# The cult of Bohemian Grove **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 9, 2015, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211 "2015-02-09T13:31:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/341 "2015-02-12T20:44:54Z")
> [@spyderkill](#): > > this video was made by the owl. LSD can put you in contact with the spiritual world, but they don’t want that the masses to know that. Feeling considerably less bad about bitching out a “13-year-old”. ---
**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/342 "2015-02-12T21:19:22Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Feeling considerably less bad about bitching out a “13-year-old”. You can read that here > **[LSD](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysergic_acid_diethylamide)** > > Lysergic acid diethylamide, commonly known as LSD (from German Lysergsäure-diethylamid), is a potent psychedelic drug that intensifies thoughts, emotions, and sensory perception. Often referred to as acid or lucy, LSD can cause mystical, spiritual, or religious experiences. At higher doses, it primarily induces visual and auditory hallucinations. While LSD does not cause physical addiction, it can lead to adverse psychological reactions, such as anxiety, paranoia, and delusion The effects of ... ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/343 "2015-02-12T21:21:50Z")
> [@spyderkill](#): > > Because the demons are the real force that rule this world. No, they’re not. In fact, they don’t exist. > [@](#): > > If you make a deal with them, maybe they put you inside. Again, a non-starter of a proposition, given that demons do not exist. Human beings are perfectly capable of being utter bastards to one another without supernatural assistance. If you really are a Brazilian adolescent, do yourself a favor, and smarten up. If you’re just playing one for our benefit, do the rest of us a favor and go away. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/344 "2015-02-12T21:30:56Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Do you have a cite for this? [Elaine Pagels](http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/31/four-big-myths-about-the-book-of-revelation/) from a CNN article. ---
**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/345 "2015-02-12T21:42:01Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > No, they’re not. In fact, they don’t exist.Again, a non-starter of a proposition, given that demons do not exist. Human beings are perfectly capable of being utter bastards to one another without supernatural assistance. I can’t say that demons exist, so you can’t say that they doesn’t. I don’t have any prof, so do you. So, you should be smart too and doesnt talk so properly about things that you don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/346 "2015-02-12T21:46:06Z")
> [@spyderkill](#): > > I can’t say that demons exist, so you can’t say that they doesn’t. I don’t have any prof, so do you. And if there is no more proof for a thing’s existence than for its nonexistence, nonexistence should be inferred. Occam’s Razor again. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/347 "2015-02-12T21:47:39Z")
The demons are riding the invisible firebreathing dragon in my garage. Except I don’t have a garage. ---
**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/348 "2015-02-12T21:57:31Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > And if there is no more proof for a thing’s existence than for its nonexistence, nonexistence should be inferred. Occam’s Razor again. Most of the things that we know today weren’t known 5 century’s ago. And because of that, they doesnt existed in that time or today? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/349 "2015-02-12T21:58:54Z")
> [@spyderkill](#): > > This type of thinking could stop the discover process. Most of the things that we know today wasn’t known 5 century’s ago. And because of that, they doesnt exist? They existed. They just weren’t known. There’s a difference between existence and knowledge of existence. I realize grade school logic is hard for you, but do try to keep up. ---
**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/350 "2015-02-12T21:59:43Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > The demons are riding the invisible firebreathing dragon in my garage. Except I don’t have a garage. Your garage is a demon. And she had eaten other demons. ---
**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/351 "2015-02-12T22:01:46Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > They existed. They just weren’t known. There’s a difference between existence and knowledge of existence. > > I realize grade school logic is hard for you, but do try to keep up. So how can you know if you don’t have the knowledge of the existence of that things or that they don’t exist? It’s Based on your common sense and personal experience? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/352 "2015-02-12T22:13:01Z")
> [@spyderkill](#): > > you should be smart too and doesnt talk so properly about things that you don’t know. Says the nut who started this thread. ---
**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/353 "2015-02-12T22:27:16Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Says the nut who started this thread. Ohh, somebody got that. Congratulations 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/354 "2015-02-12T22:29:00Z")
> [@spyderkill](#): > > theres no prof of that john of patmos. Ahem… [QUOTE=Revelation 1:9] I, John, your brother and companion in the suffering and kingdom and patient endurance that are ours in Jesus, was on the island of Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus. [/QUOTE] “John of Patmos” is the name that _the author of Revelation_ uses to describe himself. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/355 "2015-02-12T22:55:51Z")
What thirteen year old that has access to the [DEL][COLOR=“Black”]Internuts[/DEL][/COLOR] Internets would waste their valuable time _here_ when there’s a whole WWW filled with teh pr0n? Youth is wasted on the wrong people! CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/356 "2015-02-12T23:15:46Z")
All these youtube videos, I suggest the OP get a copy of _The Life of Brian_ instead. > [@](#): > > **Blood and Thunder Prophet** : _[screaming]_ … and the bezan shall be huge and black, and the eyes thereof red with the blood of living creatures, and the whore of Babylon shall ride forth on a three-headed serpent, and throughout the lands, there will be a great rubbing of parts. Yeeah… > > **False Prophet** : _[yelling]_ … for the demon shall bear a nine-bladed sword. _ **NINE** _-bladed! Not two or five or seven, but _ **NINE** _, which he will wield on all wretched sinners, sinners just like you, sir, there, and the horns shall be on the head, with which he will… > > **Boring Prophet** : …there shall, in that time, be _rumors_ of things going astray, errrm, and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things wi - with the sort of raffia work base that has an attachment. At this time, a friend shall lose his friend’s hammer and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight o’clock. Yea, it is written in the book of Cyril that… ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/357 "2015-02-13T02:30:56Z")
> [@spyderkill](#): > > Does it looks like this? Eventually a chip gonna be our identification code and or credit card. > [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Wow, the 80s called. It wants its idea back. I see your 80s and raise you 60s, when the Beast was working for The Phone Company (TPC): [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U\_OYgCKtGAw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_OYgCKtGAw) ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/358 "2015-02-13T02:36:28Z")
> [@spyderkill](#): > > Most of the things that we know today weren’t known 5 century’s ago. And because of that, they doesnt existed in that time or today? spyderkill, that’s a good question, and it has an answer. I’d appreciate it if you’d carefully consider what I’m saying. An example of what you’re talking about would be electromagnetic waves - we didn’t know they existed five centuries ago. Imagine that you are living back then and a guy tells you that there are electromagnetic waves that exist, like a combination of electricity and magnetism, and these waves can travel long distances and can be used to carry voices and pictures to someone far away, almost instantly. What is the proper response that a 16th-century person should have had to this claim? The right answer is to say “Why do you think that?” and “I’m not going to accept what you’re saying until you can show me some evidence.” If that person couldn’t explain and didn’t have good evidence, it’s only proper that you should reject the claim. Without a way to verify it, there would be no way for that guy to know himself whether the things he was saying were true. It’s hard to imagine that anyone might have said these things, because there are millions of false things that someone could just as easily have made up. The fact that it’s theoretically possible that what he said could be true doesn’t matter - anything somebody makes up without evidence is almost certainly false and you’re right to withhold your belief until you see evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/359 "2015-02-13T03:25:27Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > And I’m the King of Prussia > > He is not 13. > He is not from Brazil. > He IS just another trolling dork. > > And his Schtick is getting quite old. Could be. There are many varieties of troll, and some live to persuade others that they are idiots. I’m not to great at IDing that specie. In fact, I can’t really grasp the point. Anyway, love of drama and resistance to constructive commentary is one trollish symptom. Speaking generally. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/360 "2015-02-13T03:36:37Z")
(shrug) They are also symptoms of adolescence. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211.md?page=19)