# The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271 "2009-04-24T22:16:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 98
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1941 "2009-05-26T17:42:40Z")
Sounds good, Meeko. So we have an extra 27 hours in this Night. **I assume Day Five will still end on Sunday at noon. Is this right, Ped?** ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1942 "2009-05-26T22:21:19Z")
Oh, sorry I didn’t notice before: Quoth **Thing Fish** : > [@](#): > > Very interesting. The one thing I notice about these numbers, especially the ones that don’t assume you’re Town, is that, as you surmised, the difference between players is much smaller – except that peeker is now way down on his own little island of towniness. Can you explain in simple language why that is? My analysis shows **peeker** as likely non-Blackheart because I’m assuming a low number of Scum-on-Scum votes, and **peeker** has voted for lots of folks, and lots of folks have voted for **peeker**. So in almost all scenarios where **peeker** is Scum, multiples of those other people are Scum, too, contrary to assumption. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1943 "2009-05-27T00:51:45Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Oh, sorry I didn’t notice before: > Quoth **Thing Fish** : So in almost all scenarios where **peeker** is Scum, multiples of those other people are Scum, too, contrary to assumption. Seems like people are looking at Peeker. After Peeker, we have Rysto. As I write this, Rysto comes in just after Peeker in the number of posts department. I might be a bit fuzzy here, but, I believe, **save for Peeker** , that Rysto is the next living lurker. Given our track record on lurkers this game, what should we do here? Just an idea, because I’m tired of shutting down, thinking about my final hours here. I need to be more productive than I am in this game. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1944 "2009-05-27T00:58:30Z")
Meeko, Inner Stickler and AllWalker have posted less than peeker and I. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1945 "2009-05-27T01:16:09Z")
Honestly, Meeko, I don’t really think there are any lurkers left. People post different amounts of varying quality, but everyone in the game at this point is playing, at least in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1946 "2009-05-27T01:34:24Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > Meeko, Inner Stickler and AllWalker have posted less than peeker and I. That should be parsed as Meeko: Inner Stickler and AllWalker, Obviously Meeko has posted more than I have. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1947 "2009-05-27T01:49:12Z")
I think Meeko has 427 posts, while the next highest is specialed, who had 195. This is nothing for Meeko, **who posted more than 800 posts in one week of Haggle**. That’s right…just 7 days of trading and he posted 800 times. The man is not human…he’s a machine! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1948 "2009-05-27T02:30:58Z")
Yeah, some folks have more than others, but everyone has something that can be analyzed, now. Well, maybe **peeker** doesn’t have anything that can be _analyzed_, but whatever it is, he has plenty of it. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1949 "2009-05-27T02:41:25Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > The man is not human…he’s a machine! I’m not a machine, I’m an unemployed Human. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1950 "2009-05-27T02:43:23Z")
I wonder if someone isn’t try to ell me the wrong time. I mean, when day is over with. It would be over the top scummy of them if they do. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1951 "2009-05-27T03:12:42Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Oh, sorry I didn’t notice before: > Quoth **Thing Fish** :My analysis shows **peeker** as likely non-Blackheart because I’m assuming a low number of Scum-on-Scum votes, and **peeker** has voted for lots of folks, and lots of folks have voted for **peeker**. So in almost all scenarios where **peeker** is Scum, multiples of those other people are Scum, too, contrary to assumption. Well, that’s interesting. I understand what you’re saying, but given that he hasn’t actually come all that close to being lynched, I am guessing that at least some of those votes going both ways may have been face-saving votes (especially when **peeker** first came in and was throwing votes around willy-nilly. IOW, I think this method may not work as well for\*\* peeker\*\* as it might for someone with a more, um, traditional approach to the game. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1952 "2009-05-27T03:18:02Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > I think this method may not work as well for\*\* peeker\*\* as it might for someone with a more, um, traditional approach to the game. Good point here **fish**. We should never forget what someone has done in the past, when we thrust their play into future events. I’m curious **Peeker** , what is your win loss ratio? Is their a method to this madness? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1953 "2009-05-27T03:29:12Z")
> [@](#): > > I wonder if someone isn’t try to ell me the wrong time. I mean, when day is over with. > > It would be over the top scummy of them if they do. It would be a very foolish scum indeed who tried a lie that obvious. [Straight from the horse’s mouth:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11173307&postcount=1828) > [@](#): > > It is Night 4. Due to airplanes and time zones, the night length will be extended to 1:00 Wedensday MDT. ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1954 "2009-05-27T04:37:14Z")
Jesus… I’ve lost all track of this game because it seems to have forgotten that Days and Nights end at some point. Are we on Day still? Did I miss something? I keep checking in to find a Dusk post and haven’t seen one… This is why I prefer different threads for each Day and Night. Much easier to tell when the Day or Night ends. As it is now I drown in Meeko posts everytime I come here to see if I can locate a single scarce post by Pedescribe… ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1955 "2009-05-27T04:42:18Z")
Dusk post is number [1828.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11173307&postcount=1828) We’re in Night 4 right now and it ends Wednesday at some time that I’ll be at work. I haven’t bothered to figure it out more exactly. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1956 "2009-05-27T05:13:58Z")
Since **Rysto** has jumped ahead so far in the latest version of my post-analysis numbers, I thought I’d look over his history (spoilered for space): [spoiler] [360:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11098972#post11098972) Subs in for SirDirx. Favors O over E. Worried about Sinner tells, because you don’t know when changed sides. Doesn’t fear scum night-actions. Reminder that with three factions, anti-one scum faction not necessarily pro-town. [361:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11098979#post11098979) Won’t be able to participate much. [366:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11099112#post11099112) Votes O paul for scaremongering about what-ifs concerning O vs. E. [367:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11099115&postcount=367) NETA [373:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11099267#post11099267) Game would be imbalanced if all lynch methods hurt Town [391:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11100475#post11100475) Criticizes paul’s theory that Town isn’t meant to win [415:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11101378#post11101378) Points out to paul that the Day ended [424:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11101459#post11101459) Points out to Meeko that staying alive isn’t the goal; team winning is [450:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11102220#post11102220) Agrees with special ed that Thing Fish might be gloating [452:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11102409#post11102409) Explains an acronym [456:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11102797#post11102797) Fluff [465:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11104338#post11104338) Encourages Meeko to speak his mind now, lest he be silenced [479:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11105079#post11105079) We can’t beat Sinners by executing, if Sinfected convert [480:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11105086#post11105086) NETA [507:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11107899#post11107899) Comments on Telcontar’s role [511:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11107934#post11107934) Telcontar appears to have been pure [526:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11107934#post11107934) Brief scenario counterexample to a Meeko question [529:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11108156#post11108156) Explanation of terminology [561:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11109352#post11109352) Sees no downside in Sinfected player claiming [568:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11109655#post11109655) Comments on vote-buy mechanic [571:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11109691#post11109691) Comments on Meeko’s reckoning of “overall score” [574:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11109794#post11109794) Comments on paul’s talk of Sinner recruitment [579:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11110169#post11110169) Executing Sinner same as ostracizing Town, from Sinner POV [590:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11111065#post11111065) Counterproductive to speculate too much on Telcontar’s death [597:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11111177#post11111177) Fluffy comment on pede’s removal of execution [652:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11112731#post11112731) Requests clarification of Sinner wincon [657:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11113195#post11113195) Rethinks idea of Sinfected claiming [686:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11114167#post11114167) Further comment on removal of execution [689:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11114186#post11114186) Yet more on removal of execution [723:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11114480#post11114480) Disbelieves paul’s roleclaim, votes paul [730:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11114530#post11114530) Clarifies talk of sinfection, suspects paul is a sinner [733:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11114592#post11114592) Further discussion of mechanics of sinffection [758:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11114807#post11114807) Quotes pede clarifying sinfection mechanics [768:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11114980#post11114980) Another question to pede about Sinfection [835:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11116966#post11116966) Clarification of terminology [836:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11116977#post11116977) NETA [853:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11117835#post11117835) Comment on board custom [873:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11118236#post11118236) Asks ed what a busybody is [883:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11118365#post11118365) Following Meeko’s speculation on roles (spec. Rev. Dimmesdale) [919:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11119327#post11119327) Reiterates vote for paul [942:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11120616#post11120616) How to generate trusted random lists [943:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11120627#post11120627) Reminder that paul might not be truthful [971:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11122478#post11122478) Comment on game setup [984:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11123155#post11123155) Lambasts Pinkies for not saying anything until 2 hours before end of Day [986:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11123166#post11123166) Corrected on when day ends [994:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11123598#post11123598) Explaining disinfection plan to Angel [1003:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11124141#post11124141) Clearing Angel up on what Day it is [1052:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11125737#post11125737) Reconsiders opinion of paul given Pinkies lynch [1055:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11125821#post11125821) Reminded that paul’s vote was bought, back to suspecting him [1063:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11126554#post11126554) Points Mahaloth to Day 2 final vote [1089:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11132208#post11132208) Learns that paul wasn’t sinner, after all [1107:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11132988#post11132988) pede has pulled traitor mason trick before [1127:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11134298#post11134298) Recommends to Meeko not to tell when protected [1167:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11136191#post11136191) Points out existence of doctor role, since Meeko protected [1212:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11138379#post11138379) Defends against Angel’s mistaken vote [1214:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11138483#post11138483) More defense [1236:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11139815#post11139815) Tells peeker about execute being removed [1246:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11140105#post11140105) Speaks out against edits, might catch Scum slips [1377:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11147184#post11147184) Thinks subs are least bad solution (after paul subs Angel) [1388:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11147305#post11147305) Tells Meeko about implications of mass claim [1399:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11148789#post11148789) Doesn’t think Angel can be impure, votes Thing Fish based on Day-1 “gloat”, smudge of Freudian [1402:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11148821#post11148821) Comment on game rules [1434:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11150213#post11150213) Explanation of terminology [1446:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11150749#post11150749) Clarifies reason for having voted paul [1460:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11151172#post11151172) Reminds paul he’s dead [1477:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11152595#post11152595) Reminds peeker it’s night (after peeker tried to vote) [1560:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11156356#post11156356) Mechanics of night actions [1581:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11157462#post11157462) Explanation of terminology (gastard) [1586:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11157855#post11157855) Further on gastard [1607:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11161336#post11161336) Compares paul to dotchan [1617:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11161899#post11161899) Discusses politician role in previous game [1625:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11161985#post11161985) Further on previous game with politician [1635:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11162234#post11162234) Suspects politician is Town, speculates on why BillMC was Sinfected [1640:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11162314#post11162314) Accuses paul3 of fishing [1646:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11162420#post11162420) Says that peeker being anti-Town isn’t enough reason to vote him, since it doesn’t make sense for Scum, either [1648:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11162492#post11162492) “Not helpful to town” is not equivalent to “helpful to scum”. [1698:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11164452#post11164452) Doesn’t make sense for peeker to jump on odd phrasing by Mahaloth [1766:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11169935#post11169935) Agrees with Chronos that Blackhearts are close to winning, sinner is effectively mislynch [1767:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11170055#post11170055) Asks peeker for specifics on Mahaloth [1792:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11171236#post11171236) Comments on Chronos’ analysis [1795:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11171417#post11171417) Further on Chronos’ analysis [1799:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11171576#post11171576) Further criticism of Chronos’ analysis [1809:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11172517#post11172517) Re-reads, criticizes Mahaloth for Day 1 behaviour [1810:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11172520#post11172520) NETA votes Mahaloth [1823:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11173163#post11173163) Explanation of forbidden thread [1833:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11173398#post11173398) Clarification of end of Day [1926:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11178295#post11178295) Recommends Meeko wait to post claim-order list [1944:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11181086#post11181086) Points out he’s not the lurkiest [1946:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11181167#post11181167) Clarification of above[/spoiler] Analysis after the break ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1957 "2009-05-27T05:23:48Z")
**Rysto** has had a total of 89 posts to this thread. Out of those, approximately a third are concerned with Sin and Sinners (how they work, who he suspects is a Sinner, etc.). Another third of his posts are miscellaneous little things, about the general workings of Mafia games, explanations of terminology, clarifications of rules, etc., that are at least superficially helpful in general, but don’t really help much in the specific. The final third of his posts are largely taken up by fluff, NETAs, discussion of the vote-buying mechanic (which apparently stung him pretty badly in a previous game), discussion of my analysis methods, etc. He doesn’t say one thing about Blackhearts, or take one step towards finding them, until this past Day. I think this all looks quite consistent with the hypothesis that **Rysto** is a Blackheart. The general-but-not-specific little helpful hints are a time-honored Scum tactic for looking more Townish, and a Blackheart in a three-faction game like this one could also build Town cred (while also helping his own team) by taking an active role in attempting to hunt Sinners. But a Blackheart would naturally not want to hurt Blackhearts more than was necessary. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1958 "2009-05-27T05:34:27Z")
There is no recourse if Pede is late tommorow, is there? ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1959 "2009-05-27T07:07:33Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > There is no recourse if Pede is late tommorow, is there? :dubious: What like if he’s 10 minutes late class is canceled? No… we just wait until he posts the Dawn post and then carry on. ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1960 "2009-05-27T07:09:18Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Dusk post is number [1828.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11173307&postcount=1828) We’re in Night 4 right now and it ends Wednesday at some time that I’ll be at work. I haven’t bothered to figure it out more exactly. Thanks IS… I completely missed that I had thought we were still on Day 4. 😛 The “discussion” in what I now know is Night 4 makes more sense now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=97) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271.md?page=99)