# The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271 "2009-04-24T22:16:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 99
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1961 "2009-05-27T15:15:10Z")
It’s a tad too quiet here. Perhaps it is just me hearing my death approach. Perhaps. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1962 "2009-05-27T15:16:16Z")
Out of curiosity, can someone post a link to the very first SDMB Mafia game? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1963 "2009-05-27T15:25:28Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > It’s a tad too quiet here. > > Perhaps it is just me hearing my death approach. > > Perhaps. ☹ I think we’re just “talked out” for one Night. You can see why most nights are shorter than this. 🙂 I’m sure once Day hits, things will be going again. > [@Meeko](#): > > Out of curiosity, can someone post a link to the very first SDMB Mafia game? Yeesh, I can’t find it. Just search “mafia” in the search engine and you can find some rather old ones. The Split just ended before this game began and was a more standard example. I and a few others from this game were in that too. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1964 "2009-05-27T15:29:28Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Well, that’s interesting. I understand what you’re saying, but given that he hasn’t actually come all that close to being lynched, I am guessing that at least some of those votes going both ways may have been face-saving votes (especially when **peeker** first came in and was throwing votes around willy-nilly. IOW, I think this method may not work as well for\*\* peeker\*\* as it might for someone with a more, um, traditional approach to the game. most excellent. come up with a scenario and then toss out anomolies based on willy nilly. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1965 "2009-05-27T15:29:40Z")
You can’t find it because it was called Werewolf. [Ah, the good old days](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=407197). By the way, [the wiki](http://mafiagameswiki.com/mafiaWiki/Gaming_History) should have a link to every game we’ve every played. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1966 "2009-05-27T15:31:06Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > :dubious: What like if he’s 10 minutes late class is canceled? Something like that. Strictly on a factual basis, there is nothing to guarantee that the sun will come up on time. (Such that it is.) ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1967 "2009-05-27T15:33:02Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Good point here **fish**. We should never forget what someone has done in the past, when we thrust their play into future events. > > I’m curious **Peeker** , what is your win loss ratio? Is their a method to this madness? i run at 70 plus or so. and if you look at deep into games it’s a hell of a lot higher. and the method is to have your team win. helps the percentages a bunch. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1968 "2009-05-27T15:41:31Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > As it is now I drown in Meeko posts everytime I come here I am working on the quality of my posts. I just recently woke up to what really goes on in these games. I realize the mistakes I have made. Re-reading the posts, there was a lot that wooshed me. There was a LOT that I simply didn’t even read. [Too busy going my own way, I guess.] But, I am getting to my Eulogy too soon. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1969 "2009-05-27T15:58:01Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > You can’t find it because it was called Werewolf. [Ah, the good old days](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=407197). > > By the way, [the wiki](http://mafiagameswiki.com/mafiaWiki/Gaming_History) should have a link to every game we’ve every played. > [@Werewolf - a game.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-a-game/390997/17): > > I’ll play. > > [rysto32@hotmail.com](mailto:rysto32@hotmail.com) I see how it is Rysto. Woo Hoo! on me figuring out how to do the multiple thread posting too. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1970 "2009-05-27T16:06:28Z")
Heh. I wonder what I would be like in Doperball. Oh, and Chronos, you can’t comment on my post volume ever again. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1971 "2009-05-27T17:46:41Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > i run at 70 plus or so. and if you look at deep into games it’s a hell of a lot higher. > > and the method is to have your team win. helps the percentages a bunch. Right. **peeker** is an awesome Mafia player. I think most anyone else would find it impossible to copy his style (for one thing, they’d likely die of alcohol poisoning), but it works really well for him. He lurks in plain sight and it’s hard to lynch him because everyone says “Oh, that’s just **peeker** ”. But when he’s Town, he does come up with good pro-Town ideas which he manages to express in a comprehensible manner. The fact that he hasn’t been doing that this game, combined with the dubious behavior of the player he replaced, makes me think he probably isn’t Town. Oh, yeah, that reminds me…probably best to mention this now in case I don’t survive the night. Back when **peekytoe** first entered the game, he made some reference to how trying to catch up was like reading Christie while taking notes. In the first game I ever played, he made a few similar comments, dropping the names of famous fictional detectives into his posts. He later claimed Detective and pointed to these as “breadcrumbs”. In fact, he was scum, and his false claim led directly to his team winning. Just thought I would mention that in case he has the same gambit in mind. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1972 "2009-05-27T18:11:02Z")
Reminder, less than an hour left before Dawn. If you’re planning on posting anything before then (_coughMeekocough_), now’s the time. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1973 "2009-05-27T18:30:08Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Reminder, less than an hour left before Dawn. If you’re planning on posting anything before then (_coughMeekocough_), now’s the time. I am aware of the time. I need to strike a delicate balance on when to do this. But, Chronos, if you are ready for my post, I guess I can let you have it. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1974 "2009-05-27T18:31:29Z")
It would seem that this is my death. I have a few words before I leave you. lease read this ven if veryone an not comprend. ventually you I have prepared this statement in advance. I am only posting it now. will ecognize what I am doing. hen you ll isten with aution, I have had many versions of what my last post was going to be. nergize your esponse. Ust be sure you bserve verything ou see. But, after scrutiny, this post seems to be the best option for Town, Meeko, and Mafia in general. lan accordingly. The roblem lways nderstands, earn from it.The Time was always against me in this game. I intend to make it work for me now. roblem lways nderstands, earn from it.The roblem lways nderstands, Let me take the time here, to reflect on what I have learned in this game. First, on playing the game: earn from it.The thing is this, ind out and nvestigate, eek elp. The better players look beyond what players are saying. They get behind the words. dentifty ew otifications veryone ecognizes and stick with them. But, the players can only take the game so far. The context in which we meet must go further. ecall what ou ee ranslate everything mitted. aster ll inderence The color in game was hard to get at first. Soon enough, we all figured out how it would be used. and nalyze eading bservations - hey elp too. Even in my death, Sinners and Blackhearts were always the farthest out from me. onsider the idden, ework the bfuscation, evermind the rganized At last, my time draws to a close. but allow me one final comment: tandards .Ironically, y ccentric xacerbation an nly help. Mark my words, Town will turn this game around. -Meeko Who figures he could keep going on and on, but at some point, he must trust that his actions will live on after he does. You guys have a lot of things left to digest in this game. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1975 "2009-05-27T18:41:28Z")
Chronos, I want to be clear, that was what you were talking about, correct? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1976 "2009-05-27T18:57:09Z")
This game has been real fun gang. Can’t wait till I get to try it again. Peeker, Mahaloth, you guys will revieve a pm from AFTER this game is offically over. Questions and explanations, and perhaps you guys will get both. If you guys see Hansel and Gretel, tell them to respond to my Eulogy. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1977 "2009-05-27T19:00:28Z")
It was an uneasy night. The sounds of the wicked rang through the town, and the recent meteor shower played toward everyone’s fears. It shone over the founder’s house, where everyone was gathered. There sat John Winthrop, clammy, gasping for breath. He was treated with herbs; he was treated with prayer. He never had a chance. The poison saw to that. The town left, shaken, at sunrise. Perhaps they could still fix things. Chronos, a.k.a. John Winthrop (Governor/Politician), is dead. Day 5. Day ends Monday 1:00 PM MDT. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1978 "2009-05-27T19:01:27Z")
I knew it. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1979 "2009-05-27T19:02:31Z")
Chronos was breadcrumbing that just a TAD too much. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/1980 "2009-05-27T19:03:51Z")
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