# The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271 "2009-04-24T22:16:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 71
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1401 "2009-05-17T02:59:07Z")
What happens if more than 2 players tie in the vote? * * * And \*\* Vote Count?\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1402 "2009-05-17T03:04:49Z")
pedescribe breaks ties in this game by choosing one of the vote leaders at random. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1403 "2009-05-17T03:15:06Z")
[Post 66](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11086263&postcount=66) Fluff as game just begins [Post 71](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11086468&postcount=71) More game beginning fluff [Post 88](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11086777&postcount=88)Stating that we vote to O or E and also who to lynch. [Post 90](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11086798&postcount=90)Responding to Joey noticing no editing restriction. Says he assumes no editing. [Post 96](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11086927&postcount=96)Respong to Freuding Slip. FS says no one will want to vote since voting for an execution will result in Sinification. Mahaloth wonders about the downside to Ostracization [Post 107](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11087155&postcount=107)Recommends not editing posts _(This occurs before the infamous Angel/Newpaul post edit.)_ Mahaloth also repeats his questions as to the downside to Ostracization [Post 118](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11087970&postcount=118)Recommends Ostracization early on to prevent the spread of Sin [Post 120](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11088070&postcount=120)Clarification on the Sinners being able to Sinfect someone at Night. [Post 139](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11089703&postcount=139)Points out that I had 2 errors in my vote for Angel/Newpaul for the editing [Post 143](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11089830&postcount=143)Talking with meeko about the end of Day and how slow the Days move early on [Post 156](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11090315&postcount=156)Points out a few people who aren’t posting much. Recommends a Lynch the Lurker approach for Day 1 [Comments with Spurious about 'being on the list of low posters [URL=“[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11090748&postcount=167](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11090748&postcount=167)”]Post 167]([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11090709&postcount=164](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11090709&postcount=164)) Post 164Votes Spurious for his comment on Mahaloth’s list as well as Spurious’ vote to exectue Angle/Newpaul for no reason [Post 169](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11090759&postcount=169)Fluff [Post 172](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11090835&postcount=172)Replies to Justin who was responding to being identified as a low poster [Post 197](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11091965&postcount=197)Reiterates his opinion that Ostacization is preferred to Execution at this point. [Post 203](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11092242&postcount=203)Asks Meeko his opinion on O vs E [Post 204](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11092310&postcount=204)Clarifying his coding error in post 203 _(without editing)_:smack: [Post 213](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11092563&postcount=213)Reiterates his support for lynch the lurker and also points out his reasons for voting Spurious [Post 216](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11092721&postcount=216)Has talked himself into voting for a lurker. He unvotes Spurious and votes for Captain [Post 219](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11093210&postcount=219)Defends himself from Thing Fish’s questions. Thing fish had thought it somewhat scummy that Mahalooth unvoted Spurious when Spurious took a good lead and cast a 1 off vote for Captain. Here is Mahaloth’s response: > [@Mahaloth](#): > > Yes, I thought about if I should change my vote and ultimately, it just came down to the fact that I think lynching the guy with Zero Posts is a pretty good way to vote on Day One, as we are taking a stab in the dark. > > Is Spurious comfotably in the lead with 18 people in the game and about 7-8 votes? I still think voting for the guy who hasn’t posted in the game yet might be the most popular idea. > > 1. The reason I said, “It’s cool” in post 164(not 162) was because I was trying to be nice. I changed my mind because I realized he had executed someone when I really think we should ostracize people. > > 2. You do know that I was talking about “lynch the lurker” for quite a while as my top choice, before I voted to ostracize Spurious. I admitted that I talked myself back to that theory when I lynched Captain Pinkies. > > As for Captain Pinkies and Angel of the North, it’s basically 0 posts for Captain Pinkies(who only posted to sign up) and 3 posts for Angel(excluding his original sign up). > > I actually am not against voting Angel, either, as he is quite low in participation. I just chose the guy with zero posts vs. 3. > > 1. By the way, the odds are that Spurious, if killed/ostracized, will show up town. If there are 4 scum, there are 14 townies. We are voting with nearly zero info., right? > > Anyway, what do other people think about voting for the lurker? [Post 260](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11095627&postcount=260)Defends Angle/Newpaul from my vote. He says I’m pushing this post editing issue to hard by sayigng it’s possible that Angel/Newpaul wanted to set a precedent. [Post 289](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11096640&postcount=289)Asks for a vote update [Post 296](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11096893&postcount=296)Out of game [Post 311](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11097937&postcount=311)Some comments on the O vs E process [Post 313](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11097944&postcount=313)Comments on meeko asking if one can vote for oneself [Post 317](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11097985&postcount=317)ditto [Post 330](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11098078&postcount=330)Out of Game [Post 332](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11098084&postcount=332)Out of Game [Post 354](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11098801&postcount=354)Comments about the forbidden thread [Post 355](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11098808&postcount=355)Ditto [Post 374](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11099372&postcount=374)Agrees with Joey on Ostracization > [@Joey](#): > > From what I can tell the ONLY differnce between execution and ostracization (As far as the lynchee is concerned), is that when someone is ostracized they can use their power role that night\* after that they are dead and gone. [Post 383](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11099979&postcount=383)Replies to me about keeping an open mind regarding the effects of Ostracization [Post 405](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11101036&postcount=405)Suggests people do post analysis of themselves and others as the Days go on. [Post 416](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11101384&postcount=416)Out of Game End of Day 1 [Post 417](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11101387&postcount=417)Ditto [Post 420](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11101425&postcount=420)Asks if Night strategy is allowed [Post 430](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11101738&postcount=430)Comment about the result of the Ostracization of George [Post 441](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11102054&postcount=441)Trying to clarify things for Meeko [Post 453](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11102446&postcount=453)Ditto [Post 463](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11104282&postcount=463)Fluff [Post 486](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11106356&postcount=486)Defends himself from Thing Fish. TF was accusing him of flip-flopping on the editing thing. Mahaloth had initially claimed to be against editing, but then defended the votes against Angel/Newpaul who edited. He stated he’d vote for any editors at this point. [Post 495](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11107192&postcount=495)Says he’s not a Sinner _(gee thanks)_ Asks if Sinners can get someone through a Night Action. _This is interesting._ Here is what Mahaloth says now: > [@Mahaloth](#): > > am not a sinner, so I have no insight into how their “recruitment” works. Where in Ped’s description of the game rules did you think Ped suggested some form of night-time recruitment by the Sinners? > > Please tell me if I’m wrong, but in terms of written rules, I have only read that they gain sinners by “capturing” the last person who votes for a successful execution. > > Am I wrong about my basic understanding of that? Here is what Nahaloth said in post 120 > [@Mahaloth](#): > > So two people can get the Seed of Sin a Day/Night? One from a kill and one from the standard night-time action of the sinners. > > Yeesh, so one of us gets killed by the blackheart scums and another one of us gets sinified every night. - Did he suddenly forget about this?\* [Post 497](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11107299&postcount=497)Thanks Allwalker for clarifying his stance on Sinner recruitment. Allwalker also had Mahaloth’s post 120 in his response, but didn’t seem to notice the contradiction. End of Night 1 [Post 508](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11107901&postcount=508)Apologizes to Telcontar for his death. [Post 516](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11107970&postcount=516)Asks about Telcontar being an Aegis and a purger [Post 524](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11108131&postcount=524)Clarifying Day end time for Meeko [Post 527](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11108138&postcount=527)Pondering what Telcontar may have done the previous Night [Post 534](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11108252&postcount=534)Wonders if a protected person knew that they were protected. \*(this isn’t the first time he’s mentioned this, and it almost seems to be a little bit of fishing) \* [Post 543](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11109067&postcount=543)Saying Meeko’s idea that Ostracization must help Blackhearts is a stretch. Mahaloth supports Ostracization becuase no one was Sinfected and Spurious is gone. [Post 547](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11109124&postcount=547)Clarifies that he meant that no one was Sinfected by voting for execution. [Post 548](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11109124&postcount=548)retracts Post 547 [Post 562](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11109384&postcount=562)Tries to calm Meeko down [Post 581](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11110910&postcount=581)More pondering about Telcontar [Post 584](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11111004&postcount=584)Trying to answer questions for Meeko [Post 586](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11111034&postcount=586)Fluff [Post 594](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11111084&postcount=594)Fluff [Post 602](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11111197&postcount=602)Asks if we just lynch now after the voice of God forbid us from executing. [Post 635](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11112366&postcount=635)Asks Angel/Newpaul to post the PM about being sinfected. [Post 636](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11112413&postcount=636)Asks for a current player list [Post 663](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11113372&postcount=663)Comments on Nanook’s lurking [Post 671](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11113726&postcount=671)Wants to think about lynch the lurker [Post 677](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11113851&postcount=677)Lists pros and cons re: lynch the lurker [Post 684](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11114142&postcount=684)Tells Freud/peeker that we can only lynch now. [Post 764](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11114912&postcount=764)His comments on paul’s roleclaim > [@Mahaloth](#): > > I walk away for a few hours and everything goes berserk? Yeesh! > > I’ve read and re-read everything since around 5 pm, when I left and I am understanding the following. Please tell me where I’m wrong. > > 1. Ped _(sic, I think he meant paul)_ revealed his alleged role PM, which should reveal why he was doing a PM to Ped last Night(when he commented on the full inbox). > > 2. If he’s telling the truth, he’s basically a Watcher/Killer, where he had to choose one of those actions. He could watch someone at the Night and Kill someone in the Day. He could also swap people’s targets or something. > > 3. It does not sound like he had to choose one or the other role per Day/Night? > > 4. Two of his powers infect with the Seed of Sin…which is rather weird. > > 5. He had a minor flip-out over everyone’s misunderstanding…which was fun to read. > > It seems weird that he could sinfect someone with two of his powers(killing and swapping). I almost have a hard time believing this part of his role…but I do for some reason. > > I’m not ready to vote for him, because I kind of half believe his claim and don’t want to kill another townie. I mean, he’s dangerous in some way, but not as bad as some people are making him out to be. > > Anyone who voted for him want to explain to me(and the other townies) the advantage of taking out paul? Is it the sinfection possibilities? Is it that you don’t believe the claim itself? Is it that he can kill during the Day? Is it that you don’t like him personally? [Post 786](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11115279&postcount=786)This is one of the posts that made me think Mahaloth was ‘licking meeko’s balls’ [Post 791](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11115311&postcount=791)Unimportant [Post 796](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11115385&postcount=796)Points out that Nanook and Captain are still AWOL. Tells Town we have 2 choices, lynch paul or lynch a lurker. Agress that lynching paul is wise _(though in post 764, he was against a lynch of paul.)_ Votes for paul [Post 802](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11115418&postcount=802)Back to licking meeko’s balls [Post 820](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11116266&postcount=820)States support for lynching Nanook, but keeps his vote on paul [Post 857](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11117955&postcount=857)Notices Nanook joined, wonders where Captain is [Post 865](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11118158&postcount=865)Questions me about the possibility of a Sinner’s thread [Post 878](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11118313&postcount=878)Agrees with me about the liklihood of a Sinner’s thread. Wonders how many Sinners may have started in the game 50 more posts in the next message. Exciting isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1404 "2009-05-17T04:20:01Z")
[Post 908](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11118833&postcount=908)Tells Thing Fish that ped wants use to vote in purple to remove people from the game for low participation [Post 910](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11119035&postcount=910)Asks if we want to replace Captain. Comments on Naoonk’s claim of low post count/high content [Post 912](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11119227&postcount=912)Votes to replace Captain [Post 915](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11119281&postcount=915)Tells meeko that he can still vote for Nanook while voting to replace Captain [Post 917](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11119295&postcount=917)Ditto [Post 920](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11119343&postcount=920)Asks Rysto what he wants to do in regards to Captain [Post 929](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11120132&postcount=929)Promises a review of Rysto [Post 930](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11120178&postcount=930)Mahaloth’s conclusions about Rysto: He posts content and he’s not appearing Scummy [Post 936](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11120501&postcount=936)Wants to have a system of figuring out who analyzes whom at some point. [Post 937](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11120507&postcount=937)Functions as Meeko’s timekeeper again [Post 940](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11120561&postcount=940)Fluff [Post 949](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11121276&postcount=949)More comments on assigning analyzations [Post 987](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11123168&postcount=987)Agrees with Rysto that Captains late return doesn’t excuse his absence [Post 1059](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11126004&postcount=1059)Defends himself from Meeko’s accusations. Meeko had accused him of being a bandwagon voter _(meeko appeared to have not done so)_ and Meeko had also accused him of using their friendship to avoid suspicion _(???)_ End of Day 2 [Post 1062](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11126545&postcount=1062)Asks for a final Day 2 post count [Post 1064](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11126597&postcount=1064)Unimportant [Post 1066](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11126782&postcount=1066)Fluff with Meeko [Post 1078](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11127627&postcount=1078)Encourages Paul to dis-sinfect Angel [Post 1079](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11127727&postcount=1079)Agrees that the people who didn’t vote are not helping out End of Night 2 [Post 1090](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11132272&postcount=1090)Asks if paul’s death means he was telling teh truth \*(As an aside, pedescribe has confirmed that paul was telling the truth. Had paul lied, he would not have been able to sub in for Angel because he would have had knowledge that Angel shouldn’t have and other players didn’t have) \* [Post 1093](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11132379&postcount=1093)Claimns his vote was bought [Post 1120](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11133559&postcount=1122)Still wonders if paul was honest. Also wonders is Special and Meeko are Scum Masons [Post 1129](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11134380&postcount=1129)1. Thinks Angel is asking anyone ensinned to come forward. 2. Denies being ensinned 3. Asks if anyone esle wishes to comment 4. Reminds us he cannot vote. [Post 1133](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11134438&postcount=1133)Fluff [Post 1136](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11134454&postcount=1136)Comments about Angel’s post restriction [Post 1147](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11134596&postcount=1147)Clarifies that he thought Meeko and Special might both be mason traitors. [Post 1150](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11134738&postcount=1150)_Read this one_Mahaloth claims that he wishes he never voted for Spurious. He also points out that he voted for Captain. He then says he didn’t believe paul, that’s why he voted for him, but that captain was the better lynch. Ends by asking if we still have lurkers. _This pings me a bit. He got off the lynch of a Townie and through a one off vote on a Sinner. He then voted for someone who claimed to be very anti-sinner (paul) instead of voting for a Sinner (captain) who he claims was a better lynch. Perhaps his Day 1 vote was for Town cred in case Captain got killed?_ [Post 1187](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11137400&postcount=1187)More of the same [Post 1206](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11138214&postcount=1206)Agrees with me that there are probably more than 1 Sinner [Post 1207](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11138232&postcount=1207)Asks Angel to clarify the vote for Rysto [Post 1228](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11139526&postcount=1228)Out of Game [Post 1230](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11139653&postcount=1230)Unimportant [Post 1237](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11139833&postcount=1237)Votes Peeker over the editing thing [Post 1238](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11139837&postcount=1238)NETA [Post 1247](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11140154&postcount=1247)Comments on Nanook saying Mahaloth over reacted [Post 1248](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11140171&postcount=1248)Defends his vote for peeker(Freudian) [Post 1257](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11140544&postcount=1257)Unvoted peeker because his vote was bought _(does he not get a posting restriction?)_ [Post 1273](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11141176&postcount=1273)Wonders why peeker called Meeko a fisher [Post 1289](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11141789&postcount=1289)Thinks Angel is trying to tell us that she posted in the Forbidden thread [Post 1293](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11142009&postcount=1293)Asks Angel if she lied about praying [Post 1296](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11142245&postcount=1296)Asks Meeko for reasons Meeko is voting for Chronos [Post 1333](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11143096&postcount=1333)Thanks me for reminding everyone that Blackhearts cannot change their won condition [Post 1336](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11143605&postcount=1336)Indicates that if he could vote, he would be voting for Angel, though he doesn’t say why. [Post 1339](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11143821&postcount=1339)Asks for a vote count [Post 1347](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11144317&postcount=1347)Unimportant [Post 1374](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11147061&postcount=1374)Tries to calm meeko down [Post 1382](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11147237&postcount=1382)Ditto [Post 1386](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11147275&postcount=1386)Fluff [Post 1397](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11148604&postcount=1397)Comments that he still hasn’t gotten instructions on who to vote for ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1405 "2009-05-17T04:38:52Z")
I don’t see a direction this is going in Ed. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1406 "2009-05-17T06:03:30Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > [Post 747:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11114706&postcount=747)I don’t see anything that indicates that “us” means “blackhearts”, there. And posts [690](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11114193&postcount=690) and [699](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11114256&postcount=699) are by **special ed** , not **Freudian Slit** … Is it really evidence against someone to just find posts where others were criticizing them? And for that matter, if **Freudian** ’s behaviour back then was so scummy, why didn’t you say anything at the time? Did you skim over it and not notice it, or something? Um, yeah, in retrospect, I’m not clear what I was on about with post 747. But as I said, I wasn’t trying to make a case in that post, just calling attention to the fact that I felt there was a case to be made. Maybe, as Rysto said, it looked smudgy to do it that way, but it would have been worse to just say “Hey, I think peeker’s scum and I’ll tell you why later?”, no? Maybe it would have been wisest to say nothing for the time, but I knew I wouldn’t be around again until late tonight and I didn’t want to just vanish entirely for over two days. WRT to your smudgy rhetorical question at the end, obviously “skimming” has a pejorative tone that I wouldn’t want to claim, but yes, I did a reread (with heightened suspicion of the three non-me paul voters) and found some stuff that I didn’t notice the first time. If that’s a scumtell in your world, then vote away. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1407 "2009-05-17T06:13:38Z")
> [@](#): > > WRT to your smudgy rhetorical question at the end, obviously “skimming” has a pejorative tone that I wouldn’t want to claim, but yes, I did a reread (with heightened suspicion of the three non-me paul voters) and found some stuff that I didn’t notice the first time. If that’s a scumtell in your world, then vote away. I chose that word because, so far as I could tell, your criticism of **Freudian Slit** was mostly based on her alleged skimming, which makes it seem rather odd that you’d be doing the same thing. Bah, I’m feeling paranoid right now… I should probably just go to bed and take another look tomorrow morning. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1408 "2009-05-17T06:15:32Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > Unless paul completely lied to us, I don’t see how Angel can still be impure, so my vote will not be going her way toDay. > > I’m going to **vote Thing Fish**. A re-read reminded me of something that got lost in the paul/meeko/special ed mess in Day Two: [this post.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11101290&postcount=410) > This was posted just before end of the Day. As I said at the time, this reads like scum gloating to me. Thing Fish being so certain that Spurious was going to turn up Town is another point against him, because scum will have a much better idea who is Town. Furthermore, it’s been my experience that scum tend to assume that anybody not aligned with them is Town, even if they know that there are third party roles in the game. This was a big factor in third parties winning Apocalypse and especially Gastard. Discussion of post 747 snipped because I just addressed it. First paragraph: What? Why would you vote or not vote for someone based on whether they have the Seed of Sin at some particular moment? If they are Town, they can just pray to remove it. Besides, Angel’s vote for paul tells me she is almost certainly not a Sinner, but that doesn’t mean she can’t be a Blackheart. Second paragraph: I’m just going to refer you what I said (post 468) the last time you tried to smudge me about this: \*Anyway, if anyone is thinking that was scum gloating on my part, I would ask you to remember that I was publicly opposed to the Spurious lynch back when he only had four votes. \* You’re making no sense, **Rysto**. I will keep my vote where it is because I suspect (although I have no comprehensive data on this point) that OMGUS votes made while drinking at 1:15 am tend to not have a pro-Town effect, but…wow. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1409 "2009-05-17T13:38:49Z")
Hi, guys, I’m just checking in briefly. I got my “vote” pm regarding my bought vote. **This is a bought vote.** I’ll paste it below: " pedescribe pedescribe is offline Guest Join Date: Mar 2008 You are voting… for Angelpaul. " So, I **vote Angelpaul** ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1410 "2009-05-17T14:20:48Z")
AngeloftheNorth (5): Joey P, Allwalker, Nanook, Meeko, Mahaloth TF (1): Rysto Nanook of the North (1): Chronos Allwalker (1) AngeloftheNorth Peekercpa (1): TF ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1411 "2009-05-17T14:35:48Z")
Pede, could we get an updated player list at some point? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1412 "2009-05-17T14:43:57Z")
**Vote Peekercpa** It’s not really for anything Peekercpa did but more how Freudian Slit was acting. She didn’t seem to want to participate. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1413 "2009-05-17T14:53:57Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > I don’t see a direction this is going in Ed. I wasn’t really trying to go in a direction. I just wanted to take a look at someone. I also didn’t want to post my conclusions until after people had a chance to read it. My conclusion is: While Mahaloth has done some things that seem slightly suspicious, I see no really strong things against him here. If I had to guess, I’d say it’s probable he’s Town, but I’m still slightly suspicious. The voting seems a bit odd as does the forgetting that Sinners can Sinfect at Night (was that fake ignorance, something anti-Town players do sometimes?) ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1414 "2009-05-17T15:57:36Z")
\*\*Re: vote count Did I miss \*\*peeker **unvoting Mahaloth?** Depending on whether or not he did, we have either four or five nonvoters. Lame. I have no comments for the public regarding my opinion of **paulwhowasanAngelandwillshortlybeaghostagain’s** alignment at this time.😛 (die scum die!) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1415 "2009-05-17T16:02:40Z")
Look, a miracle! The Sun is standing still in the sky, instead of setting! Surely, this must be a sign from God. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1416 "2009-05-17T16:13:03Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Look, a miracle! The Sun is standing still in the sky, instead of setting! Surely, this must be a sign from God. It must be the Equinox, or something. Where is an egg I can balance end on ? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1417 "2009-05-17T16:14:31Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > \*\*Re: vote count > > Did I miss \*\*peeker **unvoting Mahaloth?** > > Depending on whether or not he did, we have either four or five nonvoters. Lame. > > [/SIZE] Peeker unvoted me when he tried to split his vote into four parts…which was weird. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1418 "2009-05-17T16:17:17Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Peeker unvoted me when he tried to split his vote into four parts…which was weird. But it could add yet another element of strange into the game, and we’d get to see how good Pede is with fractions. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1419 "2009-05-17T16:18:43Z")
NETA, I do find it interesting that with all the voting and unvoting he did, he never did register a vote. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1420 "2009-05-17T16:19:15Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > But it could add yet another element of strange into the game, and we’d get to see how good Pede is with fractions. Asking to vote for myself doesn’t seem as bad anymore. At least, that was with still an integer. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=70) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=72)