# The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271 "2009-04-24T22:16:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 62
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1221 "2009-05-14T11:32:52Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > This seems to suggest that it might be to the advantage of almost everyone for Town and Sinners to collaborate for a Sinner victory. \ This should be posted on the Wiki as the most blatant anti town suggestion EVER. Welcome to history. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1222 "2009-05-14T11:37:39Z")
**Unvote all[/color** **[color=blue]vote chronos** ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1223 "2009-05-14T11:40:40Z")
Fuggit, I know we can do the edit, but no fucking way. **unvote all** **vote chronos** ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1224 "2009-05-14T11:58:11Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > \ > > This should be posted on the Wiki as the most blatant anti town suggestion EVER. > > Welcome to history. Well that’s the thing - it was anti_town_, but pro every player. And it needed a full claim on behalf of the Scum - which would be the most protown outcome possible. I see it as a creative, if foolish, interpretation of the rules and wincons. It may even have worked, even if it violated the spirit of the game. But it was by no means scummy. Um, are you going to keep voting/unvoting? Might it be simpler to simply make your points, and decide when you are caught up? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1225 "2009-05-14T12:24:19Z")
Ok. And I already said I was linear so this feels like a blog more than anything. Just trying to help. I’m on page 4. Don’t do the linky thing so this is as good as it is going to get. > [@Chronos](#): > > As I read that: **Meeko** thinks, based on my admittedly convoluted idea, that I might be a Scum power role. Obviously I don’t agree with his conclusion, but I guess I can sort of see his argument for it. If I am indeed a Scum power role, then it’s to the Town’s advantage for me to not only be lynched, but also executed, lest I use some sort of dastardly power tonight. We know that the sin of killing me can be erased, but we don’t know that whatever scummy power I might have can be undone. > > It’s certainly possibly, and with **pedescribe** taking the “neither confirm nor deny” stance on it, my previously-posted plan becomes a lot riskier (if it goes wrong, the most likely outcome would be a victory for Blackhearts alone, which neither I nor most of you guys would be happy with). So it looks like “everyone wins” is not going to happen. A pity, but that was a lot to hope for, so I can’t really be _too_ disappointed about it failing. Gahh. If you are still alive when I get caught up you must have claimed something and proved it. Aiiiieeee. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1226 "2009-05-14T12:32:09Z")
> [@AllWalker](#): > > Well that’s the thing - it was anti_town_, but pro every player. And it needed a full claim on behalf of the Scum - which would be the most protown outcome possible. > > I see it as a creative, if foolish, interpretation of the rules and wincons. It may even have worked, even if it violated the spirit of the game. But it was by no means scummy. > > Um, are you going to keep voting/unvoting? Might it be simpler to simply make your points, and decide when you are caught up? 'Kay. Get your point, but… I play on a BB so I don’t have the luxury to do links and or a heck of a lot of multi post analysis. Also, you guys/gals are 20+ pages into this game. I am just getting started. I’ll toss it to a “vote”. You want observations on the way or just a data dump at the end? I’ll stop going forward until I hear from the crew. Sheeps, I thought it would be pro town to have a newb to this game, uncolored by previous stuff make observations along the way. If it’s a bad idea let me know and I’ll stop. I mean it’s not like no fold em hold em. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1227 "2009-05-14T12:37:34Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > 'Kay. Get your point, but… > > I play on a BB so I don’t have the luxury to do links and or a heck of a lot of multi post analysis. Also, you guys/gals are 20+ pages into this game. I am just getting started. > > I’ll toss it to a “vote”. You want observations on the way or just a data dump at the end? > > I’ll stop going forward until I hear from the crew. > > Sheeps, I thought it would be pro town to have a newb to this game, uncolored by previous stuff make observations along the way. > > If it’s a bad idea let me know and I’ll stop. I mean it’s not like no fold em hold em. Do whatever you want, peek, we’ll just read what you have to say. I don’t mind you posting as you catch up ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1228 "2009-05-14T12:49:01Z")
Go ahead and post as you read. Just let us know what page you are on. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1229 "2009-05-14T13:26:51Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Go ahead and post as you read. Just let us know what page you are on. No, not page number. Use post number, please. I have my pages set up differently than the default. I only have 7 pages so far, and the newest posts show up on page 1, so I’ll never be able to follow alon. Everyone should be able to find a post number though ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1230 "2009-05-14T13:44:57Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > No, not page number. Use post number, please. I have my pages set up differently than the default. I only have 7 pages so far, and the newest posts show up on page 1, so I’ll never be able to follow alon. Everyone should be able to find a post number though I was actually going to say that peeker should really give us the Day/Night he is reading about as well. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1231 "2009-05-14T14:01:07Z")
From page 5 > [@Telcontar](#): > > **I think that lynch the lurker only works when the lurker is town.** > > Also, if captain pinkies is scum then he probably have 5+ PMs waiting for him next time he logs on telling him to get his ass over here and say something. \ Bolding, mine. Huh, WTF. LTL works when they are town? PMs, I thought this was kind of frowned on. Of course with editing allowed maybe communication outside of approved boards is copacetic. Jesu Christo. Gotta say this is a gas. Kind of like reading Christie and making notes as you go. And I just want to add. I know this game is about deceit and misdirection but … I truly am just reading and observing post to post. Kind of like the night hold ems. I wouldn’t screw with that. Except that I am also trying to semi stay current with current posts. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1232 "2009-05-14T14:03:57Z")
'Kay, we all use different page settings. I am going to use post number in the future. 'Tay? And even if it’s not, tough tittie. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1233 "2009-05-14T14:23:27Z")
Post 256 > [@special\_ed](#): > > so, you skimmed the parts where we discussed the fact while editing was allowed, it was certainly going to be viewed as anti-Town? (see posts 97, 104, 107, 111) Most of these right about the same time you started positng in posts 101 and 102 and before you edited post 123. > > I don’t know that I think you’re Scum. Anti-Town, yes. And you seemed to have deliberately made a move (trying to set a precident for editing) which can only be viewed as Pro-Scum. **ed** can you get off this? Shit happens. The og has said it’s otay. The only time that I have seen it influence game play was when zuma, tdn, idle, naf or some wacko posted a scum message to the main board. The other times it’s just innocent clean up shit. Edited just to phuq with you. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1234 "2009-05-14T14:39:35Z")
262 and 261 > [@special\_ed](#): > > Perhaps I overstated it. > > I can’t be certain what her motivation may have been. But I do see a possible Scum motivation for making an edit. The possible Scum motivation is to set a precedent for editing in this game. Allowing editing will benefit Scum, not Town. > > I see no possible Town benefit for editing a post, especially one so insignificant. GD. You are a PITA. **unvote** **vote ed** And **pede** your weird voting conventions are also a PITA. This is even worse than borda FCS. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1235 "2009-05-14T14:42:22Z")
Shit **unvote** **make ed an ostrich** ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1236 "2009-05-14T14:44:04Z")
peeker, just so you know, the whole ostracize vs. execute thing is gone now. We just lynch normally. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1237 "2009-05-14T14:47:11Z")
Did you just vote ed because he spent early time in the game emphasizing that we should not edit…something we all pretty much agree with? Did you just throw a vote on him for being a pain in the ass? **NOT PRO-TOWN** Kind of scummy to fling votes on players like that. When you voted for me, briefly, it was because I was giving instruction to a new player about Ped’s way of explaining rules\*\* before the game even began or roles were assigned\*\*, which is ridiculous. Were you suggesting I was scum before roles were pmed out??? That vote was also **NOT PRO-TOWN** Did you just edit a post as well, something we all agreed to not do? NOT PRO-TOWN **Vote Peeker** ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1238 "2009-05-14T14:48:14Z")
My entire above post(#1237) was directed toward Peeker, by the way…who I did not directly name until the vote. My bad! ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1239 "2009-05-14T14:49:03Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > peeker, just so you know, the whole ostracize vs. execute thing is gone now. We just lynch normally. This is actually entertaining 🙂 only about 1000 posts to go, peeker. Might want to find the charger for the blackberry ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1240 "2009-05-14T15:03:51Z")
Post 304 > [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > **Vote to Ostracize Spurious George** > > because of his vote to execute. My reasoning for being against execution has already been explained. Really. That’s all? Oh FCS. Methinks that this novel will get darker in the days to come. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=61) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=63)