# The cult of Bohemian Grove

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 9, 2015, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211 "2015-02-09T13:31:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/361 "2015-02-13T03:42:34Z")

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True enough. We’re edging towards observational equivalence.

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**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/362 "2015-02-13T12:19:20Z")

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> [@CurtC](#):
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> spyderkill, that’s a good question, and it has an answer. I’d appreciate it if you’d carefully consider what I’m saying.

Thank’s, i really appreciate your answer. I understood what you said, and i agree with that.

Unfortunnately some men here instead of giving a good answer (because they probably can’t) they lost their and my time saying bullshit(worse than mine bullshit).

Thank’s.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/363 "2015-02-13T12:22:28Z")

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> [@spyderkill](#):
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> Thank’s, i really appreciate your answer. I understood what you said, and i agree with that.
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> Unfortunnately some men here instead of giving a good answer (because they probably can’t) they lost their and my time saying bullshit(worse than mine bullshit).
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> Thank’s.

That’s a rather sexist statement. The women here are equally capable of being pedantic, condescending, sarcastic and intolerant of ignorance as any of the men.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/364 "2015-02-13T13:20:09Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> Could be. There are many varieties of troll, and some live to persuade others that they are idiots. I’m not to great at IDing that specie. In fact, I can’t really grasp the point.  
> Anyway, love of drama and resistance to constructive commentary is one trollish symptom. Speaking generally.

You have pleased the king.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/365 "2015-02-13T16:01:39Z")

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> [@spyderkill](#):
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> (worse than mine bullshit)

Verifiably impossible, Sparky.

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**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/366 "2015-02-14T00:01:13Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> That’s a rather sexist statement. The women here are equally capable of being pedantic, condescending, sarcastic and intolerant of ignorance as any of the men.

Ohh man, they already got in that point? First they get our job and promotions, now they are idiot too. Where it gonna stop?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/367 "2015-02-14T01:06:20Z")

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I’d suggest you quit while you’re ahead, but…

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/368 "2015-02-14T03:08:11Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> I’d suggest you quit while you’re ahead, but…

Poor kid’s been lapped already.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/369 "2015-02-14T15:28:20Z")

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> [@spyderkill](#):
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> Ohh man, they already got in that point? First they get our job and promotions, now they are idiot too. Where it gonna stop?

Ever hear a 13 year old say this?

Troll sucks as a troll.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/370 "2015-02-14T16:54:11Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> I have good news for you: There is no Satan.

Clearly you aren’t a [Sabres fan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miroslav_%C5%A0atan).

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**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/371 "2015-02-15T01:40:21Z")

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[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/y3sycx3zJ0c/hqdefault.jpg "Rapper DMX Says Satan Approached Him 3 Times on Dr. Phil Show!!! MUST WATCH!!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3sycx3zJ0c)

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/372 "2015-02-15T03:15:56Z")

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[quote=“spyderkill, post:371, topic:712211”]

[/QUOTE] From the youtube video: [quote] Rapper DMX Says Satan Approached Him 3 Times on Dr. Phil Show!!! [/quote] Quite apart from the fact that Satan doesn't exist, it does raise the question of what Satan was doing on the set of Dr. Phil's show.

\<_insert obvious joke about how Dr. Phil got a show in the first place…_\>

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/373 "2015-02-15T03:45:36Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> Ever hear a 13 year old say this?
> 
> Troll sucks as a troll.

If they are quoting South Park, yes. But it means he’s not Brazilian, at least.

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**Author:** ![ambushed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3bc359/32.png) [@ambushed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ambushed)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/374 "2015-03-08T04:41:45Z")

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_“What”_ (he utters in the classic lilting voice of Betty Jo Bialosky) _“??”_

No one has in this thread has even _referenced_ the primary and utterly hilarious article that got the more-or-less “mainstream” fascinated in the Grove in the first place? You know, the long, classic _Spy_ magazine piece from 1989 (during the “funny years”)?

Let’s start with a link to the cover of that glorious issue I read back in October '89:

[_**Wild and Crazy V.I.P.'S!  
Spy Goes Undercover with Henry Kissinger, Merv Griffin, William F. Bukley Jr. and Malcom Forbes at Bohemian Grove – The Establishment’s Secret Two [sic]-Week Frat Party**_](http://books.google.com/books?id=iEcCF1ICLt8C&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false)

Sheesh! A thread without _the_ basic reference is a pitiful pit thread indeed!

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/375 "2015-03-08T14:27:50Z")

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Hey, I quoted Nixon from his own secret tapes he made. Primary source.

> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> “The Bohemian Grove, that I attend from time to time—the Easterners and the others come there—but it is the most faggy goddamn thing you could ever imagine, that San Francisco crowd that goes in there; it’s just terrible! I mean I won’t shake hands with anybody from San Francisco.”  
> —President Richard M. Nixon, Bohemian Club member, [from the Watergate tapes](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove#Quotations)

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/376 "2015-03-08T15:23:36Z")

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> [@ambushed](#):
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> _“What”_ (he utters in the classic lilting voice of Betty Jo Bialosky) _“??”_

Oh! You mean Nancy!!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/377 "2015-03-08T15:48:47Z")

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Her name was McGill, she called herself Lil, but everyone knew her as Nancy.

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