# The current second Trump administration: a compendium of horrors

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
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**Created:** [November 6, 2024, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774 "2024-11-06T09:17:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
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> # Smithsonian removes Trump from impeachment exhibit in American history museum
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> _The Smithsonian said it restored the display to an earlier version, which notes that “only three presidents have seriously faced removal.”_
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> [https://wapo.st/3HhfyxU](https://wapo.st/3HhfyxU)
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> …  
> The change coincides with broader concerns about political interference at the Smithsonian and how the institution charged with preserving American history could be shaped by the Trump administration’s efforts to exert more control over its work.  
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Let’s make sure actual history doesn’t make Dear Leader look bad.

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**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\
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Of all the things they’re doing, and this might seem odd, but this to me is the most disturbing. Literally rewriting history is about as sinister as it gets.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2024 "2025-08-01T06:33:36Z")

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But on the other hand they’re right. Did Trump _seriously_ face removal on either impeachment with a 50-50 Senate?

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**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\
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Good point!

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Did Trump _seriously_ face removal on either impeachment with a 50-50 Senate?

If it had been somehow possible to have the Senate trial on the night of 1/6/21, I think it would have been possible; a whole lot of GOP senators were scared and angry as hell. But, the time it took for the second impeachment to get to that point gave them time to calm down, and let themselves get talked down by Trump’s supporters.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2027 "2025-08-01T06:47:57Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Did Trump _seriously_ face removal on either impeachment with a 50-50 Senate?

Wapo is becoming so restrictive these days that even with a gift link, you still have to set up an account and sign in to see the article, so to hell with them.

I presume the three presidents they’re probably talking about are Andrew Johnson (impeached but not convicted), Clinton (impeached but not convicted), and Nixon (House Judiciary Committee voted to impeach but Nixon resigned before a formal impeachment was carried out). Trump should definitely be on the list because he was impeached not once but twice. The probability of conviction by spineless Republicans isn’t important; what’s important is that the reasons for both impeachments were not frivolous, but based on serious transgressions. It’s all part of history, which the orange man-child is now ordering to be rewritten.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2028 "2025-08-01T11:13:31Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> [quote]
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> Smithsonian removes Trump from impeachment exhibit in American history museum
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> [https://wapo.st/3HhfyxU](https://wapo.st/3HhfyxU)

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Wapo is becoming so restrictive these days that even with a gift link, you still have to set up an account and sign in to see the article, so to hell with them.

Here’s a few links that don’t require registration or paid subscription.

[https://www.reuters.com/world/us/american-history-museum-removes-trumps-name-impeachment-exhibit-2025-08-01/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/american-history-museum-removes-trumps-name-impeachment-exhibit-2025-08-01/)

> **[Smithsonian removes Trump from impeachment exhibit after push from White House](https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/smithsonian-removes-trump-impeachment-exhibit-1303398)**
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> The Smithsonian reportedly removed any reference to President Trump's two previous impeachments, adding to fears that the administration is trying to influence cultural institutions

[https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/31/us/politics/smithsonian-trump-impeachments-exhibit.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/31/us/politics/smithsonian-trump-impeachments-exhibit.html)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2029 "2025-08-01T11:21:20Z")

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Aside:

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Wapo is becoming so restrictive these days that even with a gift link, you still have to set up an account and sign in to see the article, so to hell with them.

I’ve had a Yahoo email account for years that I use for things like that. Really, any place that needs an email address to gain access to something. Any place that might generate junk mail. And I go to that account and delete everything in it (and empty the trash) every couple of days. I rarely give out my main email address.

YMMV

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
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Into the memory hole it goes. I wonder if Orwell had any idea how prophetic his work would be.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2031 "2025-08-01T12:29:29Z")

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I expect that soon every copy of _1984_ will be disappeared. To be replaced by something of the same name that’s vaguely similar but which extols the true paradise they’re creating. And not in an ironic way; with all the sincerity an AI ghostwriter can muster.

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**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2032 "2025-08-01T14:48:17Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> I expect that soon every copy of _1984_ will be disappeared

Soon, as in 16 years ago?

> **[Amazon Kindle users surprised by 'Big Brother' move](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2009/jul/17/amazon-kindle-1984)**
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> Owners of Amazon's Kindle electronic book reader are protesting after they were mistakenly sold illegal copies of George Orwell's books - and then saw them deleted from their gadgets without their knowledge

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2033 "2025-08-01T15:19:56Z")

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A prescient coincidence. Butvyeah, like that.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2034 "2025-08-01T19:36:37Z")

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[Trump says he will fire labor statistics chief after weak jobs report](https://www.axios.com/2025/08/01/trump-jobs-labor-statistics)

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> I have directed my Team to fire this Biden Political Appointee, IMMEDIATELY

Will voters realize we are in a recession if the statistics have been faked? We’ll probably find out. Or will it be truly impossible to know the overall economic situation?

Or will Trump eat a TACO? Oligarchs won’t like this.

P.S. Note that the Bureau of Labor Statistics provides the inflation rate as well as unemployment.

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**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2025, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2035 "2025-08-02T05:27:56Z")

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At this point I am picturing armies of workers (ok, maybe AI will do it), combing through Internet articles, amending figures retrospectively, _1984_ style. You know it’s going to happen.

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It’s possible that the Trump tariffs [could be reversed by a court](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/31/trump-tariff-arguments-appeals-court-00486972). Specifically, the Washington, D.C.-based Federal Circuit Court of Appeals has wondered how Trump is invoking the International Emergency Economic Powers Act to enact tariffs, when the IEEPA doesn’t mention the word tariffs at all.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2025, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2037 "2025-08-02T08:37:26Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Will voters realize we are in a recession if the statistics have been faked?

People figured out that the economy was bad in the USSR, despite them trying the same trick of not collecting economic data (even the Politburo had no way to get accurate economic data). While it takes an organization to gather and analyze precise numbers, the problem with trying to outright hide a bad economy is that people are _living_ in it.

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**Author:** ![MacDoc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/macdoc/32/18696_2.png) [@MacDoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacDoc)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2025, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2038 "2025-08-02T11:11:41Z")

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> **[GOP Celebrates The Return Of The Great American Car With A Picture Of A Lada...](https://www.jalopnik.com/1928324/gop-great-american-car-trump-tweet-lada/)**
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> It's not the bold vision of the future of American car-building we expected, but maybe it's the one we deserve.

Guy is an absolute moron as are his staff.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2025, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2039 "2025-08-02T12:08:55Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> > [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> > Will voters realize we are in a recession if the statistics have been faked?
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> People figured out that the economy was bad in the USSR, despite them trying the same trick of not collecting economic data . . .

Maybe when the U.S.S.R. was close to collapse, but we are nowhere near that.

[Stalin Falsified the Data, Then Killed the Statisticians](https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/06/15/stalin-falsified-the-data-then-killed-the-statisticians/).

And when he died:

[The whole of Russia wept. So did I. We wept sincerely with grief and perhaps also with fear for the future.](https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1954-2/succession-to-stalin/succession-to-stalin-texts/mourners-crushed-at-stalins-funeral/)

If Trump gains control over the media outlets he hates, it could go far in that direction here.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
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Hmmm. After his nibs dies are the faithful going to preserve his body ala [Lenin](https://youtu.be/hCZsy6_SIQ8)?

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2025, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2041 "2025-08-02T14:55:14Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Maybe when the U.S.S.R. was close to collapse, but we are nowhere near that.

A hell of a lot nearer than six months ago, though.

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