# The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271 "2009-04-24T22:16:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/101 "2009-04-29T01:00:16Z")
Pedescribe, sorry…where do I turn that on? My first go on this board. ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/102 "2009-04-29T01:01:38Z")
NM, I found it, they’re turned on now, thanks and sorry for the trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/103 "2009-04-29T01:02:37Z")
Click on User CP (top left of the page), click on List Options on the left side and it’s about half way down “Enable Private Messaging” I believe. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/104 "2009-04-29T01:05:50Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > **Does that mean we can edit our posts?** > > > [@pedescribe](#): > > > > Yes, you may. DON’T DO IT! If we allow Town to edit posts, for whatever reason “clarity” “a typo” etc, then we are allowing Scum to edit their posts as well. And they might not be so nice as to not change things that might make them look Scummy. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/105 "2009-04-29T01:16:58Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Not sure if that was a woosh or not, but my “vote count” was a joke as there were no votes cast yet (and we were, what, like 20 minutes into the day). Votes are cast publicly, in one of the first posts of this thread Ped explained how to cast a vote. > > OTOH, if that was a woosh, jokes on me. S, OTO,OH [Still. on the other, other hand] Your Joke wooshed me. 🙂 So uhm. Uh. We basically wait for someone to “say” or ““do”” something and base our vote on those actions. Correct? That is meant to anyone who wants to answer, not strictly for the Mod. I bet his hands are busy. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/106 "2009-04-29T01:19:57Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > S, OTO,OH [Still. on the other, other hand] Your Joke wooshed me. 🙂 > > So uhm. Uh. We basically wait for someone to “say” or ““do”” something and base our vote on those actions. Correct? > > That is meant to anyone who wants to answer, not strictly for the Mod. I bet his hands are busy. His hands are busy? PEDE! STOP THAT!!! gross OK, yeah, hello, Meeko, you’re pretty new, eh? Has anyone turned you on to any information about mafia yet? [http://www.sitesled.com/members/mikeburnfire/mafiascum04.swf](http://www.sitesled.com/members/mikeburnfire/mafiascum04.swf) [http://mafiagameswiki.com](http://mafiagameswiki.com) ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/107 "2009-04-29T01:40:02Z")
Yes, I highly suggest we all agree to not edit. If a scum of either kind goofs up, we don’t want to allow them to edit it out. We should really be careful about that. Meeko, we publicly vote right here in the thread. It’s definitely an asset to know how people voted. By the way, anyone given any thought to my questions on the previous page? I asked: \*\* So what is the primary disadvantage to ostracization? I want to make sure I understand the options. I’m still figuring these distinctions out. Why would we not ostracize? What does it do? What doesn’t it do? \*\* I think it’s a pretty good starting point for conversation. Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/108 "2009-04-29T01:55:46Z")
Hey, just checking in. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/109 "2009-04-29T02:01:27Z")
Confirming receipt of role PM. This is my first game playing, but I’ve watched several others with interest. A lynch prevents a night action, while an ostracization does not. So if we suspect a person of being a Scum power role, we should lynch, and hope that the hangman decides to pray it off. But if we just suspect someone of being generic Scum, then we should ostracize. I suspect that means that we’ll be mostly just ostracizing, until and unless we get some hard information relatively late in the game. Depending, of course, on the number of power roles on each side. These literary-themed games usually have named characters for the power roles, right? I’m guessing we have someone on the Sinner side with the role “Hester Prynne”, and someone on the Blackheart side with the role “Roger Chillingworth”, at least. Can anyone who’s read _The Scarlet Letter_ speculate on other roles? ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/110 "2009-04-29T03:03:49Z")
Hello everyone. This is my 4th game, and I am excited at all the interest in Mafia on this board…I recognize very few of you! Basically, it appears that the disadvantage of ostracizing is that it allows the ostracized party to do a night action that night. Based on the games I have played in and read, it seems relatively rare for scum to have useful individual night actions. That would imply that the disadvantage of ostracizing is relatively small, and that that should probably be our first choice (unless we have some reason to believe that a particular person is not only scum, but a scum power role). On the other hand, the above might also imply that this is a game where there are more scum power roles than usual. Ped, am I correct in assuming that ostracized players may use their night action the night after being ostracized, but are then totally out of the game? ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/111 "2009-04-29T03:05:35Z")
Oh yeah, and I totally agree that we should view any editing of posts with extreme suspicion. I will almost certainly vote for any player caught editing a post, the presumption being that he may have done so in order to cover up a scum slip. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/112 "2009-04-29T03:09:27Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Hello everyone. This is my 4th game, and I am excited at all the interest in Mafia on this board…I recognize very few of you! > > Basically, it appears that the disadvantage of ostracizing is that it allows the ostracized party to do a night action that night. Based on the games I have played in and read, it seems relatively rare for scum to have useful individual night actions. > > That would imply that the disadvantage of ostracizing is relatively small, and that that should probably be our first choice (unless we have some reason to believe that a particular person is not only scum, but a scum power role). On the other hand, the above might also imply that this is a game where there are more scum power roles than usual. > > Ped, am I correct in assuming that ostracized players may use their night action the night after being ostracized, but are then totally out of the game? Depending. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/113 "2009-04-29T03:11:27Z")
I am going to put my Noob hat on again here. But, don’t forget that one option, the last person to vote for it, gets the seed of sin impanted in them, correct? As I understand it, that’s pretty much -1 for the town. Automatic. Granted, there are ways to remove it. But if those ways to remove it are also removed in turn… ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/114 "2009-04-29T04:43:53Z")
Hey all, AllWalker here, this is my second Mafia game. But I did pretty well in the last one. Hooray for luck! Anyway, killing is preferable is we are sure the target is Scum, as it denies them their Night action powers. This comes with the price of Sin, though, but since we don’t know what the Scum Night powers are it may be worth it. Ostracising is preferable if we are not too sure on a player’s alignment, as ostracised Good Guys can still use their Night powers. Of course, we will never be certain that any player is Scum, not unless they play badly. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/115 "2009-04-29T04:49:15Z")
Um…why did you add me to the list? I didn’t want to play unless I got an answer to my question first (which you just answered earlier today). I wasn’t saying I wanted to play, though. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/116 "2009-04-29T05:01:36Z")
Whatever, I’ll play, I guess. Haha, just is so weird how I always seem to be thrown into these games. : p ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/117 "2009-04-29T11:43:50Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > His hands are busy? > > PEDE! STOP THAT!!! gross > OK, yeah, hello, Meeko, you’re pretty new, eh? Has anyone turned you on to any information about mafia yet? > > [http://www.sitesled.com/members/mikeburnfire/mafiascum04.swf](http://www.sitesled.com/members/mikeburnfire/mafiascum04.swf) > > [http://mafiagameswiki.com](http://mafiagameswiki.com) I’ll also point out that he can look through old games at Idle’s offboard Mafia site here: [Home | Mafia Games](http://psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi) …to get a feel for mafia as well. The offboard site games are generally more complex than the Dope games. And I’d be remiss if I didn’t plug the “Dope and its tangential communities Mafia Wiki”: [http://wiki.flyingcowofdoom.com/mafiaWiki/Main\_Page](http://wiki.flyingcowofdoom.com/mafiaWiki/Main_Page) Oh, and I’m not in the game, so voting for me will accomplish nothing. Really. ETA: Huh. I was unaware that FCOD had registered another domain for our Wiki. I was thinking that Ed linked to the MafiaScum wiki (another nice source for information, and the community from which the guy who made the sitesled came from, I believe). ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/118 "2009-04-29T12:07:01Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > But, don’t forget that one option, the last person to vote for it, gets the seed of sin impanted in them, correct? > > As I understand it, that’s pretty much -1 for the town. Automatic. > . Yes, it definitely carries consequence for us townies to kill instead of ostracize. **Only if we kill does someone get infected with the Seed of Sin.** At least if I’m understanding it, this is the only way to get “sinified”. I tend to think that ostracization is better early on, because a lot of our decisions will not have confidence early on…unless a scum makes a serious error. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/119 "2009-04-29T12:14:20Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Yes, it definitely carries consequence for us townies to kill instead of ostracize. **Only if we kill does someone get infected with the Seed of Sin.** At least if I’m understanding it, this is the only way to get “sinified”. No, the sinners can ‘sinify’ someone as well. I assume that’s their version of a night kill. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/120 "2009-04-29T13:02:39Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > No, the sinners can ‘sinify’ someone as well. I assume that’s their version of a night kill. Ah, sorry for the error. I think once we play through Day One and Night One, we’ll get a better idea of the game. So two people can get the Seed of Sin a Day/Night? One from a kill and one from the standard night-time action of the sinners. Yeesh, so **one of us gets killed by the blackheart** scums and another **one of us gets sinified every** night. Tough game. **Meeko** , don’t worry about asking questions. I’ve played before and see how many misunderstandings I have/had about the game? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=7)