# The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271 "2009-04-24T22:16:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 85
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1681 "2009-05-21T06:42:28Z")
Can someone watching post this in the forbidden thread for me if it hasn’t been done yet? > **[Anyone up for a mini game? | Mafia Games](https://psychopathgame.proboards.com/thread/943?page=1)** > > I was thinking of running a mini game if anyone is interested. I was thinking of a 9 player, simple set up. For those that are awaiting another game but, still want to play! 1. toadfoot it’s a newbie game starting soon on [idlemafia.com](http://idlemafia.com) ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1682 "2009-05-21T06:49:22Z")
Paul, have you considered the idea the IS is Sinner, but is playing stupid to throw us off? I don’t know if that’s the case, but wouldn’t be first time. ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1683 "2009-05-21T06:57:26Z")
> [@AllWalker](#): > > Paul, have you considered the idea the IS is Sinner, but is playing stupid to throw us off? I don’t know if that’s the case, but wouldn’t be first time. My response to his 2nd post offers this as a suggestion… did you not read it? All the work to have it skimmed? Anyway… I considered it… but he seemed thoroughly confused about Sin… either way… it may be possible he is playing dumb… but that would imply he is a Sinner… so my feelings are that he is a Blackheart… but that it is possible he is a Sinner. Either way I dont think he is town… and he would have my vote toDay. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1684 "2009-05-21T07:02:21Z")
Help me out here gang. How tall is my order here, and how close to filling that order am I doing? One of my first comments in this game, and in an actual Mafia thread was to the effect of how hard **this game** was going to be for noobs. With hindsight, was I correct? Granted, we had no idea what our game would look like NOW, back then. I can’t shakethe idea that you guys are confusing different with " wrong ". ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1685 "2009-05-21T07:07:33Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Help me out here gang. > > How tall is my order here, and how close to filling that order am I doing? > > One of my first comments in this game, and in an actual Mafia thread was to the effect of how hard **this game** was going to be for noobs. > > With hindsight, was I correct? > > Granted, we had no idea what our game would look like NOW, back then. > > I can’t shakethe idea that you guys are confusing different with " wrong ". Yes you said this was gonna be especially hard for newbs… I agree… I encourage you to play in the newb game I linked to. BUT… the game has been simplified several times over since then. I can still understand you having trouble though… because there are three factions. " I can’t shakethe idea that you guys are confusing different with " wrong ". " Not exactly sure what you just said there… ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1686 "2009-05-21T07:33:29Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > My response to his 2nd post offers this as a suggestion… did you not read it? All the work to have it skimmed? > > Anyway… I considered it… but he seemed thoroughly confused about Sin… either way… it may be possible he is playing dumb… but that would imply he is a Sinner… so my feelings are that he is a Blackheart… but that it is possible he is a Sinner. Either way I dont think he is town… and he would have my vote toDay. Sorry. I did read that, but for some reason it didn’t register. I don’t know, but IS seems to be _really_ confused about sin. No one else seems to be. If I were going to call IS scum, I would lean towards Sinner rather than Blackheart. But that’s just me. YMMV considerably. ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1687 "2009-05-21T07:38:02Z")
> [@AllWalker](#): > > Sorry. I did read that, but for some reason it didn’t register. > > I don’t know, but IS seems to be _really_ confused about sin. No one else seems to be. If I were going to call IS scum, I would lean towards Sinner rather than Blackheart. > > But that’s just me. YMMV considerably. I have never figures out what YMMV stands for… 😕 ---
**Author:** ![BillMC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@BillMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BillMC)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1688 "2009-05-21T08:03:39Z")
WooHoo! Managed to convince the ISP that straightdope wasn’t a porn site. Strewth - I see I have a lot of catching up to do. In the mean time, it appears I got double teamed in the night - ensinned and my vote was bought - I never knew you guys cared so much! ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1689 "2009-05-21T08:14:39Z")
> [@BillMC](#): > > WooHoo! > Managed to convince the ISP that straightdope wasn’t a porn site. > > Strewth - I see I have a lot of catching up to do. > > In the mean time, it appears I got double teamed in the night - ensinned and my vote was bought - I never knew you guys cared so much! Ummm… ok… this is awkward… PEDE? If Bill is saying he can participate now… then I’ll go back to the forbidden thread… unfortunately that means I can’t sub in again until he is dead. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![BillMC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@BillMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BillMC)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1690 "2009-05-21T08:23:57Z")
Oh - I see I got subbed - no problem. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1691 "2009-05-21T12:29:15Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I’m not **Rysto** , but I can identify plenty of people who are acting in a more advantageous way than **peeker**. Did you mean “advantageous to Scum”, or “advantageous to **Mahaloth** ”? To Scum. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1692 "2009-05-21T15:15:02Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > I have never figures out what YMMV stands for… 😕 Your Mileage May Vary. WOO HOO. One I know!!! ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1693 "2009-05-21T15:16:52Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > " I can’t shakethe idea that you guys are confusing different with " wrong ". " Not exactly sure what you just said there… Frankly, if I hadn’t claimed, or had a claim for me, I bet I would be lynched by now. You guys are STRONGLY implying that I am playing this game wrong, and I am insisting that it is different, not wrong. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1694 "2009-05-21T15:27:51Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Now, Rysto, can you identify someone who is acting in a more advantageous way than Peeker? If so, and you can give us the evidence, I’m totally game for voting for that person instead. If not, what are you going to do? > > \*I know, I know. You don’t know for sure I’m town, but I do and that’s all I can rely on. 🙂 _blink_ so if someone is identified as being more advantageous to town than me you will move your vote to them. _blink_ ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1695 "2009-05-21T15:36:28Z")
and just so you know this game is not **peeker** being **peeker**. i got subbed in 20+ pages into this game. i normally post responses post by post. and because i normally stay caught up this only creates a little bit of confusion. but with the volume to be made up in a hurry it may have been perceived differently by those reading. for that, they are either being deliberately obtuse, are just ignoring the facts or are not working in the best interest of town. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1696 "2009-05-21T15:47:13Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > _blink_ > > so if someone is identified as being more advantageous to town than me you will move your vote to them. > > _blink_ **Are you skimming? Please do not put words in my mouth.** I meant advantageous to the scum, which I thought was clear in my post, but clarified later. In fact, in the original post, I said, **“Obviously, if someone does something we know is helpful to the scum, we would lynch them immediately.”** Read my original post here: [Original Post that the quote comes out of](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11162582&postcount=1652) Read the clarification here: [Clarification](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11163695&postcount=1691) **Stop skimming and assuming!** ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1697 "2009-05-21T15:59:29Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I guess I get your point, Rysto, but how exactly are you making your choice as to who to vote for? I think everyone, especially in this game, can admit that it is difficult to identify anyone doing anything we can see as directly and definitely “pro scum”. Obviously, if someone does something we know is helpful to the scum, we would lynch them immediately. > > Let me explain how Peeker’s actions lean heavily toward scumminess. > > He voted me and others on a total whim. I know I’m town\*, so a guy out there throwing votes around randomly with no reason on townies is definitely the kind of guy that aids the scum in their quest to eliminate townies. > > So much so, in fact, that I believe he is the scummiest active player. > > **Now, Rysto, can you identify someone who is acting in a more advantageous way than Peeker? If so, and you can give us the evidence, I’m totally game for voting for that person instead. If not, what are you going to do?** > > \*I know, I know. You don’t know for sure I’m town, but I do and that’s all I can rely on. 🙂 \ nope, this is what you said. _double blink_ you question my my motives for my votes, which i have explained previously. you think i am the scummiest. you then suggest that if someone acting more advantageous to town could be found that you would switch your vote. those are your words not mine. if am parsing incorrectly or if you were just bullshitting and want to change your mind, that’s cool. but nonetheless what i said you said is what you said. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1698 "2009-05-21T16:23:14Z")
> [@](#): > > you then suggest that if someone acting more advantageous to town could be found that you would switch your vote. **peeker** , this doesn’t make any sense at all. There’s no reason to assume that when Mahaloth said “advantageous” he meant “advantageous to town”. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1699 "2009-05-21T17:06:30Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > \ > if am parsing incorrectly or if you were just bullshitting and want to change your mind, that’s cool. but nonetheless what i said you said is what you said. No, it isn’t and either you are a total idiot or you know you are wrong and are trying to deceive others Whatever, peeker. You are so wrong, I can’t even begin to respond to your nonsense. If others actually think peeker has a valid point, let me know and I’ll re-explain it again. Honestly, just read what I actually posted and what I clarified and it should be clear that I meant if someone is working in an advantageous way for the scum, they should be killed. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1700 "2009-05-21T18:13:17Z")
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