# The current second Trump administration: a compendium of horrors

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 6, 2024, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774 "2024-11-06T09:17:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
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A fig of our imaginations.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2787 "2026-01-07T03:51:05Z")

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Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2788 "2026-01-07T15:46:25Z")

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Is this a _concern_ which Susan Collins sees before her?

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2789 "2026-01-07T20:45:15Z")

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ICE agents shoot and kill a woman driver in Minneapolis this morning.

> **[Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE officer during immigration-related...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/federal-law-enforcement-involved-ice-related-shooting-minneapolis-rcna252812)**
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> The Department of Homeland Security said it was a "vehicle ramming related" incident.

DHS says, of course, that the driver attempted to run over the LEOs, but that claim is disputed.

> **[Minneapolis ICE shooting: Eyewitness accounts contradict ICE statement](https://www.fox9.com/news/minneapolis-ice-shooting-witnesses)**
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> A woman was fatally shot by an ICE officer in Minneapolis Wednesday morning, but witness accounts contradict what federal officials say happened. Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey calls the claim the shooting was self-defense “bullshit" and is a “garbage...

> Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey calls the claim the shooting was self-defense “bullshit” and is a “garbage narrative” after seeing video of the shooting.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2790 "2026-01-07T21:57:38Z")

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You can see the video for yourself. The murderer was in front of the car, near the driver’s side, as she turned the wheel and started her right turn to drive away. She started slowly, and the murderer had plenty of time to move out of the way, which he did. Then he murdered her. Her name was Renee Nicole Good.

Nuremberg II can’t come soon enough.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2791 "2026-01-07T22:10:38Z")

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I don’t believe that day will ever come. “Never accountability for Trump” is the United States’ mission statement.

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**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2792 "2026-01-07T22:56:36Z")

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I wonder (and hope) that once he’s gone, accountability might happen. I don’t know if the Right can coalesce behind someone else and their infighting and wanting to kneecap rivals might allow justice. Of course, that could be a fairy tale I’m telling myself because shit’s so fucking bleak

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2793 "2026-01-07T23:05:29Z")

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Not that the answer in any way excuses a murder of any civilian by gov’t officials at point-blank, but (because I’m now embroiled in some off-line arguments) was the murdered woman a U.S. citizen?

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2794 "2026-01-07T23:33:25Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> was the murdered woman a U.S. citizen?

Yes, ID’d as Renee Good.

> **[Woman fatally shot by ICE officer in Minneapolis identified; Gov. Walz...](https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/minnesota/live-updates/minneapolis-federal-agents-protesters-clash-portland-avenue/)**
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> An ICE officer fatally shot a woman Wednesday morning in south Minneapolis, according to the Department of Homeland Security. A U.S. official identified her as Renee Good. City leaders said the victim was a legal observer of federal actions in the...

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2795 "2026-01-07T23:38:50Z")

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(dons flameproof suit) Let’s allow the authorities to do their jobs before automatically assuming she’s a martyr.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2796 "2026-01-07T23:46:59Z")

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Better put on 2. It’s bullshit they murdered her in cold blood. As far as I can see they did it because they could. And guess what? They can. We’ll never know who the shooter was, and he will face no consequences

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2797 "2026-01-08T00:08:48Z")

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One of the more well-known MAGA idiot trolls, Gunther Eagleman, tweeted this:

> [@](#):
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> FOR THE PEABODY BRAINS OUT THERE:
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> IF YOU ARE TOLD TO STOP YOUR VEHICLE AND YOU DON’T, IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT YOU DO NEXT BECAUSE YOU ARE THREAT.
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> I STAND WITH THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN OF ICE WHO ARE ATTACKED ON A DAILY BASIS AND HAVE NO PLANS TO CHANGE MY STANCE.
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> F.A.F.O.

To which I replied.

> [@](#):
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> By that rationale, you support Michael Byrd since Ashli Babbitt didn’t obey law enforcement, either.

No response yet. I don’t expect one.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2798 "2026-01-08T00:32:15Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> (dons flameproof suit) Let’s allow the authorities to do their jobs before automatically assuming she’s a martyr.

I am always on the side of not jumping to conclusions.

I did something that I never did before with a tragedy like this, which is to watch the video. My idea is that it might be a bad idea emotionally for me, and, anyway, you are unlikely to see the whole context. I’m not sure about the personal emotions. I did not see the victim.

There is an officer who was at the front left of the vehicle and who you cannot see until the car starts moving. I do not think the driver put that officer in immediate danger, but I am uncertain.

AFAIK, in the U.S., if you are told by police to get out of your car, and you drive away, that is a serious crime. It should NOT result in your being shot.

Although it is a bad idea, I think the police would be legally justified in starting a high speed chase that could well result in a fatal crash.

As reported in the New York Times, Kristi Noem said that ["the agent who killed her ‘used his training to save his life and those of his colleagues.’”](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/01/07/us/minnesota-shooting-ice?unlocked_article_code=1.C1A.1ivs.0ATvilFYJaUG&smid=url-share)

Based on the video, what Noem said is not accurate.

It is possible that the victim was killed by an frightented officer who the victim endangered a second or two earlier. I’m not saying that is true – it is just a best case interpretation of the police action.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2799 "2026-01-08T00:40:29Z")

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> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> We’ll never know who the shooter was, and he will face no consequences

I don’t know if his name has been released, but there is film showing enough of his face for an identification.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/D59mPgISZrI/maxresdefault.jpg "Trump’s Masked Secret Police MURDER MINNEAPOLIS WOMAN – Mayor Tells ICE to GET THE F\*CK OUT!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D59mPgISZrI&t=30s/)

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2800 "2026-01-08T01:44:30Z")

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I watched the video. The ICE thug was in no danger. It was flat-out murder.

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2801 "2026-01-08T02:49:32Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> (dons flameproof suit) Let’s allow the authorities to do their jobs before automatically assuming she’s a martyr.

This is America; the job of the authorities _is_ to persecute people the authorities don’t like. The ICE guy didn’t like her and shot her, since he was ICE he was by definition doing his job killing some random person just because he could. That sort of thing is what he was hired for.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2802 "2026-01-08T02:53:19Z")

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Somebody has GOT to know who this is.

> **[Steve N Cindy Greenwald](https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1880252415929763&set=gm.921907017613489&idorvanity=145933618544170)**

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2803 "2026-01-08T03:13:04Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> ICE agents shoot and kill a woman

I think you misspelled thug.

> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Based on the video, what Noem said is not accurate.

I think you misspelled fucking lied.

[CFSG says](https://www.facebook.com/330togo/posts/president-trump-has-issued-a-statement-on-minneapolis/1325638122917495/) the officer protected himself, was put into the hospital, and is recovering. He fucking lied, too.

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2804 "2026-01-08T04:20:14Z")

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According to [this video](https://youtu.be/IkyRSBKC6uw?si=oSudgHQ8glqWl4zH), a resident was a physician who was denied the opportunity to check the woman’s vital signs or render aid. He identified himself as a physician, and an ICE agent says (audible on the video), “I don’t care.”

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2805 "2026-01-08T04:26:42Z")

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Also in that video, a woman is screaming ‘you just killed my fucking neighbor’. If it’s true that the victim lived in the neighborhood, then it’s somewhat tough to believe that she was a domestic terrorist, as asserted by Kristi fucking Noem.

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