# The cult of Bohemian Grove **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 9, 2015, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211 "2015-02-09T13:31:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/281 "2015-02-11T23:15:56Z")
potahto ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/282 "2015-02-11T23:21:54Z")
Thread has been called on account of a difference of pronunciation. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/283 "2015-02-12T00:07:33Z")
Oh my GOD, I just realized something. Harry Potter had a pet owl. Their tests were called O.W.L.s. Do you realize what this means??? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/284 "2015-02-12T00:26:05Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Oh my GOD, I just realized something. > > Harry Potter had a pet owl. > Their tests were called O.W.L.s. > > Do you realize what this means??? :eek: that you are the owl, of course. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/285 "2015-02-12T00:49:41Z")
> [@spyderkill](#): > > that you are the owl, of course. See, clever snark like this is what makes me doubt you are the middle-school whiz kid you claim to be. Or you may be whizzer than I thought. > [@Kimballkid](#): > > Can I have it? > > (I’m 1/4 Bohemian so I’m Bohunkier than you.) No, I need it so I can call people Bohunks. Wife, who is partly Polish, was helping an Hispanic friend with his vocabulary. The fellow couldn’t find an English adjective to describe a form of decorating that was run-down, thrown-together indifferently, and gaudy, all at the same time. “Oh,” she offered, “You mean ‘Polaky.’” ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/286 "2015-02-12T01:01:11Z")
> [@spyderkill](#): > > that you are the owl, of course. Goo goo Ga joop ---
**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/287 "2015-02-12T01:01:35Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > See, clever snark like this is what makes me doubt you are the middle-school whiz kid you claim to be. Or you may be whizzer than I thought Maybe i’m a owl with 13 years old and 1.5 meters, trying to make people mad and kill this 12 meters owl that live in california because i’m jealous. Who can really say? Why can’t i be famous too? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/288 "2015-02-12T01:03:56Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > Goo goo Ga joop Are you summoning a demon? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/289 "2015-02-12T01:06:53Z")
> [@spyderkill](#): > > … One more angry man can feed the owl a little more faster… What about a Worried Man? [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XkkxFIojAFY/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AHeA4AC8AKKAgwIABABGGUgWChPMA8=&rs=AOn4CLBv2V7aRl4S_szE4ZTHM0OBliBKnA "Worried Man Devo 1979") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkkxFIojAFY) ---
**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/290 "2015-02-12T01:07:44Z")
Now, seriously, what do you think about these declarations? Ok, they are out of context, but they are strange. And they are real, just make a research. [http://www.a-voice.org/discern/rockmed.htm](http://www.a-voice.org/discern/rockmed.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/291 "2015-02-12T01:22:24Z")
> [@spyderkill](#): > > Now, seriously, what do you think about these declarations? Ok, they are out of context, but they are strange. And they are real, just make a research. > > [http://www.a-voice.org/discern/rockmed.htm](http://www.a-voice.org/discern/rockmed.htm) And most of the names are misspelled and taken out of context. (Springsteen) I own a copy of Hammer Of the Gods. Exactly what part of the passage with Robert Plane & Jimmy Page led you to believe the lyrics and/or music for “Stairway to Heaven” came from an evil demon? More to the point, why do you insist on believing in demons? Is it your flimsy and unnecessary religious studies? If so, why did you pick a religion to believe in the first place? It is certainly not a requirement for survival. ---
**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/292 "2015-02-12T01:38:32Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > And most of the names are misspelled and taken out of context. (Springsteen) > > I own a copy of Hammer Of the Gods. Exactly what part of the passage with Robert Plane & Jimmy Page led you to believe the lyrics and/or music for “Stairway to Heaven” came from an evil demon? > > More to the point, why do you insist on believing in demons? Is it your flimsy and unnecessary religious studies? If so, why did you pick a religion to believe in the first place? It is certainly not a requirement for survival. Don’t you have something that is useless but anyway you still doing? Just because you want to do? Unnecessary for me is what you do, what i do is necessary for me and you can’t judge that. Everytime that something doesn’t fit ok, people talk about context… But you must accept that they told this in interviews. This is a fact. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/293 "2015-02-12T02:31:50Z")
> [@spyderkill](#): > > Everytime that something doesn’t fit ok, people talk about context… But you must accept that they told this in interviews. This is a fact. It is certainly a fact that a lot of idiots spout a lot of nonsense and that the internet has provided a forum for more idiots than ever before in world history to get their silly ideas out in front of larger audiences than ever before. So, what’s your point? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/294 "2015-02-12T02:46:36Z")
> [@spyderkill](#): > > Are you summoning a demon? Classic **spyderkill**. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/295 "2015-02-12T03:40:14Z")
> [@spyderkill](#): > > Maybe i’m a owl with 13 years old and 1.5 meters, trying to make people mad and kill this 12 meters owl that live in california because i’m jealous. Who can really say? > > Why can’t i be famous too? 😕 No reason, but if you don’t find yourself another path you’ll be famous the way Alex Jones is famous. Don’t be that guy. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/296 "2015-02-12T04:23:19Z")
> [@spyderkill](#): > > Now, seriously, what do you think about these declarations? Ok, they are out of context, but they are strange. And they are real, just make a research. > > [http://www.a-voice.org/discern/rockmed.htm](http://www.a-voice.org/discern/rockmed.htm) I don’t think it’s particularly strange. I think it’s part of creating art. The old word for it was “enthusiasm” or “inspiration”, and a lot of ancient peoples thought it came from god or the gods. Sometimes, when you’re creating, when you’re writing or drawing or speaking or whatever, what to do just comes to you. It seems totally outside of your control…the idea just seems to pop into your head. It’s part of the creative process. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/297 "2015-02-12T05:00:08Z")
I called Alex Jones on business once. Or tried to. He had recorded all of the messages for the voicemail tree, without saying it was him, but implying his company had hired a professional announcer and had many different departments. But all paths led to a single general voicemail. Kinda sad, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/298 "2015-02-12T06:37:40Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > _checks to make sure this is the pit_ > > Oh good. > > Dude, what the fuck are you looking for here? Your conspiracy theories are incredibly lame, and have no connection to reality; we haven’t had a new poster quite so insane and persistent since, uh… **kanicbird**? Of course, **kanic** had the good sense not to call us idiots. You, sir, did not. So let’s make this clear. Your standards of evidence are abysmal, you believe sources with absolutely no valid backing. Collective evolution? What the fuck is wrong with you? That site has about the validity of Whale.to! Take your stupid fucking bullshit and _GTFO!_ He’s 13. At one time so was I. I read about UFOs, the Loch Ness Monster and the Bermuda Triangle. I didn’t exactly believe in that stuff, though I did think there was a controversy. But there really wasn’t. The evidence for each was pretty flimsy really, though the books I read made a show of weighing evidence. That’s what I didn’t grasp: after a certain point, certain positions shouldn’t be taken too seriously. My problems was that I frankly lacked the knowledge to dive into other areas or discern the silly from the controversial. Admittedly, I was also somewhat amused. spyderkill - [This article covers matters](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2931/do-u-s-leaders-perform-satanic-rituals-at-bohemian-grove). Also LaVey is about as much of a Satanist as [P.T. Barnum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._T._Barnum), the circus sideshow promoter. > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > No reason, but if you don’t find yourself another path you’ll be famous the way Alex Jones is famous. Don’t be that guy. One alternative to the woo: > **[About CosmoQuest - CosmoQuest](https://cosmoquest.org/x/about-cosmoquest/)** > > \[et\_pb\_section fb\_built=”1″ admin\_label=”section” \_builder\_version=”3.22″ global\_colors\_info=”{}”\]\[et\_pb\_row admin\_label=”row” \_builder\_version=”3.25″ background\_size=”initial” background\_position=”top\_left” background\_repeat=”repeat”... ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/299 "2015-02-12T06:50:23Z")
I don’t get why the wealthy and powerful need secret cabals to run the world. They do it just fine openly in their day jobs. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/300 "2015-02-12T07:19:43Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > I don’t get why the wealthy and powerful need secret cabals to run the world. They do it just fine openly in their day jobs. Because if they didn’t use cabals we would keep them away from power whenever we could. Can you for instance even imagine someone voting for a rich politician or a politician openly funded by rich people? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211.md?page=16)