# The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271 "2009-04-24T22:16:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 72
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1421 "2009-05-17T16:53:07Z")
Bah, that’s nothing. How about some imaginary votes? ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1422 "2009-05-17T17:02:58Z")
Angelpaul (5): Joey P, Allwalker, Nanook, Meeko, Mahaloth Peekercpa (1): Inner Stickler TF (1): Rysto Nanook of the North (1): Chronos Allwalker (1) Angelpaul Peekercpa (1): TF > [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > \*\*Re: vote count > > Did I miss \*\*peeker **unvoting Mahaloth?** > > Depending on whether or not he did, we have either four or five nonvoters. Lame. > > I have no comments for the public regarding my opinion of **paulwhowasanAngelandwillshortlybeaghostagain’s** alignment at this time.😛 (die scum die!) He…uh…tried to split his vote in four (something he could have done with Borda!), which is not allowed. But he unvoted before that, so I counted the unvote. Anyway: As the discussion came to a close, the sun shuddered and jerked, and stood in the sky! The townspeople rejoiced, as this was clearly a blessing from God! Everyone knew demons’ powers grew in the night, so perhaps it would remain perpetual day, and the evil ones would be powerless. But it was not to be. The sun stood poised on the horizon for but an hour, after which it dropped into a sunset. The town forced AngelpaulwhowasfromaNorthernGhost, still loudly protesting in broken English, out of the town. The fence glowed. This man was pure of heart. Angelpaul, an Ordinary Puritan, is dead. It is night. Day will start at 1:00 PM EST on Tuesday. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1423 "2009-05-17T17:08:22Z")
Player List: Alive: 1. Allwalker 2. BillMC 3. Chronos 4. [del]Freudian Slit[/del] Peekercpa 5. [del]GuyIncognitto[/del] Inner Stickler 6. Joey P. 7. [del]Justin Credible[/del] Bear\_Nenno 8. Mahaloth 9. Meeko 10. Nanook 11. [del]Sir Dirx[/del] Rysto 12. Special Ed. 13. Thing Fish Dead: 2. [del]AngeloftheNorth[/del] paulwhoisaghost–Ordinary Puritan 4. Captain Pinkies–Hester Prynne (Sinner) 8. [del]Idle Thoughts[/del] paulwhoisaghost–Traveling Preacher (Town Minion Master) 16. Spurious George–Ordinary Puritan 17. Telcontar–Rev. Wilson (Aegis/Purger) ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1424 "2009-05-17T17:23:06Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Bah, that’s nothing. How about some imaginary votes? That’s too irrational. Get Real. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1425 "2009-05-17T17:33:30Z")
Why are so few people voting? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1426 "2009-05-17T17:39:47Z")
[Post 114](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11087512&postcount=114) Introduction. Opinion that Execution is good for Scum, Ostracizing if we aren’t sure. [Post 122](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11088196&postcount=122)Here’s the flow of this response: > [@Thing Fish](#): > > Ped, am I correct in assuming that ostracized players may use their night action the night after being ostracized, but are then totally out of the game? > [@pedescribe](#): > > Depending. > [@BillMc](#): > > Can you give us some examples? I hate to play guess the rules > [@Allwalker](#): > > I assume it would vary from power to power. Since we, as a collective, don’t know any of the powers, “depends” makes sense. [Post 166](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11090729&postcount=166)Agrees with Chronos that the first vote is a wild guess. Votes to Ostracize Spurious with no reason [Post 168](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11090756&postcount=168)Comments on motivation for voting to execute [Post 186](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11091142&postcount=186)Wondering what Meeko means _(Meeko had voted to execute Chronos but maybe wanted him investigated)_ [Post 239](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11093994&postcount=239)Defends votes for Spurious. Lists pros for Ostracizing and Executing [Post 241](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11094161&postcount=241)Agrees with me that using our brains is more important than having power roles. [Post 253](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11094725&postcount=253)Replies to paul, who had dropped a breadcrumb about being able to cancel out Sinfection. In regards to Spurious voting to execute. [Post 259](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11095538&postcount=259) In response to Angel’s edit, encourages others to not edit. _(In response to Freduian saying it was no big deal)_ [Post 307](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11097895&postcount=307)Wonders if Captains vote for SPurious was Ostracization or Execution [Post 318](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11098004&postcount=318) Encourages Ostracization to see what happens. [Post 397](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11100602&postcount=397)More on the O vs E [Post 402](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11100804&postcount=402) Comments on the signal to noise as being maybe a little helpful, but not conclusive in it’s own. [Post 403](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11100807&postcount=403)Comments on paul saying he’s going to vote to execute. _(paul had fingered Chronos and Rysto as being suspicious enough to warrant such a vote)_ [Post 494](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11102633&postcount=454)Wonders if it’s better not not Night Strategize, but is leaning toward it being a good thing [Post 458](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11102879&postcount=458)More on Night Strategery [Post 459](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11102882&postcount=459)NETA [Post 489](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11106792&postcount=489)More comments on O vs E and what Night Actions might mean for someone who is Ostracized [Post 492](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11106949&postcount=492)Even more on the Ostracization debate with Bill. Admits that if it looks bleak for Town, he’d try to convert to the Sinners. [Post 494](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11106966&postcount=494)More on Ostracization, this time with Meeko [Post 496](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11107248&postcount=496)MOre on Ostracization with Mahaloth End of Night 1 [Comments on Telcontar’s death [URL=“[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11111762&postcount=628](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11111762&postcount=628)”]Post 628]([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11110251&postcount=580](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11110251&postcount=580)) Post 580Comments about the demise of O vs E. Says he’ll miss it. _(Yes, it’s about all you’ve talked about)_ [Post 640](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11112511&postcount=640)Wonders why paul says 2 people were Sinfected [Post 776](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11115096&postcount=776)Thinks paul is Town. Wonders what Meeko means _(don’t we all?)_ [Post 807](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11115756&postcount=807)Wants to keep paul alive (this screams Sinner to me. Paul has an easy way to Sinfect AND convert and Allwalker hints at that.) Vote Nanook for lurking. [Post 817](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11115862&postcount=817)Game play suggestion to Meeko [Post 819](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11116050&postcount=819)Comments with Meeko about Chronos experience [Post 922](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11119447&postcount=922)Unvotes Nanook because he showed up. Votes to replace Captain [Post 926](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11119511&postcount=926)Reposts player list [Post 931](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11120358&postcount=931)Comments on Freudian (peeker) cites low post count, weak vote for Chronos Day 1, and vote agains paul Day 2 [Post 965](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11122242&postcount=965)Points out Joey’s weak vote on Day 1 for Spurious [Post 967](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11122364&postcount=967)Comments that he can’t get a read on Thing Fish [Post 979](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11122782&postcount=979)Explains to Meeko why Scum can’t just run the table voting for the lynches [Post 988](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11123182&postcount=988)Votes for Joey, though I’m not sure I understand the reason. Read it yourself and see if it makes sense [Post 1043](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11125422&postcount=1043)Unvotes Joey, Votes Captain to try to save Paul _(this strikes me as very not pro-Sinner unless it was a bus to bring in a more powerful paul. Imagine his powers after being recruited to the Sinners)_ End of Day 2 [Post 1067](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11126865&postcount=1067)Thankful that we lynched Captain instead of paul [Post 1077](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11127339&postcount=1077)Fluff [Post 1081](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11128013&postcount=1081)Comments to Joey about voting. [Post 1128](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11134308&postcount=1128)laughs at Angle’s post restriction. Thinks Day 2 was good. [Post 1154](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11134834&postcount=1154)Reviewed Inner Stickler, has no conclusive results. Tends to believe Meeko and Special are Masons. [Post 1160](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11135215&postcount=1160)Points out that it would have been stupid for Meeko and Special to claim Mason with the risk of real masons outing them [Post 1224](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11139431&postcount=1224)Peeker (replacing Freudian) comments that Chronos Day 1 suggestion that we all work toward a Sinner win was the most anti-Town thing ever. Allwalker points out that it had pro-Town points too, as it would have forced the cum to claim [Post 1310](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11142375&postcount=1310)Comments about Angel’s revelation that she wasn’t going to pray, and how it somewhat confirms paul’s role claim [Post 1314](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11142412&postcount=1314)Votes for Angel, because she can retain teh Sinner’s wincon even if purified. [Post 1329](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11142754&postcount=1329)Comments on Angel’s OMGUS vote of him [Post 1330](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11142768&postcount=1330)Comments on Angel. Why did she tell people she was Sinfected if she was converting? Why did she admit to lying? [Post 1351](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11145934&postcount=1351)Ditto [Post 1354](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11146135&postcount=1354)Stands with his vote against Angel/Newpaul. Comments on Chronos vote of Nanook for stubborn lurking. _(what’s interesting here is that if Allwalker is a Sinner, he KNOWS that Angel is a safe kill as she’s no longer Sinfected. But, it also appeared she wants to be sinfected, hence her claims of lying.)_ [Post 1373](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11146560&postcount=1373)Tries to get Meeko to stop complaining. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1427 "2009-05-17T17:42:39Z")
I see I missed the end of the Day. I had started my analysis at 8AM, but real life interfered and I’ve been running children around since then. I’ll leave time for comments about my analysis of Allwalker before I comment myself. And, I suppose, I’ll start looking at someone else. It’s tedious, but hopefully it will be fruitful at some point. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1428 "2009-05-17T18:29:51Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > And, I suppose, I’ll start looking at someone else. It’s tedious, but hopefully it will be fruitful at some point. Well, it only works on people who know what they are doing, and beyond that, are hiding what it is they are doing. Once you find that person, you need to find where they not as well hidden as in other posts. That being said, Don’t look at me. 1. I have no clue what it is I am doing. 2. I have already claimed 3. You, above all other people would know that. Now, watch everyone else start looking at me here, simply because I say don’t look at me. But then again, these kinda statements make my previous rants seem to disappear. I’m going to stop now, while I still can, on my own terms. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1429 "2009-05-17T18:32:17Z")
NETA : The only common ground that Haggle and Mafia shares is that of the Double Effect. Yeah, I’m back in this. Someone, do something scummy. I need something to attack now. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1430 "2009-05-17T18:34:04Z")
NETA Because it is a different line of thought: **What Becomes of BillMC ?** I mean, I guess I am ok either way, but Bill himself has questioned if he should stay or not. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1431 "2009-05-17T19:00:37Z")
> [@](#): > > Post 988Votes for Joey, though I’m not sure I understand the reason. Read it yourself and see if it makes sense **Joey** had said that he was planning on doing a Wall of Words on someone, but then decided that it would be impossible to do one on **Meeko** , and therefore decided not to do a WoW on anyone at all. **AllWalker** was criticizing **Joey** for this decision, as he could have done a WoW on some other, easier poster, instead of just throwing his hands up. It’s a reason, at least, though I don’t know if it’s a very good one, considering that almost nobody else has done a WoW on anyone, either, including **AllWalker**. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1432 "2009-05-17T19:35:13Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > It’s a reason, at least, though I don’t know if it’s a very good one, considering that almost nobody else has done a WoW on anyone, either, including **AllWalker**. This would seem to mean that AllWalker is asking for it. Then again, I guess that Ed, being the mason that he is, heh heh, is doing a wall on Mahaloth, right? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1433 "2009-05-17T19:41:25Z")
**omgus ?** ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1434 "2009-05-17T19:57:39Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > **omgus ?** Oh My God U Suck Basically, an OMGUS vote is a vote in retaliation for a vote. We call it an OMGUS vote because the only reasoning behind it is “Oh My God You Suck”. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1435 "2009-05-17T20:40:55Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Well, it only works on people who know what they are doing, and beyond that, are hiding what it is they are doing. What? > [@Meeko](#): > > Once you find that person, you need to find where they not as well hidden as in other posts. You mean, once I find a person who knows what they are doing, I need to find out where they not as well hidden as in…oh crap…what? > [@Meeko](#): > > That being said, Don’t look at me. > > 1. I have no clue what it is I am doing. I noticed > [@Meeko](#): > > 1. I have already claimed I claimed for you > [@Meeko](#): > > 1. You, above all other people would know that. Yes, I do. I understood that! > [@Meeko](#): > > Now, watch everyone else start looking at me here, simply because I say don’t look at me. Feeling picked on, are you? > [@Meeko](#): > > But then again, these kinda statements make my previous rants seem to disappear. What kind of statements? and..huh? > [@Meeko](#): > > I’m going to stop now, while I still can, on my own terms. You mean before someone makes you stop? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1436 "2009-05-17T20:42:04Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > NETA : > > The only common ground that Haggle and Mafia shares is that of the Double Effect. > > Yeah, I’m back in this. > > Someone, do something scummy. I need something to attack now. I feel like I should know better, but I have to ask. What’s a double effect? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1437 "2009-05-17T20:59:44Z")
Quoth **Inner Stickler** : > [@](#): > > Vote Peekercpa > > It’s not really for anything Peekercpa did but more how Freudian Slit was acting. She didn’t seem to want to participate. I just noticed this… Of course she didn’t want to participate; she asked for a sub, didn’t she? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1438 "2009-05-17T21:08:17Z")
Meanwhile, I haven’t really formed any impressions of **Thing Fish** yet, so I’m going to go digging through his posts. Back in a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1439 "2009-05-17T21:52:15Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Quoth **Inner Stickler** :I just noticed this… Of course she didn’t want to participate; she asked for a sub, didn’t she? Before she asked for a sub. Maybe the level of participation made her want out or something but the posts she made were antagonistic and not helpful from a townie point of view. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1440 "2009-05-17T22:29:14Z")
OK, my Wall of Words for **Thing Fish** : [110:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11087333#post11087333) Discusses O vs. E, comes down in favor of O [111:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11087341#post11087341) Agrees that editing is bad, and will likely vote for editors (note: [he did](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11093175&postcount=217)) [132:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11089325#post11089325) Speculates about possible power roles speculates that two different kinds of lynches might benefit two different kinds of scum thinks suspicion should not necessarily attach to executioner admits to not having much idea what’s going on. Note: Angel had already edited by this point. [Happy to see votes flying Finds Chronos’ plan audacious, but doesn’t think it scummy Thinks most of Spurious’ votes are ill-founded, but would like explanation of his “bandwagon” comment Votes to Ostracize Angel based on editing, semi-lurking (Ostracize chosen randomly) [url=“[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11095721#post11095721](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11095721#post11095721)”]264:]([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11093175&postcount=217](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11093175&postcount=217)) Speaks further against Angel’s edit [265:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11095766#post11095766) Defends possibility of Execute, since we don’t have enough information to choose between them. Defends use of coin-flip to decide [267:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11095772#post11095772) NETA [267](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11095777#post11095777), [268:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11095783#post11095783) Technical board coding [274:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11095902#post11095902) Agrees that current information seems to show O preferable to E, but this probably just means that current information is adequate. Thinks we should try each within the first few days, so as to not advantage one Scum faction over the other. [283:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11096391#post11096391) Defends against Angel’s vote, since he didn’t Execute like she’d claimed [299:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11096930#post11096930) Questions Angel’s vote again, points out that any editing looks scummy, since we can’t tell why it was done [398:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11100611#post11100611) Points out peculiarity of Telcontar’s claim of “votes are scattered” [410:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11101290#post11101290) Calls paul on statement that Sinners aren’t so bad, after all Suspects Spurious is Town, else Scum would have unvoted him. Suspects Angel is scum, for the same reason [443:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11102112#post11102112) Fluff [444:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11102119#post11102119) Promises to avenge Spurious [445:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11102123#post11102123) Calls special ed smudgy [447:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11102147#post11102147) Agrees with Chronos that any given player is likely Town, but less so than in a typical game, due to multiple Scum factions Reiterates that he thought case against Angel was better than against Spurious [449:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11102199#post11102199) Obviously possible that any given player is Scum, more important is who’s likely to be Gut feeling that scum are overrepresented among Spurious voters [467:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11104595#post11104595) Thinks we should treat Night just the same as Day re strategizing, but thinks night strategy rule is anti-Town as the rest is nice [468:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11104617#post11104617) Hadn’t heard of scum gloating over lynches; says he wasn’t [485:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11106282#post11106282) Start of analysis of Day 1 votes. Read this one-- It’s pretty long and in-depth. Expresses low suspicion of Chronos and AllWalker, moderate suspicion of Mahaloth, moderate to high suspicion off Joey P, low to moderate suspicion of Nanook [501:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11107698#post11107698) Continuation of vote analysis. Read this too. Moderate suspicion of Freudian, high suspicion of Angel but not increased by vote, moderate suspicion of Pinkies, moderate suspicion of Meeko, thinks Telcontar looks very scummy [742:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11114688#post11114688) Apologizes for being behind [848:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11117777#post11117777) Complains about Meeko Suspicious of paul, thinks votes on him were justified Still thinks case against Angel was good for Day 1, might be best case he has for Day 2, too. Fine with lynching Nanook or BillMC for lurking Questions Meeko’s vote pattern Asks why Angel delayed declaring Sinfection [850:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11117802#post11117802) Criticizes Meeko’s plan to stop discussion to keep information away from Scum, votes Meeko until he explains [904:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11118767#post11118767) Criticizes Angel’s OMGUS vote on him (not even founded), threatens to change vote to her [905:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11118769#post11118769) Clarifies charge of “bandwagon” against Nanook [906:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11118777#post11118777) Discussion of rules [907:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11118792#post11118792) Unvotes Meeko for Mason claim, votes Angel for making an OMGUS [952:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11121562#post11121562) Questions whether paul has confirmed plan to cleanse Angel [958:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11121796#post11121796) Discusses possible outcomes of plan for paul to cleanse Angel [1031:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11125016#post11125016) Unvotes Angel, votes paul for not agreeing to plan [1056:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11125906#post11125906) Celebrates death of Pinkies [1071:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11127123#post11127123) Continues support of plan for paul to cleanse Angel, since even if not definitive, will provide info Points out abundance of lurkers still (Nanook, Joey P, Bear\_Nenno, Inner Stickler, and BillMC all having not voted) [1153:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11134829#post11134829) Takes paul’s word that there’s a vote-buyer, presumably not a Sinner (since bought vote offed Pinkies Doubts presence of Doctor, since paul got killed [1155:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11134861#post11134861) Missed a couple of pages Corrects that it was Guy Incognito (replaced by Stickler) who no-voted Comments that Masons can’t usually communicate [1178:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11137100#post11137100) Suspects more than one Sinner to start game, based on game balance, and speculates about mechanism and number of Sinfection Reconsiders suspicion of Angel, since nobody else seems to see it Suspects Freudian and Mahaloth, based on paul votes and contribution to Spurious lynch. Also Rysto, who voted paul both days Laments large number of subs [1190:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11137835#post11137835) Admits that Mahaloth’s explanation is consistent with Town, but also consistent with Scum. Reiterates suspicion of Freuidan/peeker, Mahaloth, or Rysto [1202:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11138129#post11138129) Thinks further discussion of Sinners is unlikely to be productive at this time Votes Angel as a joke [1203:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11138135#post11138135) Unvotes Angel, admits joke [1258:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11140690#post11140690) Helps bring peeker up to speed speculates pessimistically on how close we are to LYLO [1260:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11140875#post11140875) Fluff [1265:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11141052#post11141052) Doesn’t want to get into editing discussion again Expresses desire to get votes out by mid-Day Votes peeker based on Freudian’s actions, lack of accountability of peeker [1267:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11141061#post11141061) Fluff [1268:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11141068#post11141068) Presumes existence of doctor based on Meeko’s claim to have been protected [1276:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11141263#post11141263) Explains meaning of “fishing” [1280:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11141428#post11141428) Agrees with special ed that Sinners had a greater motivation to pile-on paul, but Blackhearts still had a motivation [1349:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11145708#post11145708) Calls more suspicion on Freudian/peeker based on old posts (some of which weren’t even by Freudian) Will switch vote to Angel if necessary [1406:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11149151#post11149151) Backs off some on previous post [1408:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11149170#post11149170) Says that Seed of Sin is not a good basis for vote, since it can be removed Agrees that Angel is probably not Sinner, but she might still be Blackheart Holds back from OMGUS on Rysto since he’s tired, drinking [1414:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11149695#post11149695) Asks about peeker unvoting Mahaloth Comments on large number of nonvoters No comment on Angel/newpaul [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=71) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=73)