# The current second Trump administration: a compendium of horrors **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 6, 2024, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774 "2024-11-06T09:17:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 132
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2626 "2025-11-21T21:17:32Z")
> [@solost](#): > > It’s absolutely sickening that trump can get away with saying something so outrageous and dangerous with probably no lasting repercussions to him whatsoever And even more sickening to view all the self-righteous posturing from Donald and his GOP enablers about ‘encouraging violence’—supposedly something that only _Democrats_ ever do. (viz.: Charlie Kirk murder.) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2627 "2025-11-26T18:59:09Z")
I saw an interesting political comment today. It was a pic of MTG looking pensive with the words … > Marjorie Taylor Greene has been hated by the left for years and never feared for her life. She’s been hated by the right for two days and had to hire security. > > So much for the tolerant … right? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2628 "2025-11-26T22:45:57Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > “Marjorie Taylor Greene has been hated by the left for years and never feared for her life. She’s been hated by the right for two days and had to hire security.” This should be mentioned every single time a right-wing mouthpiece opines about the “radical Left” being violent. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2629 "2025-11-26T23:02:52Z")
That’s pointless. The people it might be mentioned by have zero audience overlap with the RW mouthpieces. The people who need to hear that sensible message never will. We are now two hermetic nations living in separate apartheid realities in the same state. Fixing that is the only hope of the USA holding together. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2630 "2025-11-27T00:22:25Z")
[Trump disinvites South Africa from 2026 G20 summit](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/26/trump-south-africa-g20-00670452) Russia and Saudi Arabia, no problem. By rights the U.S. should be kicked out of the G20, but it doesn’t work like that. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2631 "2025-11-27T00:41:24Z")
> [@](#): > > [Trump disinvites South Africa from 2026 G20 summit](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/26/trump-south-africa-g20-00670452) This represents an opportunity for 45/47. > [@](#): > > _(from cite)_ > the host country customarily closes the meeting by handing a gavel to the leader of the next country presiding over the summit. Since 45/47 didn’t attend the last G20 in Johannesburg, and the South Africans didn’t hand over the gavel to the US diplomat sent to collect it post summit on his behalf, 45/47 can provide his own suitably appropriate gavel to bang for the Miami summit … something tasteful in gold leaf or maybe 3D in ABS in red with MAGA printed on it? Maybe one of the Tech Bros could be stung for a solid contribution? ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2632 "2025-11-29T15:31:55Z")
I call him an isolationist, but there are exceptions. > **[Donald Trump says Venezuelan airspace is closed](https://www.ft.com/content/8acf0e8d-8383-48f3-a273-40712400f99d)** > > Announcement comes after military build-up by US forces in region > [@](#): > > Donald Trump on Saturday said that Venezuela’s airspace should be considered closed, as the US weighs launching strikes inside the country. “To all Airlines, Pilots, Drug Dealers, and Human Traffickers, please consider THE AIRSPACE ABOVE AND SURROUNDING VENEZUELA TO BE CLOSED IN ITS ENTIRETY”, Trump wrote in a post on his Truth Social platform. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2633 "2025-11-29T21:32:33Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I call him an isolationist, but there are exceptions. “Isolationist” except in cases where: a) a Major Distraction is absolutely vital!! Low poll numbers, Epstein, ornery Republicans voicing dissent = VITAL!!! b) profits may be found. Venezuela has OIL!!! c) many of the Trump Regime’s programs are failing because courts note the War Powers claimed don’t exist where we’re not at war. Solution: a WAR!!! ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2025, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2634 "2025-11-30T23:12:10Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I call him an isolationist, but there are exceptions. Trump’s only real policy position is “whatever I want at the moment”. Consistency isn’t even a consideration. As for isolationism, he’s not isolationist; he’s selfish. Not the same thing. He doesn’t object to threatening, demanding tribute, bullying or attacking other nations; what he objects to is the US doing anything helpful for anyone else. He wants other nations to send money and resources to the US (and thus Trump), because as far as he’s concerned the world exists solely to profit him, and only “losers” give _anything_ to anyone else. Trade is bad because the other person profits too, which means you are a “loser”. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2025, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2635 "2025-11-30T23:41:32Z")
Well said. The USA has for a long time used the rubric of “enlightened self interest” to guide its foreign policy. Which to a selfish grabby toddler looks a lot like “giving away the store now for nothing ever in return”. Compared to “enlightened self interest” trump’s simpler mantra of “Me take; you give” seems isolationist at first glance. But it comes from a completely different place. It still wants interaction with lots of foreign actors. Just not the same interactions we’re all used to seeing our government doing. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2636 "2025-12-04T04:05:14Z")
[New York Times: Trump Renames Institute of Peace for Himself](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/03/us/politics/trump-us-institute-peace-name.html?unlocked_article_code=1.6E8.ClTk.8jrxlub8nn7v&smid=url-share) > [@](#): > > The morning before Mr. Trump was scheduled to host a signing ceremony at the institute with the presidents of Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo, workers arrived at the building on the National Mall to install Mr. Trump’s name in large, silver letters to two sides of the exterior of the building, positioning his name to the left of where the institute’s name was already engraved into the facade. > > The result was a re-dubbing of the building as the “Donald J. Trump United States Institute of Peace.” ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2637 "2025-12-04T13:55:54Z")
Re my last post, it is indeed currently signed, on the building facade, as the “Donald J. Trump United States Institute of Peace.” But some press reports say that the actual new official name leaves out the United States. Friom WaPo: [White House renames building the ‘Donald J. Trump Institute of Peace’](https://wapo.st/4iHmUt8) > [@](#): > > Anna Kelly, a White House spokeswoman, wrote in an email Wednesday that the USIP was “once a bloated, useless entity that blew $50 million per year while delivering no peace.” > > “Now, the Donald J. Trump Institute of Peace, which is both beautifully and aptly named after a President who ended eight wars in less than a year, will stand as a powerful reminder of what strong leadership can accomplish for global stability,” Kelly added. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2638 "2025-12-04T14:03:41Z")
Excuse me WaPo, that’s Trump House renames building the ‘Donald J. Trump Institute of Peace’. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2639 "2025-12-04T15:02:17Z")
That’s coming. Since there will never be another ~~President~~ Eternal Leader working there, of course it’ll be renamed for the one and only first Eternal Leader. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2640 "2025-12-04T16:06:29Z")
Quoting the article: > [@PhillyGuy](#): > > a bloated, useless entity that blew $50 million per year while delivering no peace So it _is_ appropriate to name it after Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Sudan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chad_sudan/32/4509_2.png) [@Chad\_Sudan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chad_Sudan)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2641 "2025-12-04T19:52:58Z")
From the _[New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/02/us/politics/state-department-morale-survey.html?unlocked_article_code=1.6E8.TNEw.BN-5n3wzAJ1v&smid=url-share)_: “America’s professional diplomats feel demoralized and ignored, with fully 98 percent saying in a new survey that workplace morale has fallen since the Trump administration took over in January.” [How bad must things be to make even the right-wing diplomats feel this way?] “Diplomats sense that their input is not welcome, especially if it diverges from President Trump’s views.” And they are upset that Trump’s business cronies are more involved in U.S. diplomacy than the secretary of state is. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2642 "2025-12-04T20:29:02Z")
> [@Chad\_Sudan](#): > > “Diplomats sense that their input is not welcome, especially if it diverges from President Trump’s views.” And, they are probably despised by any country the are in because of Trump. Except, maybe Russia. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2643 "2025-12-04T20:58:24Z")
> [@Chad\_Sudan](#): > > “America’s professional diplomats feel demoralized and ignored, with fully 98 percent saying in a new survey that workplace morale has fallen since the Trump administration took over in January.” I’d like to know who the hell are the **TWO PERCENT** who believe morale **HASN’T** fallen since trump took over? Are they in a coma?? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2644 "2025-12-04T21:24:22Z")
They might be afraid they’re under surveillance. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2645 "2025-12-05T02:53:44Z")
> [@Chad\_Sudan](#): > > And they are upset that Trump’s business cronies are more involved in U.S. diplomacy than the secretary of state is. “Diplomacy” is now simply a business deal where Jared Kushner is sent in to extract as much cash as possible from other countries. The corruption and self-dealing is now out and above board. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774.md?page=131) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774.md?page=133)