# The current second Trump administration: a compendium of horrors **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 6, 2024, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774 "2024-11-06T09:17:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2025, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/322 "2025-01-05T22:00:18Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Wait a minute. Wut? Stop all study of disease for eight years? Does he think that disease will just go sit in a corner for all that time? I’m pretty sure he thinks that disease is deliberate spread by the medical establishment, and that by stopping vaccinations, exiting WHO and so forth he’ll stop disease by stopping the people inflicting it. Pretty common “alt medicine” nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2025, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/323 "2025-01-05T22:31:14Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > “Bring back smallpox!” Make Smallpox Great Again! ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2025, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/324 "2025-01-08T21:36:19Z")
I was reading this Atlantic article about how Hitler actually consolidated his power and I found it frighteningly relevant. I don’t know if it is paywalled. I don’t have a subscription and it let me read it. > **[How Hitler Dismantled a Democracy in 53 Days — The Atlantic](https://apple.news/Ageef1_SCRqO7E9DoQIs3ng)** > > He used the constitution to shatter the constitution. January 08, 2025 Ninety-two years ago this month , on Monday morning, January 30, 1933, Adolf Hitler was appointed the 15th chancellor of the Weimar Republic. In one of the most astonishing... ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/325 "2025-01-16T02:08:19Z")
[Speaker Johnson removes chair of powerful House Intelligence Committee](https://apnews.com/article/house-intelligence-committee-speaker-0a28ddc03b3944b4d459f7ff5f0278bd#) > [@](#): > > [Mike] Turner [R-Ohio]. . . pushed back on [Trump’s false claims](https://apnews.com/article/haitian-immigrants-vance-trump-ohio-6e4a47c52b23ae2c802d216369512ca5) that Haitian migrants in his Ohio district were eating pets. . . . > > The top Democrat on the committee, Rep. Jim Himes, in a statement called Turner “a serious, security focused lawmaker dedicated at his core to the national security of the United States and to the thoughtful oversight of the Intelligence Community.” > > Himes added, “The removal of Chairman Turner makes our nation less secure and is a terrible portent for what’s to come.” I agree with Jim Himes. ---
**Author:** ![BlueOhio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/439d5e/32.png) [@BlueOhio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlueOhio)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/326 "2025-01-16T12:50:41Z")
Me too, for the most part. I’m in Turner’s district and he’s a typical GOP cretin but also one of the few GOP’ers that supported Ukraine (which explains the move). A huge air force base is in his district and he has done well in supporting it over the years so he as least benefited our district, as opposed to a super-cretin like Gym Jordan. ---
**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/327 "2025-01-18T01:39:12Z")
Roundups next week. Chicago announced! [93football](https://www.threads.net/@93football) [9m 9 minutes ago ](https://www.threads.net/@93football/post/DE8s9FdvDdE) This whole deportation spectacle will be a mess that defines Drumph’s presidency. I think most Americans want the border tightened up in a major way, but this gestapo tactic of ripping people out of their homes and workplaces is going to backfire majorly. Will be one of many missteps this knucklehead and his lunkhead followers will regret. > **[Patrick O'Neill (@93football) on Threads](https://www.threads.net/@93football/post/DE8s9FdvDdE?xmt=AQGzTqJTR1nLg3KjKZ-94zwbeqMilGs31RH2-ofdA1MUyA)** > > This whole deportation spectacle will be a mess that defines Drumph’s presidency. I think most Americans want the border tightened up in a major way, but this gestapo tactic of ripping people out of their homes and workplaces is going to backfire... ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/328 "2025-01-18T01:55:06Z")
The sources I’m seeing are saying ICE is committing 100 officers to this operation, which is a piddling small amount for a metro area of 9 million people. This is gonna be a PR stunt that accomplishes little, and I doubt it’s going to result in any deportations that weren’t already going to happen, but he’ll crow about it as if he just did the yuuugest deportation anyone’s ever seen, and the cult will lap it up. ETA: R/Chicago seems unimpressed. [https://www.reddit.com/r/chicago/comments/1i3vm60/wsj\_first\_mass\_deportations\_under\_trump\_to\_begin/](https://www.reddit.com/r/chicago/comments/1i3vm60/wsj_first_mass_deportations_under_trump_to_begin/) ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/329 "2025-01-18T02:04:18Z")
Reporting I’m seeing is that it will be more like 200 ICE agents. They likely have a list of people who have been arrested for various things that they will be looking for at their jobs or schools. Also, after all the migrants were bussed north by Abbott and DeSantis the number of people being housed in city operated shelters has ballooned. It is commonplace to see people on street corners and outside grocery stores selling sodas or chocolates and displaying signs asking for help and saying they are from Venezuela or take your pick of countries. It will be easy pickings for the ICE assholes to swoop in and grab them off the streets. Also, raiding any of the shelters set up by the city would likely be part of the plan. Yes, it is a large metro area but they will be able to kidnap a large number of people initially. The objective is more about instilling fear and terrorizing these people in the thinking it will stop them coming over the border. It is likely to get very ugly very quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/330 "2025-01-18T02:07:11Z")
Also, the curdent forecast for Tuesday is a high of 5 degrees. [https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=41.883229&lon=-87.632398](https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=41.883229&lon=-87.632398) ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/331 "2025-01-18T02:26:29Z")
> [@TeroSunbear](#): > > I think most Americans want the border tightened up in a major way, but this gestapo tactic of ripping people out of their homes and workplaces is going to backfire majorly. On the contrary, I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what right-leaning Americans want to see. Because it’s _not_ about the border, it’s about race war; they want a wave of terror across the non-white population of the US. And fortifying the border doesn’t _do_ that; for that, you need to target the people who live here. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/332 "2025-01-18T02:43:10Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > This is gonna be a PR stunt that accomplishes little… The most important thing will be lots of pictures, lots of social media coverage, lots of lib outrage and fist-shaking contrasted with MAGA cheering and attaboys for trump’s goons. They don’t have to accomplish anything, they just have too **look** like they are. A lot of unlucky people who came to the USA hoping to stay and find work will be (virtually) displayed with their heads on pikes. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/333 "2025-01-18T08:20:47Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > [@Smapti](#): > > > > This is gonna be a PR stunt that accomplishes little… > > The most important thing will be lots of pictures, lots of social media coverage, lots of lib outrage and fist-shaking contrasted with MAGA cheering and attaboys for trump’s goons. They don’t have to accomplish anything, they just have too **look** like they are. Exactly this, and well put. The whole “mass deportation” thing was part of Trump’s demagoguery to appeal to the bigotry and ignorance of the MAGA cult, and all that it requires to satisfy them is a spectacle. As always with this crowd, facts don’t matter. Actually doing what he promised was logistically impossible, morally reprehensible, and if attempted would have cost billions and precipitated a wave of violence tantamount to a civil war. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Sudan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chad_sudan/32/4509_2.png) [@Chad\_Sudan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chad_Sudan)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/334 "2025-01-18T09:31:17Z")
Agreed that the incoming administration is going to find it very difficult in practice to implement mass deportations. However, those deportations are a longtime obsession of MAGA and one of its main animating forces. There will be a sustained and wide-scale effort to deport people. It’s not going to be a perfunctory photo op. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/335 "2025-01-18T17:39:14Z")
I agree that it won’t be perfunctory. But it also won’t be on the grand, sweeping, thorough scale that he has promised. That would be impossible. * * * > **[Opinion | How Doctors and Nurses Can Protect Undocumented Immigrants](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/17/opinion/mass-deportations-undocumented-immigrants-health.html?unlocked_article_code=1.qE4.cGd6.Jactf3Z5Me2M&smid=url-share)** > > Doctors have a responsibility to reassure their patients, regardless of immigration status, that they are welcome and protected. (Gift link. Article by a doctor.) > It was hardly two weeks after the election when a doctor in our clinic received a letter from one of her patients, an undocumented immigrant who feared that Immigration and Customs Enforcement might detain her under a second Trump term. > > The patient had diabetes and suffered from **rotator cuff tendinitis, which makes reaching backward quite painful.** “Is there any possibility you can write a letter,” she asked, “stating that **if they handcuff me, can they please handcuff me with my hands in front of me?”** She was also panicked about her diabetes. “I am scared that they will not allow me to take any medications in the immigration camps.” > > The patient asked that if the doctor needed an in-person visit with her, “may it be scheduled before January?” She would do only virtual visits after Trump took office. “I’m scared I.C.E. will be in train stations and bus stops,” she said. > > As a physician, it was hard to read this without feeling sickened. > … My bold. As a human being, it was hard to read this without feeling sickened. ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/336 "2025-01-18T17:45:15Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I agree that it won’t be perfunctory. But it also won’t be on the grand, sweeping, thorough scale that he has promised. That would be impossible. > > * * * > > [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/17/opinion/mass-deportations-undocumented-immigrants-health.html?unlocked\_article\_code=1.qE4.cGd6.Jactf3Z5Me2M&smid=url-share](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/17/opinion/mass-deportations-undocumented-immigrants-health.html?unlocked_article_code=1.qE4.cGd6.Jactf3Z5Me2M&smid=url-share) > > (Gift link. Article by a doctor.) > > > It was hardly two weeks after the election when a doctor in our clinic received a letter from one of her patients, an undocumented immigrant who feared that Immigration and Customs Enforcement might detain her under a second Trump term. > > > > The patient had diabetes and suffered from **rotator cuff tendinitis, which makes reaching backward quite painful.** “Is there any possibility you can write a letter,” she asked, “stating that **if they handcuff me, can they please handcuff me with my hands in front of me?”** She was also panicked about her diabetes. “I am scared that they will not allow me to take any medications in the immigration camps.” > > > > The patient asked that if the doctor needed an in-person visit with her, “may it be scheduled before January?” She would do only virtual visits after Trump took office. “I’m scared I.C.E. will be in train stations and bus stops,” she said. > > > > As a physician, it was hard to read this without feeling sickened. > > … > > My bold. > > As a human being, it was hard to read this without feeling sickened. As a social worker and a human being this makes me both sickened and terrified. And angry. Really angry. ---
**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/337 "2025-01-18T17:48:58Z")
Coming soon: a pledge of allegiance to Trump, not the United States. Hegsted will orchestrate this. > **[MarleneDuhaney (she/her) (@marleneduhaney\_keeping\_it\_real) on Threads](https://www.threads.net/@marleneduhaney_keeping_it_real/post/DE9oClNRRw0?xmt=AQGzLKd-bMlLaPshbkwiVR6rvcxJoqrmzrFCBJ7nJXKoNA)** > > This is terrifying. WAKE UP AMERICA! Take heed to these warnings. This is no longer a drill! The end of the beginning is upon us. Be prepared! ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/338 "2025-01-18T17:59:58Z")
> [@TeroSunbear](#): > > Coming soon: a pledge of allegiance to Trump, not the United States. One nation under Trump, with liberty and justice abolished. ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/339 "2025-01-18T18:04:20Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > > [@TeroSunbear](#): > > > > Coming soon: a pledge of allegiance to Trump, not the United States. > > One nation under Trump, with liberty and justice abolished. So I guess this is where my refusal puts me on a list or worse? ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/340 "2025-01-18T18:38:14Z")
> [@TeroSunbear](#): > > Coming soon: a pledge of allegiance to Trump, not the United States. > Hegsted will orchestrate this. Something like that was easy to see coming even before the election [P&E thread “Why Trump running for President” Oct 2024]: > [@Why Trump is running for president](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-running-for-president/1008851/24): > > I’m sure Trump would have no problem changing the first line of the Pledge of Allegiance from “I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America” to “I pledge allegiance to the President of the United States of America” (as long as he’s the President). > > ETA: If the pledge change was a story in _The Onion_ that people thought was true, I’m sure his supporters would bend over backwards to defend it. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/341 "2025-01-18T19:22:10Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I agree that it won’t be perfunctory. But it also won’t be on the grand, sweeping, thorough scale that he has promised. That would be impossible. Nazi Germany - which they admire - demonstrates that it _can_ be done. Not as quickly as they imagine, but genocide is not a new concept. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774.md?page=18)