# The current second Trump administration: a compendium of horrors **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 6, 2024, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774 "2024-11-06T09:17:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 101
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2025, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2002 "2025-07-23T23:11:40Z")
[American Convicted of Murder Is Freed by Trump From Venezuela Prison](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/23/world/americas/venezuela-american-convicted-murder.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Yk8.66tw.oWNg1ishXEmV&smid=url-share) > [@](#): > > in 2023, he was sentenced to 30 years in prison for a triple homicide committed in Madrid in 2016, according to Venezuelan court documents and [Spanish news media coverage](https://elpais.com/espana/madrid/2024-01-11/seis-anos-despues-del-triple-homicidio-de-usera-el-culpable-es-condenado-en-venezuela-a-30-anos-de-prision.html). . . . > > The Spanish government had previously attempted to extradite Mr. Hanid Ortiz from Venezuela, but the Venezuelan Constitution [prohibits the extradition](https://venezuela.justia.com/federales/constitucion-de-la-republica-bolivariana-de-venezuela/titulo-iii/capitulo-iv/#articulo-69) of Venezuelan citizens. This led Mr. Hanid Ortiz to be tried inside Venezuela It seems unclear whether Ortiz is now walking free in the United States. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2025, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2003 "2025-07-23T23:19:29Z")
Spanish media has more on the released triple murderer: > **[US defends repatriation of triple murderer who slipped into the prisoner...](https://english.elpais.com/usa/2025-07-23/us-defends-repatriation-of-triple-murderer-who-slipped-into-the-prisoner-exchange-with-venezuela-many-reported-being-subjected-to-torture.html#)** > > Dahud Hanid Ortiz was serving 30 years in a Venezuelan prison for a triple homicide he committed in Spain in 2016. But the State Department applauds that there are no more Americans ‘wrongfully detained’ in the Latin American country According to the State Department, they cannot comment due to “privacy”. When it comes to the location of convicted triple murderers, privacy is paramount. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2025, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2004 "2025-07-23T23:37:40Z")
Lemme guess … he’s white. And MAGA. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2025, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2005 "2025-07-23T23:42:13Z")
Rounding up a lot of gardeners, housekeepers, and painters without criminal records, though. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2006 "2025-07-24T00:03:26Z")
But they aren’t white, so… ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2007 "2025-07-24T02:05:24Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > …a dog “would make me look foolish”. Sounds like someone from another planet. > [@jsc1953](#): > > But that didn’t stop Trump from leaping to this conclusion: ergo, _any_ claims of Russian interference in 2016 were false, spurious, criminal, treasonous and Obama needs to go to jail. And let’s all stop talking about Epstein. Donald is really going for the Hail Mary here. After Obama is thrown into Alligator Alcatraz, Trump will start worrying about how he can top that. I don’t recall Trump sounding this shark-circled before. Like, scared. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2008 "2025-07-24T02:17:34Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Lemme guess … he’s white. His name is Dahud Hanid Ortiz. Sounds from his name that he has two ethnicities arguably not Trump administration favorites. Question to anyone: Does the United States have a legal basis for holding Mr. Ortiz? Related to that, does Spain have a basis for requesting extradition? Spain wanted him to stand trial there, but he has already been convicted in Venezuela on the basis of Spanish-supplied evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2009 "2025-07-24T02:21:11Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Donald is really going for the Hail Mary here. After Obama is thrown into Alligator Alcatraz, Trump will start worrying about how he can top that. I don’t recall Trump sounding this shark-circled before. Like, scared. During his criminal trial, Trump was clearly scared as you could plainly see in his behavior and when he spoke to the press. He even pleaded with Congress to save him as he felt the noose tightening around his neck. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2010 "2025-07-24T12:59:52Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > He said – and I swear that I’m not making this up – that a dog “would make me look foolish”. 🤣 He’s not wrong, but I can’t help but think the suitable trumpian “first dog” should be a [Chinese Crested.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Crested_Dog) Ugly, full of shit and with a vastly inaccurate sense of self-worth. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2011 "2025-07-24T13:01:27Z")
No, no. A dog can be all those things and still be loving and kind. It just doesn’t work with dogs. In fact I’m not sure it would work with any animal. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2012 "2025-07-24T13:04:42Z")
Short answer: nothing. > **[Gabbard's claims of an anti-Trump conspiracy are not supported by...](https://apnews.com/article/gabbard-russia-2016-steele-dossier-0452e1079506daa86d75fa0a2f22fc60)** > > Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard this month declassified material that she claimed proved a “treasonous conspiracy” by the Obama administration in 2016 to politicize U.S. intelligence in service of casting doubt on the legitimacy of... _“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”_ ― John Adams, The Portable John Adams ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2013 "2025-07-24T13:24:30Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > And exactly what did Obama get caught directly doing? It’s like an Inception of their fantasy conspiracies. If you listen between the lines, they have orders Obama gave to the FBI and the like to investigate the Russian connections in the 2016 election. Now, of course, Trump et al. entirely deny there ever was any such connection, and so Obama _must_ have been ordering them to come up with fake evidence to implicate Trump, as part of their plan to usurp Trump’s election win. Of course, according to Trump, that investigation “completely exonerated” him, but it was still treasonous, for some reason, because they created the fake evidence to take down Trump that didn’t actually exist, because he was exonerated, or something… But they probably do have Obama’s signature on some order, and they’ll spin that as treason, and the MAGAs will eat it up, never looking any deeper than that. > [@wolfpup](#): > > \*\* As long as you don’t get them wet So we’re playing by Gremlins Rules now? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2014 "2025-07-26T11:20:04Z")
[FCC to Appoint a Babysitter to Make Sure CBS Isn’t Anti-Trump](https://gizmodo.com/fcc-to-appoint-a-babysitter-to-make-sure-cbs-isnt-anti-trump-2000634566) Their very own Commissar. > The Federal Communications Commission finally approved an $8 billion merger between Paramount and Skydance on Thursday after several changes at CBS that were widely seen as efforts to placate President Donald Trump. Part of the deal will apparently require an ombudsman to check the media company’s supposed political biases. And FCC commissioner Brendan Carr has been doing the rounds to brag about how he’s getting people on TV to be nicer to the MAGA movement. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2015 "2025-07-26T13:44:50Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Their very own Commissar. Zampolit. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2016 "2025-07-28T16:22:13Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Their very own Commissar. Don’t turn around. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2025, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2017 "2025-07-29T15:16:41Z")
$9.7 million of already purchased medical supplies to be burned just to spite women overseas. [US to burn $9.7 million worth of USAID-purchased contraceptives rather than deliver them to women overseas | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/29/europe/usaid-contraceptives-burn-belgium-france-intl) ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2025, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2018 "2025-07-31T00:54:43Z")
[url=[https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trump-hits-brazil-with-tariffs-sanctions-key-sectors-excluded-2025-07-30/\](https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trump-hits-brazil-with-tariffs-sanctions-key-sectors-excluded-2025-07-30/%5C)]Trump Hits Brazil[/url] The rate is 50 percent – the highest yet. Coffee is supposed to get the price shock, but orange juice, beef, and airliners are excluded. Effective date is August 6, so plenty of time for Trump to back down a bit. Prediction: No way Brazil stops the Bolsonaro trial. And, sooner or later, Trump will back down on coffee. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2025, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2019 "2025-07-31T01:14:56Z")
Corrected link from last post: > **[Trump hits Brazil with tariffs, sanctions but key sectors excluded](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-signs-order-implementing-additional-181029253.html)** > > SAO PAULO/BRASILIA (Reuters) -U.S. President Donald Trump on Wednesday slapped a 50% tariff on most Brazilian goods to fight what he has called a "witch hunt" against former President Jair Bolsonaro, but softened the blow by excluding sectors such as... ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2025, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2020 "2025-07-31T01:18:02Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > And, sooner or later, Trump will back down on coffee. Aha! That’s assuming his cultists drink coffee. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2025, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2021 "2025-07-31T01:28:57Z")
Re last post, I wasn’t thinking that way. I was thinking that Trump will back down whenever a price rise gets enough headlines. So far, [url= [Are tariffs driving prices up? Here’s what we know : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2025/07/29/nx-s1-5477470/prices-trump-tariffs%5C%5C%5C%5C) ]”Many companies are eating new costs”[/url] Smoot-Hawley tariff rates have not been giving the expected results. I’m surprised by it, but the economy is doing pretty good. Trump may be thinking that, what with him being a dictator and all, if any particular tariff turns out to be too high, he’ll quickly roll it back. I don’t think that will work. But Donald, so far, has luck on his side. Price rises are modest. And what rises there are do not get to the top of the news because of fixation on something that never hurts Trump, a sex scandal. P.S. The link in this post seems to work, but does not look right. I am having repeated link problems tonight. Sorry if this is discussed on another thread. , [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774.md?page=100) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774.md?page=102)