# The cult of Bohemian Grove **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 9, 2015, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211 "2015-02-09T13:31:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/61 "2015-02-09T17:20:21Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > _If_ you don’t believe that demons exist, and _if_ they are in some way worshipping demons, then they are just wasting their time screwing around in the woods and nobody is the worse for it. > Do you believe that demons exist? I understand that i can’t tell for sure if they exist or not. Some people doesn’t have a little doubt, i don’t agree with them. I understand that the cult of the demons exist, this is a fact. And isn’t made for some african nobody like western superior people would like to say, it’s happening in america, europe and every other places. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/62 "2015-02-09T17:20:45Z")
**Oddly, I wonder if there are “Grove Wannabes” in the Nashville area.** Here > **[Historic Estate in Nashville | Cheekwood Estate & Gardens](https://cheekwood.org/)** > > Cheekwood Estate is 55 acres of spectacular gardens and world-class art. Learn more about our historic estate, and plan your visit! I’ve been to the Cheeckwood Botanical Gardens, in Nashville’s very wealthiest neighborhood, and it has two owl statues. One larger one at the head of a pathway, another, smaller one, set in a small, circular plaza, and elevated. They weren’t there a year or three ago. And seem quite out of place. **spyderkill** –if you visit Nashville, & wish to suss this out, go in Spring, or Summer. The Garden is utterly lovely, that time of year. They also have an art museum. Very restful. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/63 "2015-02-09T17:21:13Z")
You will realize that the owl is just smoke and mirrors to distract the sheeple from where the actual decisions are made. The leaders you know about are not the rulers. Any “Leader” you can name is a puppet, those with real power stay in the bright shadows of the searchlights. The Bohemian Grovers do not control HAARP, and they certainly did not put all those clues into the Bugs Bunny cartoons. Wake up! ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/64 "2015-02-09T17:21:57Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > There is no Satanic Owl Goddess. I dare you to visit my back yard some night and say that. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/65 "2015-02-09T17:22:21Z")
It’s just a freakin’ summer camp for billionaires. It’s got rituals, games and fun things to do, just like most other summer camps. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/66 "2015-02-09T17:25:17Z")
> [@spyderkill](#): > > I understand that i can’t tell for sure if they exist or not. Some people doesn’t have a little doubt, i don’t agree with them. I understand that the cult of the demons exist, this is a fact. And isn’t made for some african nobody like western superior people would like to say, it’s happening in america, europe and every other places. I asked what you believe, not what you can say for sure. And what the fuck is this “cult of the demons” you’re talking about? ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/67 "2015-02-09T17:27:06Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > It’s just a freakin’ summer camp for billionaires. It’s got rituals, games and fun things to do, just like most other summer camps. Sounds like Skull and Bones, but with a great big freaking owl. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/68 "2015-02-09T17:31:13Z")
> [@spyderkill](#): > > I understand that i can’t tell for sure if they exist or not. Some people doesn’t have a little doubt, i don’t agree with them. I understand that the cult of the demons exist, this is a fact. And isn’t made for some african nobody like western superior people would like to say, it’s happening in america, europe and every other places. . . . Well, yes, but . . . [you had better do some reading up on that](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Satanism), it is not quite what you seem to think it is. ---
**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/69 "2015-02-09T17:36:24Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I asked what you believe, not what you can say for sure. And what the fuck is this “cult of the demons” you’re talking about? Man, i believe. I didn’t talk before because some people here are making fun of the topic, it would make it worse. Look at this rave. See what they are showing to these people. In a particular part, they are called as ‘‘Weak mind person’’. And they like it. This is something that i remembered now, but i’m gonna explain better this ‘‘cult of demons’’. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OlFd9saebU) ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/70 "2015-02-09T17:36:43Z")
> [@yanceylebeef](#): > > You people mock, but what just happened at the beginning of this month? > > Millions and millions of people watched the Superb Owl on broadcast television. Uh, excuse me - Ms Latella, excuse me… ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/71 "2015-02-09T17:41:36Z")
You laugh, but these guys truly are privileged to the Secrets of the Universe, such as how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/72 "2015-02-09T17:44:00Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > . . . Well, yes, but . . . [you had better do some reading up on that](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Satanism), it is not quite what you seem to think it is. See also [Satanic Panic](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Satanic_Panic). ---
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/73 "2015-02-09T17:47:07Z")
Just a corporate weekend with team-building exercises. Some people like that sort of thing. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/74 "2015-02-09T17:47:30Z")
[quote=“spyderkill, post:69, topic:712211”] Man, i believe. I didn’t talk before because some people here are making fun of the topic, it would make it worse. Look at this rave. See what they are showing to these people. In a particular part, they are called as ‘‘Weak mind person’’. And they like it. This is something that i remembered now, but i’m gonna explain better this ‘‘cult of demons’’. [/QUOTE] What medications are you currently taking…or are _supposed_ to be taking? ---
**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/75 "2015-02-09T17:49:14Z")
> [@spyderkill](#): > > i’m gonna explain better this ‘‘cult of demons’’ [Please do!](http://i.imgur.com/agJIP.gif) ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/76 "2015-02-09T17:49:44Z")
> [@spyderkill](#): > > I believe that there are things going on that normal people doesnt care about, their leaders are worshipping old statues, making conspirations and nobody really cares. Their music, video clips are full of little meanings, simbols that you can see at any book of sourcery and ocultism. Again, nobody cares. If all this is bullshit, why this still happening? > > Of course, there are people who gonna tell that i’m crazy and a lot of other things. I’m not telling that demons exists, but the people that rule our world seems to believe in that. > [@spyderkill](#): > > 3 weeks per year, a group formed by some of the most powerful men in the word(kings, billionaires, presidents, ex presidents, senators, etc) go to a private forest in the california. There’s a lot of secrets and security, nobody really know what they’re doing. The fact is, they have a owl of 12 meters in the middle of the woods. In 2000 man called Alex Jones made a video of a ritual, wich was made with this owl and a supposed offering to her. This owl is considered for many people a old god, or a demon. They supposedly ask for advices and wisdom to this thing trought a ritual named ‘‘Cremation Care’’. Some people say that this owl is Molech, a demon that was cited even in the bible. There’s a lot of text and videos in the internet about this meeting, it really happen. > > The question is: Why the most powerful men in the word go to the woods and do sacrifices to the old gods? > … > Sorry for the english, it’s not my first language. There is no need to apologize for your English, it is quite good. I’m impressed that you consistently use “they’re”, “their”, and “there” correctly - something many people get wrong in the heat of debate - as well as “it’s”. The problem is those words aren’t underlined as misspelling, the way “ocult”, “simbol”, and “sourcery” are in my browser. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/77 "2015-02-09T17:51:01Z")
[This](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/y3/esq-alex-jones.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.esquire.com/anxiety/alex-jones-interview-0913&h=263&w=191&tbnid=aKoXr5uL3HY5-M:&zoom=1&tbnh=186&tbnw=135&usg=__fdC_wH_E1i5xHIruyNnUMbXrhHc=&docid=FpwoD8hlea6OWM&itg=1&ved=0CJABEMo3&ei=F_HYVIaCD9H8oATo5YDYBg) is the picture of a man looking at a huge freaking demon owl, and the demon worshiping elites who are feeding it the youth of our nation to keep themselves in power and Scrooge McDuck swimming pools of money! ---
**Author:** ![spyderkill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@spyderkill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spyderkill)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/78 "2015-02-09T17:56:35Z")
Seriously, if you look into a satanic/ocultist/sourcery book you will see the same symbols that are all over the places, the decoration of the citys, the movies, the music clips, and even in some cartoons. I mean, wtf is that? Of course, you can doubt of the existence of this entities, but the penetrance of their knowledges and rituals in our society is something uncontestable. The lessons of the satanist Crowley, do what you wish and bla bla bla, the philosophy of life that this man showed up is what our society is using now. If you do a little research, you will see that some of the most important artists of the century take influences from Crowley to make music. You can see here REAL parts of interviews that some our best musicians gave. It’s look a little strange, doesn’t? [http://www.a-voice.org/discern/rockmed.htm](http://www.a-voice.org/discern/rockmed.htm) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/79 "2015-02-09T18:01:07Z")
It’s old men going to camp like little boys, running around in their undies and getting tipsy, singing songs and putting on plays and generally having a good time away from the “wimmen folk”, but not the help. Plenty of people are hired to cook and entertain, and they have no compulsion against saying what went on. I’ve known a few members and a few of the help. It’s camping. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211/80 "2015-02-09T18:01:11Z")
> [@spyderkill](#): > > Seriously, if you look into a satanic/ocultist/sourcery book you will see the same symbols that are all over the places, the decoration of the citys, the movies, the music clips, and even in some cartoons. I mean, wtf is that? Easy. 1. Satanists aren’t the only ones who use those symbols. E.g., we have 50 pentagrams on Old Glory. 2. Some artists use the symbols to **evoke** Satanism; said artists are not necessarily Satanists, though some would claim to be. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-cult-of-bohemian-grove/712211.md?page=5)