Guinastasia did not describe the woman as being a fundamentalist. There’s that almost total lack of reading comprehension biting you in the ass again.
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Thank you, Miller. And even if she isn’t a Fundamentalist, she could be a lower-case fundamentalist Coptic, in that her attitude towards her religion is extreme.
But as I was quoting you, I was referring to the fundies out there making a fuss on her behalf, not this woman herself.
[QUOTE=jjimm]
She is Coptic, but of the fundie kind by all appearances. She was on the radio earlier saying “people must hear The Truth!” and shit.
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I thought she likely was Coptic being half Egyptian, but heard no confirmation.
I’ve just heard a spittle-flecked rant by Anne Widdecombe on 5Live tonight. She’s boycotting BA, “political correctness gone mad!”, typical Daily Mail shit. Most of the other callers have been just as bad, reading from their Peter Hitchens/Melanie Philips hymn sheet. I’m sure that the producers select for controversy but fucks sake it’s depressing.
Most religious people I know are kind, do good works, love their neighbours, and do as they would be done by. Which I thought was the whole fucking point. This other fucking rabble of extremist throwbacks are a cancer on our society.
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]
um…no. How could you parse it so that it isn’t referring specifically to Parliament?
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I thought I could put that out there for the hell of it, but no one’s biting.
This is what I learned from you guys:
That this woman was trying to convert.
That this woman was a fundy.
That it is perfectly acceptable to deny a woman to wear a small Christian symbol but it is not acceptable to deny a Muslim woman to wear religious head gear.
That the Anglican heirarchy is fundamentalist
That wearing a cross means you’re trying to convert people.
That Britain has no constitution, (despite their constitutional experts) or that America’s constitution is better.
I’m not buying any of this bullshit. What this proves to me is that the lot of you responding in this thread are hateful towards Christians who want to openly wear a cross. Tell me all about equal rights and liberal compassion and your accusations of fundy/conservative/ christian hate , but it rings of hypocricy to me when this little old lady is smeared for wanting to wear a little token of her spirituality that WONT HURT ANYONE !
[QUOTE=The Flying Dutchman]
What this proves to me is that the lot of you responding in this thread are hateful towards Christians who want to openly wear a cross.
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Well, it is the only reasonable interpretation one can draw after reading the thread.
[QUOTE=Gary Kumquat]
You are a strangely angry little person.
Considering that you asked “Where are all you constitutional rights people ?”, why is it arrogant for people to point out the UK has no constitution?
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Mr. Bagehot would disagree.
Of course, trying to define the British constitution is like trying to sculpt in Jello under sun lamps.
[QUOTE=The Flying Dutchman]
…but it rings of hypocricy to me when this little old lady is smeared for wanting to wear a little token of her spirituality that WONT HURT ANYONE !
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What about vampires? Won’t somebody please think of the vampires?
[QUOTE=Giraffe]
Well, it is the only reasonable interpretation one can draw after reading the thread.
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Which, flyingdutchman (since I assume you’ll need help interpreting the meaning), is the witty way of saying: “You’re coming off like a goddamn fucking idiot.”
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]
This is about six different kinds of stupid.
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Maybe he knows that American dude who, back in early 2000, said to the Magistrate on Diego Garcia, “I refuse to answer. I’m claiming my rights under the Fifth Amendment.” Ah, I love watching Americans in courts overseas. It’s much cheaper than paying for comedy channels on satellite TV.
[QUOTE=Ravenman]
As I think I said before, if she’s using her time on the plane to witness to people in Business First, … It’s not like she’s complaining that BA is discriminating against her because she’s not allowed to handle snakes and speak in tongues while on the job.
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Now, change the scenario to her insisting on snake-handling, and make her a flight attendant, and you’d have a killer movie on your hands!
Oh, and cast Samuel L. Jackson as captain of the plane!
[QUOTE=The Flying Dutchman]
I thought I could put that out there for the hell of it, but no one’s biting.
This is what I learned from you guys:
That this woman was trying to convert.
That this woman was a fundy.
That it is perfectly acceptable to deny a woman to wear a small Christian symbol but it is not acceptable to deny a Muslim woman to wear religious head gear.
That the Anglican heirarchy is fundamentalist
That wearing a cross means you’re trying to convert people.
That Britain has no constitution, (despite their constitutional experts) or that America’s constitution is better.
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Sweet zombie Jesus, tell me this is a joke-you CANNOT be that fucking thick.
[QUOTE=The Flying Dutchman]
The hijab is not always required since there are plenty of Muslim women who do not wear it when not forced to. Besides, the practice of religion and spirituality are not confined to the dictates of groups, but quite often are a matter of individual conscience.
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It doesn’t matter that some Muslims cover their head and some don’t. Some Orthodox Jewish women cover their hair, but most Jewish women don’t. Some sects of Christianity are required to cover their hair, but most Christian women don’t belong to these particular sects. The fact that most don’t cover their head doesn’t negate the fact that some women believe that their religion requires their head to be covered.
As I said earler, a cross is an expression of religion…it is not a specific type of dress required for modesty reasons. If this Christian woman was required to cover her head by her religion (or wear some other kind of clothing for modesty reasons), but was not allowed to, then she would have a case for unfairness. Otherwise, I just don’t see it.
That this woman was trying to convert.
That this woman was a fundy.
That it is perfectly acceptable to deny a woman to wear a small Christian symbol but it is not acceptable to deny a Muslim woman to wear religious head gear.
That the Anglican heirarchy is fundamentalist
That wearing a cross means you’re trying to convert people.
That Britain has no constitution, (despite their constitutional experts) or that America’s constitution is better.
I’m not buying any of this bullshit. What this proves to me is that the lot of you responding in this thread are hateful towards Christians who want to openly wear a cross. Tell me all about equal rights and liberal compassion and your accusations of fundy/conservative/ christian hate , but it rings of hypocricy to me when this little old lady is smeared for wanting to wear a little token of her spirituality that WONT HURT ANYONE !
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This is what I ‘learned’ from you:
the cross is banned (it isn’t)
hijabs are only OK at Heathrow (not true)
stating that you must openly wear a religious symbol at work (despite a non-discrimatory ban) because it matters to you is not trying to convert people (it is)
Britain has a Constitution like the US (it doesn’t)
the right to say anything you like in the UK exists outside Parliament (it doesn’t)
wearing a little token of your spirituality doesn’t hurt (unless it’s Satanic!)
[QUOTE=Guinastasia]
Sweet zombie Jesus, tell me this is a joke-you CANNOT be that fucking thick.
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Wow, you’ve been on the board for six years and don’t think people can be that thick? I’ve gotten pretty jaded in just a year. It’s nice to see you still tend a little flame of hope though.
[QUOTE=The Flying Dutchman]
I’m not buying any of this bullshit. What this proves to me is that the lot of you responding in this thread are hateful towards Christians who want to openly wear a cross. Tell me all about equal rights and liberal compassion and your accusations of fundy/conservative/ christian hate , but it rings of hypocricy to me when this little old lady is smeared for wanting to wear a little token of her spirituality that WONT HURT ANYONE !
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Hey, Sarahfeena! How’s it feel to be a Christian-hating liberal?
[QUOTE=Miller]
Hey, Sarahfeena! How’s it feel to be a Christian-hating liberal?
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Oh, well, you know…when you get called that enough times, you get used to it.
[QUOTE=Walter Windchill]
Wow, you’ve been on the board for six years and don’t think people can be that thick? I’ve gotten pretty jaded in just a year. It’s nice to see you still tend a little flame of hope though.
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[QUOTE=Guinastasia]
Sweet zombie Jesus, tell me this is a joke-you CANNOT be that fucking thick.
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No, now this poor excuse for a used asswipe is not as thick as he appears, he’s a fucking TROLL. I’m through; he doesn’t deserve the oxygen he’s wasting right now.