# The current second Trump administration: a compendium of horrors

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 6, 2024, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774 "2024-11-06T09:17:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2202 "2025-09-03T13:16:05Z")

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Yeah. The whole point of this thread is to be a sort of “breaking news” compendium (see title) of what happens nearly every day .

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2203 "2025-09-03T15:16:56Z")

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> [@Chad\_Sudan](#):
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> It is my hope that the next administration’s combined intelligence will exceed that of the Rose Garden’s blue cone.

Hey, ease up on the blue cone. That’s the prototype for this year’s White House Christmas decorations.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2204 "2025-09-03T16:23:43Z")

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Have I missed something? This sort of blue cone?

[![](https://media01.stockfood.com/largepreviews/MzUyMTIxMzEy/11358752-Ice-cream-in-blue-cones.jpg) ](https://media01.stockfood.com/largepreviews/MzUyMTIxMzEy/11358752-Ice-cream-in-blue-cones.jpg)

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2205 "2025-09-04T10:03:33Z")

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The Trump admin is something more akin to a “blue waffle.”

Do not google this at work, or if you have any kind of instantaneous vomit reflex.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2206 "2025-09-05T23:51:52Z")

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[South Koreans Are Swept Up in Immigration Raid at Hyundai Plant in Georgia](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/05/us/georgia-battery-plant-hyundai-lg-ice-raid.html?unlocked_article_code=1.jk8.Dqpv.d_BsPjcFowLd&smid=url-share)

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> The immigration operation brought construction to a halt at the battery plant, known as HL-GA Battery Company. A spokeswoman, Mary Beth Kennedy, said in a statement that the plant was cooperating with the authorities.
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> Jongwon Lee, a Korean lawyer who works in metro Atlanta, said on Friday that South Korean conglomerates are bringing huge investments into the United States, but there aren’t enough visas to sponsor trained workers to run these factories.
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> The blame lies with the American visa system, he said. The United States “invited us to invest in the U.S., but they don’t give Koreans proper visas.”

Trump policies will stop overseas companies from building facilities to employ Americans, as seen here. But somebody did meet their arrest quota today.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2207 "2025-09-06T01:05:34Z")

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[Executive Order: RESTORING THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF WAR](https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/restoring-the-united-states-department-of-war/)

This illegal Trump executive order changes the name of the Department of Defense, which is named in legislation, to the Department of War. As often the case with Trump’s executive orders, the order argues that it isn’t doing anything illegal, when it clearly goes against the wording in legislation.

Importance? Probably trivial, but the symbolism is bad. There’s a good reason why many (almost all?) countries changed their ministry of war to being a ministry of defense after WWII.

If I was a Greenlander, I would see this as a bad sign that Trump is serious about the U.S. military going on offense.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2208 "2025-09-06T01:57:35Z")

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I thought this had to be a joke, but it isn’t.

A cage fight is tentatively scheduled for the White House lawn in June 2026.

One wonders if the participants will have cannons fired, and their faces beamed into the night sky.

> **[Trump planning UFC cage match on White House lawn](https://foxbaltimore.com/news/nation-world/trump-planning-ufc-cage-match-on-white-house-lawn-report-president-united-states-ultimate-fighting-championship-fighters-chief-executive-dana-white-mixed-martial-arts-washington-monument-lincoln-memorial-dc)**
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> President Donald Trump is planning an Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) cage match that will take plan on the White House lawn.

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**Author:** ![rippingtons\_fan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rippingtons_fan/32/11767_2.png) [@rippingtons\_fan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rippingtons_fan)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2209 "2025-09-06T02:30:20Z")

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Trump wants to rename the Department of Defense as the Department of WAR. Does Trump want the new name to justify waging aggressive warfare on other nations?

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2210 "2025-09-06T02:33:00Z")

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My guess is yes. I heard him say earlier today that “Department of Defense” is a woke name.

(headdesk)

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2211 "2025-09-06T02:38:24Z")

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> [@rippingtons\_fan](#):
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> Trump wants to rename the Department of Defense as the Department of WAR.

He doesn’t just want to. He did it:

[U.S. Department of War](https://www.war.gov/)

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> DOD is now DOW

> [@rippingtons\_fan](#):
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> Does Trump want the new name to justify waging aggressive warfare on other nations?

Two possible wars are mentioned here, but maybe Venezuela is coming first.

> [@Trump now wants to use military force to take the Panama Canal and Greenland](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-now-wants-to-use-military-force-to-take-the-panama-canal-and-greenland/1012691):
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> I’ve heard in the news that Trump wants to use military force to take the Panama Canal and Greenland. Isn’t that blatant U.S. imperialism? That would be armed aggression against two friendly countries. He wants to rename the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America. That wouldn’t be recognized under international law, would it? What other kinds of criminal misadventures has this fascist megalomaniac got planned?

But as for why Trump wants it, who knows? My guess is that he wants attention and needs to find something controversial to do on a daily basis..

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2212 "2025-09-06T02:57:22Z")

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Nothing says “you deserve the Nobel Peace Prize” like changing the name of the military from Defense Department to War Department. Or is there a Nobel War Prize that I’m unaware of?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2213 "2025-09-06T03:14:06Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> I heard him say earlier today that “Department of Defense” is a woke name.

I think the opposite. Calling it “Defense” instead of “War” is a right wing trick.

I mean, a reasonable person might say “I think we are spending too much money making war. We should reduce the War budget.” If you force them to say “We should reduce Defense budget” then they can be made to sound bad, however reasonable their arguments.

I approve of calling it the War department, which is an accurate name. I’m just surprised that Trump is the one pushing for it.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2214 "2025-09-06T03:17:14Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> I’m just surprised that Trump is the one pushing for it.

I have no doubt that he was told that calling it “Defense” was passive and reactive, while “War” was super-macho and alpha-male.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2215 "2025-09-06T03:29:54Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> have no doubt that he was told that calling it “Defense” was passive and reactive, while “War” was super-macho and alpha-male

The way Hegseth explained it could be summarized exactly that way.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2216 "2025-09-06T03:31:07Z")

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I was just at my local bar and overheard these 2 20-somethings talking about how “cool” the name change is. They commented how easy it would be to pick up women, etc. They joked that even being a cook for the Department of War would guarantee p\*\*\*\*. So the marketing works, and I felt like puking thinking how many 25-year old men around our country are having this conversation.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2217 "2025-09-06T03:32:17Z")

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Maybe if the girls were Kegbreath-level drunk, I guess.

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2218 "2025-09-06T03:49:40Z")

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> So the marketing works, and I felt like puking thinking how many 25-year old men around our country are having this conversation.

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> It’s going to fight to win, not to lose. We’re going to go on offense, not just on defense. Maximum lethality, not tepid legality, violent effect, not politically correct. We’re going to raise up warriors, not just defenders. —Pete Hegseth

“Maximum lethality…violent effect…raise up warriors.” Yeah, cause what this country needs is more toxic masculinity.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2219 "2025-09-06T03:51:31Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> I think the opposite. Calling it “Defense” instead of “War” is a right wing trick.

I think not, considering how over the years I’ve mostly seen rightwingers say it should be called the War Department.

On the other hand since “woke” to the right wing means anything they don’t like, it _is_ “woke”. _Most_ things are, since they hate nearly everything.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2220 "2025-09-06T04:56:34Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> A cage fight is tentatively scheduled for the White House lawn

What the everloving fuck?

Just when I thought there might be an end to this insanity, it gets more insane. Is this why the Rose Garden was concreted?

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**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2221 "2025-09-06T06:15:28Z")

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The human race is doomed.

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