that he’s made me a mason. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=56) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=58)