# The cult of Bohemian Grove

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 9, 2015, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211 "2015-02-09T13:31:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/201 "2015-02-10T13:02:58Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> My pastor baptized an infant “Lilith.” What the hell do they teach in Lutheran seminaries? A Catholic priest would never do that because they are TAUGHT about demons and shit so they can name them and thus gain control over them in exorcisms.

Catholic church has more in common with this old cults than you can imagine

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**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/202 "2015-02-10T13:05:28Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> I have a theory that Satan creates Conspiracy Theories to confuse the Faithful and cause them to waste time and effort chasing fantasies instead of doing God’s work on Earth. This has the side effect of making the Faithful look silly or stupid to those whose faith is dormant or wavering.
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> My only experience with Brazil was a short time in Rio, and I can say that the injunction to “clothe the naked” is sadly neglected there.

well, its very hot there. would be very dumb to not use less clothes. but if you had gone to São Paulo you would see a city like something that you must be familiar.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/203 "2015-02-10T13:10:01Z")

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> [@spyderkill](#):
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> Catholic church has more in common with this old cults than you can imagine

Based on what you’ve presented in this thread, the main thing they have in common is that you know very little about either one.

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**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/204 "2015-02-10T13:19:46Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> You know that literally nothing you’ve posted here comes from the Bible, right? .

In portuguese

Isaías 14:12-14; Ezequiel 28:12-15

Apocalipse 12:7-9

Efésios 6:10-12

Daniel 10.12-13; Efesios 6.12

The spiritual warfare is from the bible. This is what i said before, only this. The rest came from a lot of sources, yes. So your accusation make no sense.

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**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/205 "2015-02-10T13:41:16Z")

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Are you actually a Christian? Or are you still in “just think of it as an episode of _Game Of Thrones_” mode?

I swore I’d abandon this fucking thread, but here I am…

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**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/206 "2015-02-10T14:00:49Z")

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> [@Steken](#):
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> Are you actually a Christian? Or are you still in “just think of it as an episode of _Game Of Thrones_” mode?
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> I swore I’d abandon this fucking thread, but here I am…

it’s just a lot of speculation wich can’t be prof, if that’s does’t figure in your interest you should abandon it.

A Christian is somebody that believe that Jesus came in the earth and is the son of God. So i’m a Christian. But i’m not in any religion cult or something like that. It’s a Game of Thrones mode because it’s a lot of things that are on the internet, and can’t be prof, it’s really a lot of crazy things.

This world has a lot of different religions, we have not a complete understand about how we came here and what we’re doing, we have just a little evidences and tries of explanations, we have no consensus. So if a man came out with this type of ideas, i’m curious about that. As a lot of people here, they keep saying this is a bullshit, but they keep coming here.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/207 "2015-02-10T15:03:15Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> My only experience with Brazil was a short time in Rio, and I can say that the injunction to “clothe the naked” is sadly neglected there.

You have a funny definition of “sadly”, if the TV shows I’ve seen about Brazilian beaches are any indication.

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**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/208 "2015-02-10T15:11:17Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> You have a funny definition of “sadly”, if the TV shows I’ve seen about Brazilian beaches are any indication.

Come on man, are you from EUA? In my TV you’re eating a burger and buying things that you don’t need all day long, so don’t come with this common sense.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/209 "2015-02-10T15:22:10Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> It’s like someone deeply believing that they can someday be a Jedi, because nobody ever told them that Star Wars was a work of fiction.

Wait, what? DAMMIT.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/210 "2015-02-10T15:24:56Z")

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I remember back in college I stayed in a rooming house. One time we found a dead junebug. We tied it to a string and hung it from the kitchen ceiling and called it Herman. We decided Herman was a god, and we came up with commandments and bible verses and pinned them on the corkboard.

Why did we do it? No reason. Just to entertain ourselves. Anybody from the outside would have thought we were just bored slackers instead of a weird cult, unless they were purposely looking for any hint of malice to liven up their own sense of moral outrage.

That’s what this Bohemian Grove is. It’s just a way to escape the “normal” way of life and let your hair down. Instead of a dead bug, they have a 40-ft owl. Don’t be so scared of things that don’t make sense to you.

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**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/211 "2015-02-10T15:25:20Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> You have a funny definition of “sadly”, if the TV shows I’ve seen about Brazilian beaches are any indication.

They aren’t. My most lasting memory of Rio is fat guys in Speedos.

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**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/212 "2015-02-10T15:42:58Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> I remember back in college I stayed in a rooming house. One time we found a dead junebug. We tied it to a string and hung it from the kitchen ceiling and called it Herman. We decided Herman was a god, and we came up with commandments and bible verses and pinned them on the corkboard.
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> Why did we do it? No reason. Just to entertain ourselves. Anybody from the outside would have thought we were just bored slackers instead of a weird cult, unless they were purposely looking for any hint of malice to liven up their own sense of moral outrage.
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> That’s what this Bohemian Grove is. It’s just a way to escape the “normal” way of life and let your hair down. Instead of a dead bug, they have a 40-ft owl. Don’t be so scared of things that don’t make sense to you.

This is based in a self oppinion that you have. So i have mine.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/213 "2015-02-10T15:59:54Z")

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> [@j666](#):
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> And there you put your finger on the real problem with most conspiracy theories - they assume the powerful collude in camera.

Like, what’s wrong with an email?

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/214 "2015-02-10T16:03:25Z")

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> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#):
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> They aren’t. My most lasting memory of Rio is fat guys in Speedos.

Booo… ☹

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/215 "2015-02-10T16:07:22Z")

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> [@spyderkill](#):
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> Ahhh let’s just have sex and pee in the woods. FUCK THE OWL

He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you. And when you fuck the owl, the owl fucks you back.

DO NOT FUCK THE OWL. You have been warned. And stay the fuck out of my grove while you’re at it, I’ve nations to conquer.

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**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/216 "2015-02-10T16:36:31Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you. And when you fuck the owl, the owl fucks you back.
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> DO NOT FUCK THE OWL. You have been warned. And stay the fuck out of my grove while you’re at it, I’ve nations to conquer.

Fuck me back? A owl with 12 meters? I’m gonna get out of here, sorry.

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**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/217 "2015-02-10T16:58:35Z")

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All of you have been told. Once you die, there’s no turning back. The Big Owl gonna fuck you all every day and forever. And you gonna remember this day, when the truth came to you and you didn’t listen.  
Peace.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/218 "2015-02-10T17:40:50Z")

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> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#):
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> They aren’t. My most lasting memory of Rio is fat guys in Speedos.

Damn, why don’t we have a :sexy: smilie?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/219 "2015-02-10T17:49:05Z")

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You _always_ have a sexy smile, **Drunky**.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/220 "2015-02-10T18:14:05Z")

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> [@spyderkill](#):
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> All of you have been told. Once you die, there’s no turning back. The Big Owl gonna fuck you all every day and forever. And you gonna remember this day, when the truth came to you and you didn’t listen.  
> Peace.

What if we just don’t give a hoot?

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