# The current second Trump administration: a compendium of horrors

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 6, 2024, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774 "2024-11-06T09:17:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/1802 "2025-06-14T15:13:56Z")

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This is an opportunity for any decent president of either political stripe to defuse the situation and discourage copycats. Will Trump? Don’t hold your breath. We may get another “good people on both sides” diatribe. He’s sufficiently demented that he probably approves of this for helping “make Ameica great again” and probably correctly concluded that the perp is one of his supporters.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/1803 "2025-06-14T15:16:57Z")

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Thread on the Minnesota shootings:

> [@Breaking news: Minnesota assassin targeting Democrats](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats/1019626/8):
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> I’m watching CNN on this right now. The Hortmans are dead, as Mr. Walz reported. The Hoffmans survived the shooting, but are in hospital. The CNN anchor said they were in surgery. The area is under a “shelter in place” warning. Plus, since the attacker was disguised as a police officer, people are being warned not to open their door to a single police officer. Coverage continues.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/1804 "2025-06-14T15:54:46Z")

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I saw the thread, and I agree we need a dedicated thread for that. But as a “breaking news” thread, I didn’t think my Trump comment would be particularly well received there, so I put it here instead.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/1805 "2025-06-16T22:12:26Z")

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The demented Orange Blowhard simply cannot summon the discipline to stay on topic, even at a major international summit …

> Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney interrupted a question and answer session with Donald Trump at Monday’s G7 summit before the U.S. president got too much into the weeds discussing ICE raids on “blue cities,” according to CNN correspondent Kristen Holmes.
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> As Trump began to rehash his usual talking points, claiming former President Joe Biden allowed “murderers, killers, people from gangs, people from jails,” into the United States, the Canadian leader — and host of the meeting which is being held in Alberta — stepped in.
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> “If you don’t mind, just — I’m going to exercise my role, if you will, as G7 chair, since we have a few more minutes with the president and his team, and then we actually have to start the meeting to address some of these big issues,” Carney said.

> **[Canadian PM 'shuts off' Trump as press conference heads 'off the rails': CNN](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-canada-2672378971/)**
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> Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney interrupted a question and answer session with Donald Trump at Monday's G7 summit before the U.S. president got too much into the weeds discussing ICE raids on "blue cities," according to CNN correspondent Kristen...

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**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/1806 "2025-06-16T23:02:29Z")

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Good for Carney. Trump needs to get shut down as often as possible.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/1807 "2025-06-17T00:16:03Z")

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Preferably with a rolled-up newspaper.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/1808 "2025-06-17T01:27:33Z")

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With a lead pipe on it.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/1809 "2025-06-17T03:04:45Z")

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[Trump Mobile Phone Company Announced by President’s Family](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/16/us/trump-mobile-phone.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Pk8.5UU6.4O3M65-GaW9s&smid=url-share)

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> The announcement by Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr., the president’s eldest sons, who run the Trump Organization, left some basic questions unanswered.
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> The new $499 gold-toned Android phones would be designed and manufactured in the United States, but it was not clear how or where. . . .
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> Trump Mobile offers a flagship “47 plan” for $47.45 a month, a reference to Mr. Trump’s two terms as president. Customers can switch to Trump Mobile by calling 888-Trump45.

The $47.45 includes [”mental health support.”](https://www.trump.com/media/trump-mobile-launches-a-bold-new-wireless-service)

As they say, I can’t make this stuff up.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/1810 "2025-06-17T09:19:02Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> The $47.45 includes [”mental health support.”](https://www.trump.com/media/trump-mobile-launches-a-bold-new-wireless-service)

If anyone needs mental health support, it’d be anyone buying these phones.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/1811 "2025-06-17T17:28:04Z")

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Breaking news as I type this, Brad Lander, comptroller for NYC and Democratic mayoral candidate, arrested outside of an immigration hearing in Manhattan. Developing story, not many details yet. No one seems to know if he’s still in custody as of now.

> **[Brad Lander, NYC comptroller and mayoral candidate, is arrested outside...](https://apnews.com/article/brad-lander-nyc-immigration-court-arrest-6ed341297efab31a08a14421674d8ed8)**
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> New York City comptroller and Democratic mayoral candidate Brad Lander has been arrested at a federal building in Manhattan as he was trying to accompany a person out of an immigration courtroom.

> A reporter with The Associated Press witnessed Lander’s arrest at a federal building in Manhattan. The person Lander was walking out of the courtroom was also arrested.

> Lander had spent the morning observing immigration court hearings and told an AP reporter that he was there to “accompany” some immigrants out of the building.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/1812 "2025-06-17T19:23:08Z")

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‘Warrant? We ain’t got no warrant! We don’t need no warrant! I don’t have to show you any stinking warrant!’

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/1813 "2025-06-17T21:10:38Z")

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From the aforementioned article:

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> The White House did not respond well to Wolff’s account of the festivities, instead opting to publicly slander Wolff as a fraudster and a “lying sack of shit.”
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> “He routinely fabricates stories originating from his sick and warped imagination, only possible because he has a severe and debilitating case of Trump Derangement Syndrome that has rotted his peanut-sized brain,” White House communications director Steven Cheung told the Beast.

This is the _official_ statement from the White House communications director.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/1814 "2025-06-17T21:19:22Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> From the aforementioned article:
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> > The White House did not respond well to Wolff’s account of the festivities, instead opting to publicly slander Wolff as a fraudster and a “lying sack of shit.”

What article now?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/1815 "2025-06-17T22:11:59Z")

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[Mark Cuban thinks the Trump phone could be all about crypto fees](https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/mark-cuban-thinks-the-trump-phone-could-be-all-about-crypto-fees/ar-AA1GSD8v)

> “I think the smart game they are probably playing is to put a crypto wallet on the phone that leverages WLF, $Trump, and their stable coins,” Cuban posted in response to the product launch. WLF is a reference to crypto firm World Liberty Financial that’s connected with the Trumps.
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> “Whatever transactions they can create generates fees for them, and there are so many way to sell things and pre-load whatever they want,” he added.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/1816 "2025-06-17T23:20:05Z")

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Bring your own phone supposedly works now, but:

[I tried signing up for Trump Mobile service](https://wapo.st/43LrhgQ)

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> Trump Mobile successfully billed my credit card Monday — at a cost that’s considerably higher than the advertised price — but I haven’t been able to actually start using the wireless service yet.
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> Once I entered my personal information and credit card details, a “plan telecom tax” of $17.25 a month was added to the advertised monthly price of $47.45.
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> That’s a significant cost bump, and it’s not clear if that’s all mandated government taxes or other fees described as taxes, which is a tactic that has been used by some telecommunications providers. . . .
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> Sure enough, I did see a QR code and “Activate Now” button in my Trump Mobile online customer account Tuesday morning. When I clicked that button, though, the page for options to turn on my Trump Mobile service said “coming soon!”

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/1817 "2025-06-17T23:25:46Z")

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If Trump actually came up with that idea, it’s probably the smartest thing he’s ever contrived.

So basically the Trump phone will be just the ticket criminals need to conduct illegal activities. Right in lone with paying the mob boss his cut.

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/1818 "2025-06-17T23:36:40Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Warrant? We ain’t got no warrant! We don’t need no warrant! I don’t have to show you any stinking warrant!’

Yes, according to the article Lander specifically asked the agents to produce a warrant. I read elsewhere that he had also asked for the badge numbers of the agents.

There are a number of places which provide information on how people are supposed to respond when approached by ICE agents, either in public or at their home. Primary among these is to ask the agents to produce a warrant. I’ve often wondered whether ICE agents would actually do so. Now we know.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/1819 "2025-06-17T23:45:17Z")

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> No one seems to know if he’s still in custody as of now.

Quick update, he was released as of about an hour ago I think.

> **[New York City Comptroller Brad Lander released hours after his arrest at an...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/new-york-city-comptroller-brad-lander-detained-ice-mayoral-campaign-sa-rcna213540)**
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> His detainment follows a series of dramatic confrontations between federal law enforcement and Democrats opposing President Donald Trump's immigration policies.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/1820 "2025-06-17T23:49:52Z")

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> Brad Lander, comptroller for NYC and Democratic mayoral candidate, arrested outside of an immigration hearing in Manhattan. Developing story, not many details yet. No one seems to know if he’s still in custody as of now.

NPR reported about two hours ago that **[Lander had already been released and no charges were filed.](https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-mayoral-candidate-comptroller-brad-lander-detained-by-ice-campaign-says)**

I’m wondering how much of the cuffing and brief detainments (like Senator Padilla’s last week) is for show? Is there going to be a next step — actually charging one of the Democratic politicians and see how far they can go?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/1821 "2025-06-17T23:55:43Z")

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> [@bordelond](#):
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> I’m wondering how much of the cuffing and brief detainments (like Senator Padilla’s last week) is for show?

From the NBC link in @Jihi’s post:

> The Department of Homeland Security said Lander, a mayoral candidate, had been arrested for “assaulting law enforcement and impeding a federal officer.” In [a brief statement on social media,](https://x.com/DHSgov/status/1935036063380291829) DHS said: **“It is wrong that politicians seeking higher office undermine law enforcement safety to get a viral moment.** No one is above the law, and if you lay a hand on a law enforcement officer, you will face consequences.”

My bold.

Is it likewise wrong for DHS enforcement personnel to arrest people with a lot of fanfare and hoopla **to get a viral moment** , hmmm? Or is this yet another case of IOWRDI\*?  
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\* It’s Okay When Republicans Do It

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