# The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271 "2009-04-24T22:16:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 2074
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271/2074 "2009-05-28T16:39:51Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Oh boy. This is going to get messy. I removed the parts of your quote I am not going to use. Hopefully, as I kept paragraphs, the context remains. > > I will address each paragraph in turn. > > 1._““The evidence for this comes in the form of a breadcrumb, revolving around the phrase “slightly healed feeling”.””_**[SIZE=“4”]No.[/SIZE]** It comes from the fact that Rysto said that he protected me deliberately set out to prove his claim by stating that he targeted me. It was not the breadcrumb, it was the fact that, what do you know, he IS a doctor. No. I don’t know that he is a Doc. If you can vouch for his schedule of protecting you Nights 2 and 4, then that shows he can “protect”. Against what, though? He could be a BH protecting people from sinfection, for example. So I do not know that he is a Doctor, not a traditional one at least. > [@](#): > > Remember, that Peeker was (apparently) protected the night after I was protected the first time. – My targeting was not back to back. Sure. So? > [@](#): > > 2.I was careful to point out that I know Rysto to be a Doctor. I went above and beyond that, to point out that I was still not sure of his allignment. We can guess at the numbers all day, but a Doctor is far better than a Half Detective / Half Sinner Bulletproof role. --If you were BH bulletproof, it would be different. Okay, again, how do you know he is a Doctor, and not some other role? If you wake up feeling slightly healed, that could mean anything. And no, generally Cops are more useful than Doctors. At least, according to this [widely agreed upon guide.](http://wiki.flyingcowofdoom.com/mafiaWiki/JSexton_Points) Throwing in some Scum immunity just sweetens the deal. > [@](#): > > – And I’m just ASSUMING you posted a correct PM there, Allwalker, I mean, I don’t get why you left out the Sinner Bulletproof clause. I am sure we could have used that a LOT earlier in the game. A LOT EARLIER. I would take a Doctor of unkown allignment, over a 50/50 confirmed editor of his Role PM. Because it wasn’t relevant. The focus of my role is the Cop part, not some passive protection. Besides, a Cop would be a tempting target for sinfection, and i they wasted a Night trying to convert me, then so much the better. However, when it became clear I needed to quote my Role PM, I did. If I were making it up, that would be a weird thing to omit in my claim, only to wack it in later. > [@](#): > > If you guys want to step in here, and help, PLEASE do. > Here is where it gets **REAL MESSY** : > > 3.A slightly healed feeling" by no means is proof of protection from the BH. > > This is a chocolate in my peanut butter, peanut butter in your chocolate situation.\*\*It is a question that cannot be asked.\*\*You are forcing apples and oranges here. You are mixing things up. > > \*\*The PM stating a healed feeling would NEVER exist, if we were to be targeted by BH. The fact that we can post “Healing feeling” the day after is Quasi-evidence we were ““protected”” from BH. \*\* > > Let’s think about this for a second. > > - > > Is it ever possible to die in your dreams? No, because no one would have known that you had a dream in which you died. \* > > Either you died in your sleep, or you did not. It will REMAIN anyone’s guess if you were dreaming > > Granted, the BH simply could have target someone else. But At the same time, Peeker and I are still alive. Your logic is strange. You are assuming Rysto’s Night protection protects against NK. Your proof? That you were protected during some Nights. You don’t know that you were targeted these Nights, you don’t know _who_ targeted you - Sinners or Blackheart - and you don’t know what the protection does. And I have a rock which keeps tigers away. It must work, I’ve never seen a tiger around here. > [@](#): > > What is to say that BH target more than one person a night? Yeah, I never said that. > [@](#): > > Allwalker, you might be town. But, you are trying everything in the book to confuse us here. _snort_ Okay, **Meeko** , I’ll bite. What have I said that, after reading my role claim carefully, and suspending the baseless assumption that Rysto is a Doc, isn’t completely consistent with logic? Oh pray tell, I need a laugh. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-crimson-glyph-werewolf-mafia-psychopath/494271)._