# The Cruelty is the Point

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 3, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905 "2019-02-03T20:31:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905/1 "2019-02-03T20:31:54Z")

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The Cruelty is the Point. This article from The Atlantic explains everything about the Trump administration. They specifically are trying to be cruel to the rest of us.

> **[The Cruelty Is the Point](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/the-cruelty-is-the-point/572104/)**
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> Trump and his supporters find community by rejoicing in the suffering of those they hate and fear.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905/2 "2019-02-03T20:42:03Z")

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> [@suranyi](#):
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> The Cruelty is the Point. This article from The Atlantic explains everything about the Trump administration. They specifically are trying to be cruel to the rest of us.
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> [The Cruelty Is the Point - The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/the-cruelty-is-the-point/572104/)

The fucker gets OFF on it.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905/3 "2019-02-03T20:43:55Z")

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> [@suranyi](#):
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> The Cruelty is the Point.

But the waiting is the hardest part.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905/4 "2019-02-03T20:51:47Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> The fucker gets OFF on it.

Trump would be a natural as a Pit poster.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905/5 "2019-02-03T20:56:38Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Trump would be a natural as a Pit **poster**.

Target.

He couldn’t insult his way out of the first grade. And I know some kindergartners who could give him a run for his imaginary money.

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**Author:** ![DorkVader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@DorkVader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DorkVader)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905/6 "2019-02-03T23:07:56Z")

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God that shit sack makes me feel ashamed. Fuck me in the goat ass if we don’t vote him and his ilk out of office as soonest as can be.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905/7 "2019-02-03T23:59:16Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Target.
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> He couldn’t insult his way out of the first grade. And I know some kindergartners who could give him a run for his imaginary money.

He would get his ass kicked.

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905/8 "2019-02-04T00:07:39Z")

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I have always seen Trump as the ends justify the means type of guy, but his followers are disgustingly gleeful of the suffering trump has caused, and those are Trump’s base. So Trump doesn’t care of the suffering he causes, but his base rejoices over it. It’s a very scary combination.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905/9 "2019-02-04T02:13:56Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> I have always seen Trump as the ends justify the means type of guy, but his followers are disgustingly gleeful of the suffering trump has caused, and those are Trump’s base. So Trump doesn’t care of the suffering he causes, but his base rejoices over it. It’s a very scary combination.

Tan the Conman does not care about the ends. All he cares about is what generates the most adulation for him _now_. He really is that simple-minded. Long-range planning is as foreign to him as decency. It takes a working human brain to plan long-term.

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905/10 "2019-02-04T02:24:07Z")

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Sledgehammer to his junk.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905/11 "2019-02-04T02:43:13Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> I have always seen Trump as the ends justify the means type of guy, but his followers are disgustingly gleeful of the suffering trump has caused, and those are Trump’s base. So Trump doesn’t care of the suffering he causes, but his base rejoices over it. It’s a very scary combination.

He enjoys it too. He gives people insulting names. He dangles job offers only to yank them away. He locks up babies and then blames THEM. He tries to cover up a brutal murder by the Saudis who help line his pockets. He hires workers and contractors and refuses to pay them, even though he already made stupid money off the projects, forcing them to go broke.

He reeks of cruelty. He enjoys it. He deliberately set up his “deals” to maximize the fallout.

Someone should have put him in the foundation concrete of one of his buildings long ago.

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**Author:** ![Mona\_Lott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee7513/32.png) [@Mona\_Lott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mona_Lott)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905/12 "2019-02-04T02:52:13Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> Sledgehammer to his junk.

Overkill. Use a tack hammer.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905/13 "2019-02-04T03:22:14Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> The fucker gets OFF on it.

Not the fucker, but the fuckers - plural.

The people who voted for Trump like it when others suffer, because it makes them feel superior.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905/14 "2019-02-04T03:23:19Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> He enjoys it too. He gives people insulting names. He dangles job offers only to yank them away. He locks up babies and then blames THEM. He tries to cover up a brutal murder by the Saudis who help line his pockets. He hires workers and contractors and refuses to pay them, even though he already made stupid money off the projects, forcing them to go broke.
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> He reeks of cruelty. He enjoys it. He deliberately set up his “deals” to maximize the fallout.
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> Someone should have put him in the foundation concrete of one of his buildings long ago.

Trump voters enjoy it. They love your pain, which is why we cannot just forgive and forget the next time around. Pain must be inflicted.

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905/15 "2019-02-04T04:12:33Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Trump voters enjoy it. They love your pain, which is why we cannot just forgive and forget the next time around. Pain must be inflicted.

You don’t defeat them by turning into them. You defeat them by your leadership. Take the lead.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905/16 "2019-02-04T05:36:57Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Trump voters enjoy it. They love your pain, which is why we cannot just forgive and forget the next time around. Pain must be inflicted.

Two stupids don’t make a smart.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905/17 "2019-02-04T05:38:28Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> But the waiting is the hardest part.

But Folger’s in your cup?

That’s the best part of waking up.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905/18 "2019-02-04T07:35:02Z")

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Sunshine on my shoulder makes me happy.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905/19 "2019-02-04T08:28:39Z")

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My brother-in-law is one of those racist assholes supporting Trump.

America really isn’t the pretty country it pretends to be.

There are tens of millions of those fuckers and the only good the Trump presidency had done is to demonstrate how racist a large percentage of America is.

Fuck ‘um all.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cruelty-is-the-point/828905/20 "2019-02-04T10:11:21Z")

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This is what I’ve been trying to get across when I talk about how Trump is actually evil. And it is my problem with Trump supporters. Not those who voted for him, but supporters. They support the cruelty. Every person I knew who actively supported Trump supported his cruelty, as long as it was directed towards people they hate.

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