The "Culture of Corruption"...

Alex Jones' Endgame Another view on hastert and his reasoning.

I don’t think I’m his type.

How uplifting. I’m all inspired now. :dubious: Cynicism is all very well, but I don’t think we do politicians any favor by setting our expectations so contemptuously low. The more we accept corruption and dirtiness in politics as something unremarkable and trivial, the harder we make it for the non-corrupt types to make any headway

Every once in a while, I find myself tempted to engage with you. You sometimes seem reasonable, as if you are, in all honesty, prepared to discuss a subject. Then I am reminded that you partake of a different reality than I do. Have you read the Ethics Commitee report? Or at least parts of it?

That’s a perfectly valid point that rjung made, Shodan. I’m on record, in this very thread, as supporting the expulsion of Jefferson from the House, though he is of my party. Can you demonstrate that you have supported the expulsion of a Republican crook from the House?

Usual suspects, indeed.

I think we can all cheer tonight’s defeat of that corrupt, lying bastard, Henry Bonilla. 54% to 45% is quite a MANDATE, so it looks like Tom DeLay’s Texas gerrymandering has gone balls up as well.

There are safety issues here, Frank. Kicking out all Dem crooks would be an expulsion, all Pubbies would be a stampede.

Zoe, let’s be honest here. They got him dead to rights as willing to play ball. In fact, the only reason that the guy didn’t get indicted and convicted is because the greedy bastard said that the bribe wasn’t big enough!

He got a reprieve that politicians only dream of, and yes, he’s kept his nose clean since then, but there is absolute proof that he could have been bought for the right price once upon a time. To quote an aphorism from a Tom Clancy book: Once a cocksucker, always a cocksucker.

Crudely put, but nonetheless…you gotta actually slobber the knob, don’t you? Not just think about it, not just talk about it, but actually suck it, right?

Well, speaking as a hetero-male, may I say that this is one of those rare cases where it is better to receive than to give (head).

This OT moment brought to you by the “Comittee to Elect Mlees for Peanut Gallery President”.

The only reason the Republican party wasn’t historically a sinkhole was that it didn’t have enough power to merit bribes. Louisiana had, as even William F. Buckley said, the best legislature that money could buy.

When I was there a Republican governor named Dave Treen got elected. (I voted for him.) He only lasted one term - Edwin beat him because Treen was too boring.

You really need to brush up on your Louisiana history. There was a good movie with Paul Newman as Earl Long (I forget the title) that talked about his stripper girlfriend and how his political enemies locked him up in the looney bin.

I agree that Jefferson must go. Money in the icebox? How lame - and how easy to find. Really not up to Louisiana standards.

I’m pretty disgusted with Nancy Pelosi’s “leadership” on ethics so far.

Despite her, Murtha didn’t get the majority leader post and Alcee Hastings won’t be House Intelligence Committee chairman, because enough Democrats felt it would be wrong, politically expedient as their actions likely were. Hopefully enough public heat will be kept turned up to remind the Dems to do something more lasting about corruption.

At the very least, Jefferson should be kept off any committee deciding on reconstruction funds for Louisiana (he shouldn’t be given any position of authority when it comes to allocating money, period (is there a House Do-Nothing Committee for Wayward Sleazes?)). I doubt Pelosi has enough guts at this point to do the right thing re Jefferson. But we’ll see.

No doubt, but we are discussing the noun, not the verb. A condition of being, not an action, if you follow. A condition that can be reversed, under certain conditions. A nocturnal remission, I believe is the technical term.

Good Lord. Pelosi has been calling for an investigation into Jefferson since May 2006.

Last June he was taken off the Ways and Means Committee. Last June, well before the election.

So a Democrat is suspected of taking a bribe, the party leadership goes on record as wanting an investigation, and he is taken off committee pending the outcome. A Republican is known to his party leadership to be a sexual predator but they keep the news to themselves and they even urge him to seek reelection. Is it that hard to see the difference in ethics and morality between the parties?

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Ahem. Post #29. I guess I am on everyone’s ‘ignore’ list after all.

I don’t know what percentage of this last election was due to the war and what part due to corruption. If corruption was the drive, then this would be the time to push for campaign finance reform. I for one am ready to reclaim our system. I will not vote for anyone that votes against meaningful reform. I do not care who it is or what party he or she is in.

If I used an ignore list, you wouldn’t be on it. My apologies for duplication.

Nancy Pelosi has some experience in that field.

Blaze. Damn funny, too.