# The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271 "2009-04-24T22:16:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 91
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1801 "2009-05-23T23:38:53Z")
**Vote Chronos** His plans would allow scum to vote for townies and defend themselves by claiming that they were the best choice mathematically speaking. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1802 "2009-05-24T01:49:30Z")
What I find the most Odd, even if the math is wrong, or, even if the math is right, it would appear that the people that should vote for Chronos aren’t, and vice versa. The game is such, we have yet to all get on the same track. Granted, two factions will never be on the same track, much less three. However, it feels we are playing on 9 or more tracks here. Strange bedfellows and what not. Two questions for you all here: Are Mafia games always this disjoint, even this late into the game? And admittedly, unrelated :: You may disagree with the conclusion of my post where I attack Chronos’ math (in depth), but I think it is a substantial post. Even if posts like that do not DIRECTLY add to the game, what value do they have in the game? [[I mean, If I could have more posts like that, and less posts of the other kind, EVERYONE in the game would like me more, and my play overall would improve. Correct?]] ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1803 "2009-05-24T01:57:07Z")
> [@](#): > > What I find the most Odd, even if the math is wrong, or, even if the math is right, it would appear that the people that should vote for Chronos aren’t, and vice versa. I dunno; if anyone “should” vote for me, I suppose that **Inner Stickler** should be one of them, since he’s one of the ones who comes out of my analysis looking bad. Speaking of which, > [@](#): > > His plans would allow scum to vote for townies and defend themselves by claiming that they were the best choice mathematically speaking. This presumes that the best choices as mathematically determined by my plan are Town. Clearly, I’m not convinced of that. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1804 "2009-05-24T02:17:27Z")
I thought about switching my vote to Chronos, but I think peeker has been more anti-town than Chronos. I guess I might be naive, but I think Chronos is at least attempting something that he think benefits town. Because of this, I am leaning toward thinking he is town. I know I’m town and have no idea about Inner Stickler, but I still hold that peeker is behaving in the most anti-town way I’ve seen. I guess my questions for peeker would be, “If you are Town, why do you act so randomly? Why vote with no explanation? Why make such odd accusations?” ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1805 "2009-05-24T02:29:37Z")
So. I am looking at the current vote count. as I write this. Bear\_Nenno (4): Allwalker, Chronos, BillPaul, Joey P This is the part that I wish to look at. I am not sure if we can call it a bandwagon, but as of right now, it looks like Bear\_Nenno is going down. \*\* Strange, when he hasn’t really been playing that much. Strange, when we had BillMC hasn’t been playing that much, yet ended up with a bought vote, and sinfeciton. \*\* It would be a real, female dog, if everyone who has not been playing this game, has been town. We have had a lot of subs. I just hope they were evenly balanced. It would be more of a fix, if all of the most active players, have been blackhearts. I do not think I can ever fully explain why I suspect someone more than someone else, but let me try, with what I can, in the following way. AllWalker is the main reason I asked about the most helpful person pinging you. To me, this amount of “help” seems to hide something. It might not be scum, but it DOES hide something. I have gone on record, earlier, much earlier in the game on disagreeing with Chronos, and his ““systems””. His systems have changed throughout the game, but more often than not, the seem to (By me, and more recently, by other players) to be a complicated solution to a **win** that only furthers Sinners and Scum. BillMC Has a bought vote, and as far as I can tell, is still sinfected. He might still be town, but currently, he IS less town that other people. Not by the spirit of the character, but by the letter of his current status in the game. Frankly, I just haven’t liked Joey P since we differed in humor and WTF being a joke. * * * Granted, Bear could be squirming on the hook here, saying anything that he thinks we want to hear. Yet. He psuedo-soft claimed ?! to be Pro Town, with a power role. Would be sad if he had such a role. But then, we would have 4 people to look at tomorrow. If Bear goes, and he was Power Town, I will have my work ahead of me, based in no small part, on the vote count I posted above. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1806 "2009-05-24T02:31:04Z")
I guess I’ll just ask, Meeko. Now that you are no longer the only one voting for me(which I don’t get still), do you still have any reason for voting for me? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1807 "2009-05-24T02:41:54Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I guess I’ll just ask, Meeko. Now that you are no longer the only one voting for me(which I don’t get still), do you still have any reason for voting for me? I do. This game advertises so many things. Once you actually get into the game, you realize how small your menu of moves actually is. You still need to do things, yet they make no sense to anyone anymore. \*\* I fear my variables might be getting compounded here. However, Mahaloth could be 101% town, He could say that much, and I would still not move. The outcome of this vote will help me in Mafia. It may, or may not help me in The Crimson Glyph. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1808 "2009-05-24T02:53:19Z")
Peeker, Have you ever looked in on a Haggle game? I really would like to see what you could do to that game. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1809 "2009-05-24T03:18:02Z")
Well, I’ve done a re-read of the thread. I ended up paying a lot of attention to the peeker/Mahaloth interaction and despite the fact that peeker wasn’t making any sense(or _arguments_), Mahaloth actually came out looking worse in the re-read: (votes have been bleached) > [@Mahaloth](#): > > Yeah, it’s cool. I was actually just listing anyone who had 2 posts or less, though. > > I hope you see it wasn’t me that put you on that list, but yourself. Was I wrong? > [@Mahaloth](#): > > Man, Spurious George really was off in his thread. He says, > > “I’ll remember that you put me on that list , Mahaloth!” > > when clearly I only listed those who had low post counts(2 and under) by the listing on the front page at the time(I clicked the post count to get the individualized total). > > Then, he executes someone? For no reason? > > I’m willing to change my mind if a scum slips or something else emerges as a better method for choosing, but I have to agree with Chronos. > > **Vote Ostracize Spurious George** This is something that’s been brought up before, but between peeker’s noise and Chronos’ method I think that it’s been lost. These two posts we made within 15 minutes of one another, **and George didn’t make a single post in the meantime**. So what the heck happened to make Mahaloth go from, “Yeah, it’s cool” to “George really was off”? AllWalker did come in with a vote in that time, which tied George for the lead at 2. I think that Mahaloth saw that a bandwagon could be forming and decided to give it a big push. > [@Mahaloth](#): > > I’ve talked myself into it. > > I’m starting to get concerned that we are targeting vocal people, which I really feel is not a great way to start. If we eliminate vocal people in the early stages of the game, we may end up regretting it later. > > In fact, I’ll start off by voting for someone with a low post count. Please feel free to follow along if you think this is a fair and acceptable way to eliminate someone on Day One, where we have little evidence. > > **Unostracize Spurious George** > > **Ostracize Captain Pinkies** > > He is in the game and has one post. He might be scum or he might not be, but it’s worth a shot, unless some scum person slips up. And now, 1 hour later, the bandwagon has taken off and Mahaloth gets off. As people have said before, it looks like an attempt to avoid accountability for his role in getting the bandwagon started. Mahaloth was asked about the abrupt change between the initial post and the vote, and said this: > [@Mahaloth](#): > > 1. The reason I said, “It’s cool” in post 164(not 162) was because I was trying to be nice. I changed my mind because I realized he had executed someone when I really think we should ostracize people. He’s changing his story. In his initial vote he talked more about George’s reaction to the list than the vote to execute. When people rightly called him on the contradiction with his original “it’s cool” reaction, he says that the real reason for his vote was the vote to execute, which really seems like an afterthought in that vote post. > [@Mahaloth](#): > > Well, Meeko, it’s either lynch Paul or lynch a lurker. > > Yes, I know. Everyone who has read my posts is probably tired of hearing about that. I still think Nanook or Captain Pinkies could very well be choosing to slide along unnoticed. A minor point, but it stuck out at me. I don’t like the whole “it’s lynch Paul or lynch a lurker” thing. And note we know the alignment of all three of the lynch candidates he proposed here, and none of them are Blackhearts. ToDay(his vote post): > [@Mahaloth](#): > > I’ll add more later if I have to, but he honestly is acting the most scum-like, in my opinion. **If he doesn’t turn out to be scum, he’s clearly just a very anti-town townie, which is weird.** (bolding mine) I’m surprised that I missed this on first read through. I think that this is a _huge_ slip. I think that Mahaloth knows that peeker’s going to turn up scum and put in a preemptive defence for a vote that, at the time, looked like was going to be for the lynch candidate toDay. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1810 "2009-05-24T03:19:13Z")
NETA: **Vote Mahaloth** , obviously. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1811 "2009-05-24T04:48:00Z")
Quoth **Meeko** : > [@](#): > > I am not sure if we can call it a bandwagon, but as of right now, it looks like Bear\_Nenno is going down. > > Strange, when he hasn’t really been playing that much. Correction: He hasn’t been _posting_ much. He has, however, been _reading_ the thread, as indicated by his quick response to getting votes. This is as contrasted to **BillMC** , who was apparently not able to get to the SDMB at all. My vote for Bear\_Nenno was originally intended as a feeler, precisely to see whether he would react to it. If he hadn’t responded within a lower-case day or two, I would have concluded that he wasn’t following the thread at all, and thus was harmless, like **BillMC** was. With his response, though, he went from the category of “nonparticipant” to “lurker”, and nobody should be able to get away with lurking their way this far into the game. Sure, he might be quiet here, but for all we know, he could still be posting on the Scum board. So he kept my vote once he showed up. And now, with my vote analysis, he ranks nearly as high as **Mahaloth** and **Inner Stickler** , and while I wouldn’t be sad to see either of them get the boot, either, I think that lurking for four Days straight is more dangerous than anything either of them has done. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1812 "2009-05-24T05:09:37Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Peeker, > > Have you ever looked in on a Haggle game? > > I really would like to see what you could do to that game. nope. but would be willing to give it a whirl if my mafia dancecard wasn’t so booked ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1813 "2009-05-24T05:10:14Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Granted, Bear could be squirming on the hook here, saying anything that he thinks we want to hear. > > Yet. He psuedo-soft claimed ?! to be Pro Town, with a power role. > Would be sad if he had such a role. A soft claim? Do you mean this (#1701): > [@Bear\_Nenno](#): > > Don’t lynch me!! I know it’s scummy to lurk, but I have no freaking clue what’s going on here. As much as I’d love for you guys to put me out of my misery and end my obligation to this game, it is not in Town’s best interest. > I am not scum. > > I tried on three seperate occassions to catch up in this game, but the fact that it’s all in one GIANT thread, makes it hard to seperate everything. Add to that the fact that we can talk strategy at night, it’s impossible to figure out where in the game any particular page is. It’s overwhelming. > When I first subbed in, I was fired up and motivated. But all the confustion, rule changes, indecisive mod, subs, etc… I couldn’t take it anymore. > > **Though my life can’t really add much to Town’s efforts, my death will certainly take away from it.** That might be a soft claim, but that’s not how I read it. After all if his life can’t add to the Town’s efforts, it isn’t much of a power role, is it? **Chronos** said it best. He is not just absent, but a genuine lurker. My vote stands. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1814 "2009-05-24T05:11:23Z")
**Chronos** , your mathematical approach to the game is interesting. I don’t claim to be a math guy, but my feel for the situation is that it’s going to be very hard to find Blackhearts by vote analysis. Not only have we not lynched any Blackhearts, we haven’t even succeeded in putting pressure on them; only one vote all game has been close, and we now know that neither candidate in that one was a Blackheart. That being the case, I think it’s assuming too much to say that none of the BH have voted for each other; since every vote has gone their way without a fight, they may very well have taken the opportunity to vote for each other in order for possible cred down the road. I would think that the very high number of no-votes in this game would also be a big confounder in such an analysis. I would be interested, if the math wouldn’t be too complicated, to see what it would look like if we assumed that every BH had voted for either no or one other BH. If we could make such a relatively small shift in our assumptions and _not_ have it translate into a huge shift in the results, I would think that would be a point in favor of the method. Personally, I think vote analysis is the most powerful tool Town has, and playing this game has made me realize how challenging this three-way setup makes it. My vote is staying on **peekerslit**. WRT **Bear** , sure, lurking, bad, lynchum, why not? BTW,\*\* Meeko\*\*, I’m not seeing where **Bear** claimed to be a power role, and just saying you’re Town is not usually considered to be a claim, soft or otherwise, since everyone will always say that. Not quite getting the **Mahaloth** thing, but that’s not surprising since two of his three votes are from people who don’t justify their votes. And **Rysto** is just now noticing **Mahaloth’s** behavior which I pointed out on Day One? Hmm… ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1815 "2009-05-24T06:33:07Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > So. I am looking at the current vote count. as I write this. > > Bear\_Nenno (4): Allwalker, Chronos, BillPaul, Joey P > > This is the part that I wish to look at. > > I am not sure if we can call it a bandwagon, but as of right now, it looks like Bear\_Nenno is going down. > \*\* > Strange, when he hasn’t really been playing that much. > > Strange, when we had BillMC hasn’t been playing that much, yet ended up with a bought vote, and sinfeciton. > \*\* > > It would be a real, female dog, if everyone who has not been playing this game, has been town. We have had a lot of subs. I just hope they were evenly balanced. > > It would be more of a fix, if all of the most active players, have been blackhearts. > > I do not think I can ever fully explain why I suspect someone more than someone else, but let me try, with what I can, in the following way. > > AllWalker is the main reason I asked about the most helpful person pinging you. To me, this amount of “help” seems to hide something. It might not be scum, but it DOES hide something. > > I have gone on record, earlier, much earlier in the game on disagreeing with Chronos, and his ““systems””. His systems have changed throughout the game, but more often than not, the seem to (By me, and more recently, by other players) to be a complicated solution to a **win** that only furthers Sinners and Scum. > > BillMC Has a bought vote, and as far as I can tell, is still sinfected. He might still be town, but currently, he IS less town that other people. Not by the spirit of the character, but by the letter of his current status in the game. > > Frankly, I just haven’t liked Joey P since we differed in humor and WTF being a joke. > > * * * > > Granted, Bear could be squirming on the hook here, saying anything that he thinks we want to hear. > > Yet. He psuedo-soft claimed ?! to be Pro Town, with a power role. > Would be sad if he had such a role. > > But then, we would have 4 people to look at tomorrow. If Bear goes, and he was Power Town, I will have my work ahead of me, based in no small part, on the vote count I posted above. I still don’t see why you think it is strange that BillMC had his vote bought and was ensinned. He had major connectivity issues. I am sure the politician is town… so by buying the vote of the guy who hadn’t voted the past two nights, he gived town a second vote essentially. The Sinners would naturally want to ensin someone who is seemingly lurking because they are less likely to announce their ensinment… ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1816 "2009-05-24T09:26:50Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > WRT **Bear** , sure, lurking, bad, lynchum, why not? > BTW,\*\* Meeko\*\*, I’m not seeing where **Bear** claimed to be a power role, and just saying you’re Town is not usually considered to be a claim, soft or otherwise, since everyone will always say that. It definitely isn’t a soft claim. Hell, I never even got a role PM. When I subbed in, I got simply a “Thanks! You’re vanilla.” You’re not going to get anything from lynching me. I haven’t voted, so you can’t analyze that. I haven’t said much or been suspicious of anyone, so you can’t look at that. Really, the only thing you will get from lynching me is that scum will have one less person to hide among when I am dead. If that seems like the best strategy for toDay (I have no idea what Day it is, even) then lynch away. I’m just hoping you guys are making your decision off strategy and not suspicion. ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1817 "2009-05-24T11:22:34Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > Vote Count: > > Peeker (2): Mahaloth, Thing Fish > Bear\_Nenno (4): Allwalker, Chronos, BillPaul, Joey P. > Mahaloth (_3_): Meeko, peeker, _Rysto_ _Rysto’s vote added to quote. Inner Stickler’s vote neglected for clarity_. **peeker** has attracted 2 votes toDay. If the 2 people who haven’t yet voted for any of the vote leaders voted together they could swing the results, or force a tie. Surprisingly, the current vote leader is pleading to be spared yet has not casted a vote in self defense. Tsk tsk, I say. Of all the people in Town, the only people who are voting for **peeker** are high on the suspect list of the rest of town. What does this mean? Nothing, until we identify some more bad guys. Bear\_Nenno? Care to cast your vote toDay? Time is running out. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1818 "2009-05-24T14:16:09Z")
Vote Count: Chronos (1): Inner Stickler Peeker (2): Mahaloth, Thing Fish Bear\_Nenno (4): Allwalker, Chronos, BillPaul, Joey P. Mahaloth (3): Meeko, peeker, Rysto The Day may, once again, end a bit late. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1819 "2009-05-24T14:34:28Z")
> [@AllWalker](#): > > Surprisingly, the current vote leader is pleading to be spared yet has not casted a vote in self defense. Tsk tsk, I say. > > Of all the people in Town, the only people who are voting for **peeker** are high on the suspect list of the rest of town. What does this mean? Nothing, until we identify some more bad guys. > > Bear\_Nenno? Care to cast your vote toDay? Time is running out. I would point out, that I am not voting for Bear, and have also pointed out, that it appears to be a bandwagon. I **HIGHLY** suspect that everyone that has been idle is this game has been town. Further, I suspect, that relatively speaking, sans the Meeko outlier [;)] , the Blackhearts have been busy. I can only imagine, if they have a scum board, how busy that thing is. Why is this game fixated on lyching lurkers, this late in the game? Town knows next to nothing about them, scum knows enough. They are acting on it. * * * Speaking of lurking, I will be out today, again. Memorial day, and all of that. * * * **Pedescribe, will you open up all boards to all players and or other wise fill in the blanks, after the game is over?** The Dead Thread for the split didn’t have the amount of information that I thought would be provided. I mean, I didn’t see why that thread was that forbidded. How common is it, to fill in the blanks, FOR ALL THE PLAYERS, Dead or alive, after the conclusion of the game? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1820 "2009-05-24T14:35:40Z")
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