# The curse of same sex marriage, according to FounderChurch **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 15, 2012, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331 "2012-07-15T19:07:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331/1 "2012-07-15T19:07:52Z")
These blueberries of posts are courtesy of a new member, with an apparent personal agenda. I just feel the level of response this wacko deserves is best handled in the pit. > [@Polygamy: The Answers](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polygamy-the-answers/628274/17): > > **The list of same sex marriage negatives is enormous**. For one it will cost the economy at least a few hundred billion dollars a year. That is economic. > > **And it will help overburden our immigration** by allowing men to bring male wives in, along with their relatives, so it opens another door to large numbers of immigrants. > > \*\*And there is the increase in expensive diseases \*\*that are related to gay sex practices. > > **Don’t get me started on all the negatives involved in same sex marriage**. It deserves a thread of its own. > > **BTW** : There is NO contradiction. You read the sentence incorrectly. > > 🙂 And > [@Polygamy: The Answers](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polygamy-the-answers/628274/49): > > **YES, they are very different** , Same Sex “Marriage” is always bad and negative with no redeeming social values, while Plural Marriage is always a positive with lots of redeeming social values. Well, I did quote him as saying this deserved a thread of its own, so what the hell, here it is. I’ll reserve comment until I can do it without excessive use of four letter words. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331/2 "2012-07-15T19:18:55Z")
Don’t expect him to show up. He’s already announced his departure due to the onerous requirement that he cite things. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331/3 "2012-07-15T19:26:54Z")
Og dam it, post fuckin’ links! ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331/4 "2012-07-15T19:29:28Z")
You can click the little arrows by his name in the quotes, or here’s the thread in question. > **[Polygamy: The Answers](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=658584)** > > \*\*Nothing wrong with Polygamy \*\*from any point of view other than the fact that we as a society are addicted to monogamy for reasons we do not know about, and/or don’t understand. There are two general kinds of ancient societies, dictatorships, and... ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331/5 "2012-07-15T19:46:37Z")
Are all the wackos a seasonal thing? As of late they seem to be coming out of the woodwork, I know there is another thread about this but it just seems so over the top. Really a polygamist just pops up outta nowhere WTF? Along with White Power Wotan dip shit, anti evolution bozo and all the other crazies. Anyway just had to vent a little **CAPT** ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331/6 "2012-07-15T19:54:54Z")
School summer break. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331/7 "2012-07-15T19:55:52Z")
Shoot fish in a barrel much? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331/8 "2012-07-15T20:01:02Z")
Are you kidding – this guy’s comedy gold. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331/9 "2012-07-15T20:02:29Z")
Yeah but anyone can get a laugh if they work blue! ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331/10 "2012-07-15T20:27:22Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Og dam it, post fuckin’ links! You’ve been here for 11 years and almost 25,000 posts, and you still haven’t worked out how links in quotes work? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331/11 "2012-07-15T20:45:51Z")
I’m pretty sure quote boxes haven’t had the referral arrow for the past 11 years. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331/12 "2012-07-15T20:53:39Z")
> [@Capt\_Kirk](#): > > Are all the wackos a seasonal thing? As of late they seem to be coming out of the woodwork, I know there is another thread about this but it just seems so over the top. Really a polygamist just pops up outta nowhere WTF? Along with White Power Wotan dip shit, anti evolution bozo and all the other crazies. Anyway just had to vent a little There an older thread in GD about Polygamy. I suspect our purple friend found it through Google and decided to start his own thread on the same topic. Ditto the White Power guy. There were a bunch of older threads on racism started by **NDD** , I suspect those drew him in. Google has made this place like Beetlejuice. You say a word to many times, and it summons weirdos. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331/13 "2012-07-16T01:00:03Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Yeah but anyone can get a laugh if they work blue! Very nice. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331/14 "2012-07-16T01:06:38Z")
> [@](#): > > These blueberries of posts Og dammit, I LIKE blueberries, don’t sully their good name! > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Yeah but anyone can get a laugh if they work blue! This almost makes up for it. I tried reading the thread, but there’s only so much stupid I can tolerate in one day. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331/15 "2012-07-16T01:28:15Z")
Let’s not forget: Gays started the war in Iraq. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331/16 "2012-07-16T01:30:48Z")
Some people have made the mistake of seeing Shunt’s work as a load of rubbish about railway timetables, but clever people like me, who talk loudly in restaurants, see this as a deliberate ambiguity, a plea for understanding in a mechanized world. The points are frozen, the beast is dead. What is the difference? What indeed is the point? The point is frozen, the beast is late out of Paddington. The point is taken. If La Fontaine’s elk would spurn Tom Jones the engine must be our head, the dining car our oesophagus, the guard’s van our left lung, the cattle truck our shins, the first-class compartment the piece of skin at the nape of the neck and the level crossing an electric elk called Simon. The clarity is devastating. But where is the ambiguity? It’s over there in a box. Shunt is saying the 8.15 from Gillingham when in reality he means the 8.13 from Gillingham. The train is the same only the time is altered. Ecce homo, ergo elk. La Fontaine knew his sister and knew her bloody well. The point is taken, the beast is moulting, the fluff gets up your nose. The illusion is complete; it is reality, the reality is illusion and the ambiguity is the only truth. But is the truth, as Hitchcock observes, in the box? No there isn’t room, the ambiguity has put on weight. The point is taken, the elk is dead, the beast stops at Swindon, Chabrol stops at nothing, I’m having treatment and La Fontaine can get knotted. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331/17 "2012-07-16T02:14:44Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > I’m pretty sure quote boxes haven’t had the referral arrow for the past 11 years. Also, I sometimes read without actually logging in, and in that case, the arrows don’t show. I only log in when I’ve got something (sigh, usually banal and obvious) to say. How long _have_ the referral arrows been active? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331/18 "2012-07-16T02:19:46Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > Some people have made the mistake of seeing Shunt’s work as a load of rubbish about railway timetables, but clever people like me, who talk loudly in restaurants, see this as a deliberate ambiguity, a plea for understanding in a mechanized world. The points are frozen, the beast is dead. What is the difference? What indeed is the point? The point is frozen, the beast is late out of Paddington. The point is taken. If La Fontaine’s elk would spurn Tom Jones the engine must be our head, the dining car our oesophagus, the guard’s van our left lung, the cattle truck our shins, the first-class compartment the piece of skin at the nape of the neck and the level crossing an electric elk called Simon. The clarity is devastating. But where is the ambiguity? It’s over there in a box. Shunt is saying the 8.15 from Gillingham when in reality he means the 8.13 from Gillingham. The train is the same only the time is altered. Ecce homo, ergo elk. La Fontaine knew his sister and knew her bloody well. The point is taken, the beast is moulting, the fluff gets up your nose. The illusion is complete; it is reality, the reality is illusion and the ambiguity is the only truth. But is the truth, as Hitchcock observes, in the box? No there isn’t room, the ambiguity has put on weight. The point is taken, the elk is dead, the beast stops at Swindon, Chabrol stops at nothing, I’m having treatment and La Fontaine can get knotted. It’s… ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331/19 "2012-07-16T02:57:06Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > How long _have_ the referral arrows been active? If I had to guess, since updating to vBulletin 3.7. It’s possible that it came with an earlier upgrade, though. ---
**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331/20 "2012-07-16T03:10:02Z")
He’s convinced me. I never thought about the fact that married monogamous gay couples were spreading disease. Once he explained it, and pointed out that polygynists with their multiple partners were the obvious solution to stopping the spread of STDs, it all began to make sense. Thanks, FC! You’ve showed me the error of my ways with your rock-solid logic! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-curse-of-same-sex-marriage-according-to-founderchurch/628331.md?page=2)