# The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271 "2009-04-24T22:16:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Spurious\_George](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Spurious\_George](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spurious_George)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/161 "2009-04-30T00:59:37Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> **Spurious George** and **Justin Credible** have 2 posts, by the way.
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> …  
> I think if Captain Pickles or Nanook don’t show up by Friday, we should ostracize them. It’d be fair, anyway.
> 
> Anyway, thoughts? Good idea? Horrible idea?

I’ll remember that you put me on that list , Mahaloth! But I actually do think it’s a decent idea with nothing else to go by.

(_furtively adds Mahaloth to The List._)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/162 "2009-04-30T01:08:53Z")

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OK, I know I said I was going to wait until I had time for some more analysis, but **Spurious** , that’s really scummy. First, voting for someone just because someone else had voted for them, then, choosing Execution rather than Ostracization for no stated reason, and then, getting upset that someone’s expressed suspicion of you for perfectly reasonable reasons? I just can’t let that pass unnoticed.

**Ostracize Spurious George**

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/163 "2009-04-30T01:37:41Z")

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Sorry I’ve been a bit out of it. I’ve been so sick/exhausted past two days, reading has taken a lot of effort, but I’m here now.

I’m not sure whom to vote for first, but I think ostracizing is the way to go, because someone gets the seed of sin no matter what if we execute, and that’s bad for all of us in the long run.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/164 "2009-04-30T01:56:30Z")

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> [@Spurious\_George](#):
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> I’ll remember that you put me on that list , Mahaloth! But I actually do think it’s a decent idea with nothing else to go by.
> 
> (_furtively adds Mahaloth to The List._)

Yeah, it’s cool. I was actually just listing anyone who had 2 posts or less, though.

I hope you see it wasn’t me that put you on that list, but yourself. Was I wrong?

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/165 "2009-04-30T02:00:22Z")

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Sorry, got my Facebook account back. Please sub me out! Thanks! :)\*

\*I didn’t really want to play anyway.

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**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/166 "2009-04-30T02:06:33Z")

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I have to agree with **Chronos** on that one. The first vote is a wild guess. So why execute?

**Vote Ostracize Spurious George**

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/167 "2009-04-30T02:10:42Z")

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Man, Spurious George really was off in his thread. He says,

“I’ll remember that you put me on that list , Mahaloth!”

when clearly I only listed those who had low post counts(2 and under) by the listing on the front page at the time(I clicked the post count to get the individualized total).

Then, he executes someone? For no reason?

I’m willing to change my mind if a scum slips or something else emerges as a better method for choosing, but I have to agree with Chronos.

**Vote Ostracize Spurious George**

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**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/168 "2009-04-30T02:12:56Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> On the other hand, if someone is clearly going to be Executed anyway and someone comes in to vote for him with two minutes left in the Day, that will look fishy as hell; but my intention is to assume that any vote which could plausibly be motivated by standard Mafia play most likely is so motivated.

I agree that that would be suspicious behaviour, but what is the Scum motivation for this? It is not in the interests of Sinners to vote for the big E\* last, and we don’t know the effects of Blackhearts becoming sin-infected.

Nevermind, on thinking it over, it would be a Townie switching sides.

\*If I call execution the big E, is ostracizing the big O? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/169 "2009-04-30T02:14:07Z")

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> [@AllWalker](#):
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> \*If I call execution the big E, is ostracizing the big O? 🙂

Well, yeah, I guess we could call it that, I mean…

:eek:

:smack:

😃

Good Lord!

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/170 "2009-04-30T02:21:39Z")

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> [@Spurious\_George](#):
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> I’m nothing if not a fan of bandwagons, and I don’t want to be the Sinner who casts the last stone, so…
> 
> **Execute AngeloftheNorth**

I’m not sure if this was a slip or just poorly worded, but you just called yourself a sinner, some I’m voting for you.

**Ostracize Spurious George**

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/171 "2009-04-30T02:34:00Z")

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Of course that should be “so I’m voting for you” not “some voting for you” :smack:

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/172 "2009-04-30T02:38:21Z")

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> [@Justin\_Credible](#):
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> Yeah, sorry about that. SDMB was blocked at work this week, and I’ve been trying to catch up to the thread this evening. It’ll probably be tomorrow evening before I actually post anything of substance.

Very cool, Justin. I was a bit surprised to see your posts on the low end. It should be fun to be in the game together again.

🙂

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/173 "2009-04-30T02:41:07Z")

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So…um…anyone who wants to sub in, post here or PM me.

I’ll start advertising…

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/174 "2009-04-30T03:00:11Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Of course that should be “so I’m voting for you” not “some voting for you” :smack:

Didn’t you want to edit that? 😉

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/175 "2009-04-30T03:04:08Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> Didn’t you want to edit that? 😉

Yes I did, I really really did…but I didn’t.🆒

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/176 "2009-04-30T03:06:27Z")

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**Can you change your vote once you have made one?**

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/177 "2009-04-30T03:10:11Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> **Can you change your vote once you have made one?**

Yes

> [@The Rules](#):
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> Votes are in bold and blue, like so:  
> **Execute pedescribe**
> 
> Unvotes are in bold and red:  
> \*\*Unostracize Mahaloth

\*\*

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/178 "2009-04-30T03:12:19Z")

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Ok, I wondered at one time what an unvote was.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/179 "2009-04-30T03:34:33Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> **Can you change your vote once you have made one?**

Yes. You just unvote.

Though it would certainly be interesting if you couldn’t…

:rubs hands evilly:

Thanks for the idea!

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/180 "2009-04-30T04:08:18Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> Yes. You just unvote.
> 
> Though it would certainly be interesting if you couldn’t…
> 
> :rubs hands evilly:
> 
> Thanks for the idea!

That’s not cool man. Not when the noob has to talk him self up, more than once on making a vote he honestly feels he needs to make.

Get ready for my NETA vote that I have currently in another browser window.

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