# The current second Trump administration: a compendium of horrors

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 6, 2024, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774 "2024-11-06T09:17:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2646 "2025-12-05T02:58:27Z")

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[Wall Street Journal: Hegseth asked top admiral to resign after months of discord](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/hegseth-asked-top-admiral-to-resign-after-months-of-discord/ar-AA1RF6l9?cvid=69317c85342b4003a75834a602644d8b&ocid=ems.msn.dl.JadeDragonSnowMtChina)

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> But according to two Pentagon officials, Hegseth asked Adm. Alvin Holsey to step down, a de facto ouster that was the culmination of months of discord between Hegseth and the officer. It began days after President Trump’s inauguration in January and intensified months later when Holsey had initial concerns about the legality of lethal strikes on alleged drug boats in the Caribbean, according to former officials aware of the discussions. . . .
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> While Hegseth has dismissed a number of high-ranking military leaders since taking over the Pentagon, the ouster of a commander during an unfolding military operation was an extraordinary move, lawmakers and experts note.

The biggest problem isn’t, to me, getting rid of good people. Worse is who Hegseth may consider an acceptable replacement. And then, if we ever get back to a Democratic president, how do they return to normalcy AKA deMAGAfication without setting up an expectation that the Republicans will replace all the generals and admirals when they regain office.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2647 "2025-12-05T03:05:42Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> And then, if we ever get back to a Democratic president, how do they return to normalcy AKA deMAGAfication without setting up an expectation that the Republicans will replace all the generals and admirals when they regain office.

Realistically, they don’t. Now that the Republicans have learned they can get away with it they _will_ purge the government and military of dissenters any time they have power, regardless of what the Democrats do. The idea that the Republicans will restrain themselves if the Democrats do so has been disproven again and again.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2648 "2025-12-05T10:50:33Z")

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Yes. You can’t have a two-party democracy where one party is Fascist in all but name. You can have a two-party democracy where one is significantly more conservative than the other. But the entity currently wearing the name “Republican” is not that party.

First we eliminate the Fascists, their organization, their backers, and their adherents. _Then_ we go back to having a country. Winning elections in 2026 and 2028 and believing normalcy has been restored means it’ll last until 2030 or 2032 at most. Once re-elected, the Fascists won’t be voted out a second time. And frankly I’m skeptical they’ll permit being voted out this upcoming time.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2649 "2025-12-05T13:08:11Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> First we eliminate the Fascists, their organization, their backers, and their adherents.

This is what comes from mixing up fascism with a not even fully consolidated dictatorship.

It seems to me premature to have a thread on The first post-MAGA administration: a compendium of horrors.

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2650 "2025-12-15T16:19:17Z")

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I can’t even…

> **[Trump Posts Psychotic ‘TDS’ Insult to Murdered Rob Reiner](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-posts-jaw-dropping-insult-to-murdered-rob-reiner/)**
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> The president’s shocking post came hours after the director and his wife were found slain in their home.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2651 "2025-12-15T16:31:20Z")

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I miss the days when the psychopathic evil fuckers at least tried to hide their psychopathic evil fuckery.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2652 "2025-12-15T16:45:18Z")

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Also at Huffpost: [Trump Blames Rob Reiner For His Own Death In Truth Social Post | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-reacts-to-rob-reiner-death_n_694025a1e4b03a2812cefbaa)

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2653 "2025-12-15T17:01:24Z")

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It really is all “Me-me-me-me-me” with him, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2654 "2025-12-15T17:03:11Z")

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If anyone needed proof that DJT is a psychopath, they need wait no longer. Absolutely disgusting.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2655 "2025-12-15T17:20:43Z")

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If Trump had accidentally said “Charlie Kirk” instead of “Rob Reiner,” Pam Bondi would have indicted him, Kristi Noem would have deported him, and the MAGA-sphere would have called for his Impeachment.

We were _so close,_ too.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2656 "2025-12-15T19:17:10Z")

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[Which contradicts the stance of MAGA influencers.](https://www.axios.com/2025/12/15/rob-reiner-trump-charlie-kirk-maga)

> [President Trump](https://www.axios.com/politics-policy/donald-trump) torpedoed MAGA influencers’ calls for compassion after the killing of director [Rob Reiner](https://www.axios.com/2025/12/15/rob-reiner-director-home-deaths-homicide-investigation), mocking the longtime liberal activist as a victim of “Trump derangement syndrome.”
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> **Why it matters:** Many MAGA influencers vowed after the [assassination of Charlie Kirk](https://www.axios.com/2025/09/11/charlie-kirk-killing-trump-political-violence) that they would never celebrate or mock the untimely death of a political opponent.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2657 "2025-12-15T19:20:29Z")

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Did someone actually believe them when they said that?

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2658 "2025-12-15T19:21:15Z")

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Compassion for me but not for thee

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2659 "2025-12-15T19:25:04Z")

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The words of a pathological narcissist and genuine psychopath, full of self-praise while condemning the blameless victim of tragic violence. This is not any ordinary case of just “being an asshole”, this is a serious mental pathology.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2660 "2025-12-15T19:28:15Z")

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It’s been obvious for a while now that Trump is not compos mentis, be it dementia, pre-existing mental pathologies aggravated by age or just plain power corrupting absolutely.  
The question is, how far will he be allowed to go down this path?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2661 "2025-12-15T19:38:54Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> The question is, how far will he be allowed to go down this path?

As far as he feels like; nobody in a position to do so has any inclination to stand in his way. He’s never been unstoppable; it’s just that for his entire life everyone has stepped out of his path and let him do as he likes.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2662 "2025-12-15T19:40:30Z")

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I think that will be the case _until_ it doesn’t, at some point his enablers will see diminishing returns on their sycophancy and bail out.  
We’ll just have to hope this happens _before_ he’s done too much irreparable damage.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2663 "2025-12-15T20:06:41Z")

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How much is too much? He’s already done an awful lot.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2664 "2025-12-15T20:08:20Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> We’ll just have to hope this happens _before_ he’s done too much irreparable damage.

Way too late for that!

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2665 "2025-12-15T20:11:54Z")

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Well, too much _more_ damage.

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