# The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271 "2009-04-24T22:16:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 66
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1301 "2009-05-15T02:34:05Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > **Why is Angel Talking in Chinese?** Post 1109 > [@Angel](#): > > God has transmitted my another information. Because the way my sin has been cleaned, I have the contribution restriction today. Must translate possesses my post to become Chinese from English then to become English from Chinese. I affirmed that the hope clean is a pleasure! Oh, this is interesting, I accidentally posted the word wall to enter the translator from another competition. ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1302 "2009-05-15T02:39:51Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > That’s what it sounds like to me, until we figure out what’s going on. > Vote Angel > > Sorry, Angel, but at the moment I’m confused. If you have, as Ed suggests, a sinner wincon, you’ve got my vote. I know your text is garbled, so I’m happy to unvote you, if you don’t. > > Here some questions for you to quite an answer if it help. > > Are you currently sinfected? > > Do you currently have a sinner wincon? > > Will you ever have a town wincon? > > Do you currently have a town wincon? > > Where you planning to remain a sinner? > > Did you lie to us about PM Pede to say you were planning to pray? 1. No. 2. No. 3. Yes. 4. Yes. 5. Yes, until I had discovered Paulo planned washes me. (:smack:) 6. Yes. ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1303 "2009-05-15T02:45:22Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > 1. No. > > 2. No. > > 3. Yes. > > 4. Yes. > > 5. Yes, until I had discovered Paulo planned washes me. (:smack:) > > 6. Yes. 1. NETA: Does not learn other criminal’s name to cause me is also the change of mind. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1304 "2009-05-15T02:47:30Z")
So, Angel did lie, and her language is going to remain this way, correct? Or am I fishing too much here? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1305 "2009-05-15T02:50:04Z")
Angel, is there any way that we can know that you are pure now? You claim Paul washed you last Night, but he also got killed last Night. We all knew that the plan was for Paul to disinfect you, but we don’t have any way of knowing if the NK order went before the disinfect order. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1306 "2009-05-15T02:51:05Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > So, Angel did lie, and her language is going to remain this way, correct? > > Or am I fishing too much here? Assuming she’s telling the truth, I was under the impression (but I’m not sure why, did she mention it?) that the post restriction is only for toDay. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1307 "2009-05-15T02:55:21Z")
Yup she said “I have the contribution restriction today” ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1308 "2009-05-15T02:59:44Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Assuming she’s telling the truth, I was under the impression (but I’m not sure why, did she mention it?) that the post restriction is only for toDay. Yes. ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1309 "2009-05-15T03:00:58Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Angel, is there any way that we can know that you are pure now? You claim Paul washed you last Night, but he also got killed last Night. We all knew that the plan was for Paul to disinfect you, but we don’t have any way of knowing if the NK order went before the disinfect order. I may announce my private news? ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1310 "2009-05-15T03:01:30Z")
This is an interesting situation - **Angel** , it seems, was going to jump ship to the Sinners. But then paul stepped in, apparently. If paul didn’t, that means that the reason for speaking Chinglish is wrong and Angel is doing it for the fun of it. I’m going to believe that Angel was cleansed by paul before he was NK’d. Whether Angel is Town or Blackheart, well, that is another question. ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1311 "2009-05-15T03:01:59Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > I may announce my private news? 1. " pedescribe pedescribe is online now Guest Join Date: Mar 2008 Last night You were forcefully purged of the seed of sin. You have another choice, now. You may go back to your former win con as a townie, or stay with the sinners, and hope you are reinfected. " ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1312 "2009-05-15T03:03:02Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > 1. " pedescribe pedescribe is online now > Guest > > Join Date: Mar 2008 > Last night > You were forcefully purged of the seed of sin. You have another choice, now. You may go back to your former win con as a townie, or stay with the sinners, and hope you are reinfected. " 1. " AngeloftheNorth AngeloftheNorth is online now Guest Join Date: Apr 2009 Re: Last night Quote: Originally Posted by pedescribe You were forcefully purged of the seed of sin. You have another choice, now. You may go back to your former win con as a townie, or stay with the sinners, and hope you are reinfected. Okay, I’m going back to my former win con as a townie. Thank you! Forward Message" ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1313 "2009-05-15T03:10:29Z")
I don’t get that. Since the beginning I’ve not really understood the stuff about being town but having the sinner wincon et al. But I really don’t get why if you chose to remain a sinner that you would HOPE to get reinfected. Would getting reinfected even do anything if you stay with the sinners? ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1314 "2009-05-15T03:12:26Z")
Wait, what? Angel, are you saying that the game mechanics suggest that a person can be purged of Sin, become a Townie, but retain the Sinners wincon? Wouldn’t that mean the Sinners can keep pumping out Godfathers, at least in theory? I am sceptical. **Vote Angel** ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1315 "2009-05-15T03:19:52Z")
> [@AllWalker](#): > > Wait, what? > > Angel, are you saying that the game mechanics suggest that a person can be purged of Sin, become a Townie, but retain the Sinners wincon? Wouldn’t that mean the Sinners can keep pumping out Godfathers, at least in theory? > > I am sceptical. > > **Vote Angel** Ped said that in already here. **Vote AllWalker** ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1316 "2009-05-15T03:21:33Z")
No. New criminal I have not been able to infect. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1317 "2009-05-15T03:22:38Z")
Omgus ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1318 "2009-05-15T03:23:45Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > No. New criminal I have not been able to infect. Are you sure you’re not translating that to Yoda? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1319 "2009-05-15T03:31:49Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I don’t get that. Since the beginning I’ve not really understood the stuff about being town but having the sinner wincon et al. > But I really don’t get why if you chose to remain a sinner that you would HOPE to get reinfected. Would getting reinfected even do anything if you stay with the sinners? You can be: [ol] [li]Blackheart[/li][li]Sinner[/li][li]Town[/li][/ol] You NEVER change what you are. Never ever ever ever If you are Blackheart, you win: [ol] [li]When Blackhearts outnumber non-Blackhearts[/li][/ol] If you are Sinner, you win when: [ol] [li]Everyone alive is Sinfected[/li][/ol] If you are Town, you win when [ol] [li]All Sinners, Blackhearts and PFKs (if any) are dead[/li][li]UNLESS, you’ve chosen to win with the Sinners after being Sinfected, in which case you win when Everyone alive is Sinfected[/li][/ol] So, Town MAY change their win condition. No one else may. So, in the end, you can BE town, but win with the Sinners. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1320 "2009-05-15T03:34:40Z")
That, I guess, sort of makes sense. But, if you are town, with sinner wincon, you are effectively a sinner, right? I mean, even if you are town by name, if you win with the sinners you are going to try to get rid of town and blackhearts, right? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=65) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=67)