# The Daily Feud: Rock, Roll, and the Road by SSG Schwartz \[Game Over\]

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 24, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251 "2009-02-24T19:17:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/61 "2009-02-25T15:40:01Z")

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I am hoping my answer of “Van Halen” and “Van Halen brown M/M” will be matched, because it is clearly what I meant. Honest. It is.

Actually it really is, I didn’t think the question was looking for specific details, but just the party of the contract. Oh well, if it is, it is, if not, OK too. At least I don’t be any formatting of any kind and it won’t be DQed.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/62 "2009-02-25T15:49:26Z")

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**notfrommensa** , Yes, yes… Calm down! 😉

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/63 "2009-02-25T15:57:19Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
>
> … wondering if “Gibson” and “Les Paul” will be counted together or separately …

Hmm… good question. The question reads “brand.” That means manufacturer, to me. As in Gibson, Fender, Washburn…

[Gibson](http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars.aspx) makes lots of guitars, including the Les Paul.

If you say “Gibson” or “Gibson Les Paul”, that counts together, because I almost always take the first part of a “double” answer. If you say only “Les Paul” - that is specific and must be counted alone.

Same with Fender, Fender Stratocaster, and plain Stratocaster.

(The reason I pick the first part of a “double” answer is because it usually matches more people.)  
ETA: You’re #49, BTW.

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**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/64 "2009-02-25T16:38:17Z")

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1. Turn the Page

2. Stay

3. Spinal Tap

4. Walk the Line

5. Frank Sinatra

6. Jennifer Lopez’s

7. 5

8. Fender

9. Jim Morrison

10. Ringo Starr

11. Bob Seger and the Silver Bullet Band; would I have done better with the slightly (but only slightly) superior The Road, by Jackson Browne?

12. Jackson Browne again - not about the road originally, but it became so after the revised lyrics

13. Elvis didn’t find fame, he found infamy 🙂

14. The lone missing Beatle ☹

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/65 "2009-02-25T16:45:42Z")

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> [@Rebo](#):
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> Hmm… good question. The question reads “brand.” That means manufacturer, to me. As in Gibson, Fender, Washburn…

Brand \<\> manufacturer.

A non guitar example:

Procter & Gamble is a manufacturer of consumer goods. Their brands include Ivory Soap, Tide, Dawn, Pampers, Pringles. Pringles comes in many varieties and sizes.

Honda Motors is a manufacturer of automobiles, motorcyles, and other mechanical objects. In their automobile division, their brands include the Civic, Accord, CR-V, Legend, Integra, etc. Those each come in a number of configurations. Okay, usually with a carmaker you think Make/Model. But the model is for Honda, the “brand”.

Coca-Cola is a company, and a Coke is a brand. So is Sprite, Diet Coke, Sierra Mist, Mountain Dew, etc.

Your definition actually would give me the highest score\*, but your assertion is not correct.  
\*Didn’t mean I’d get the highest score in this game; I’m pretty sure I won’t. I meant it would give me a higher score than my definition of brand.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/66 "2009-02-25T16:58:03Z")

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Your logic is impeccable, as usual. The problem then would be:

Do I group the Les Pauls with the Gibson Les Pauls, and let the Gibsons stand alone? Or just throw all the guitars (brands) made by Gibson together?

(I don’t even know how many answers we’re talking about here.)

I tell you what, the decision making behind the grouping is one of the hardest parts of scoring these Feuds! 🙂

I guess I’ll figure it out on the fly, after adding all the entries to the scoresheet. **Fiddle Peghead** is #50.

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> [@Rebo](#):
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> Your logic is impeccable, as usual. The problem then would be:
> 
> Do I group the Les Pauls with the Gibson Les Pauls, and let the Gibsons stand alone? Or just throw all the guitars (brands) made by Gibson together?

To be fair, I can think of some brands that are just the company, but it’s the exception. United Airlines would be a company and pretty much a brand. But most companies split into multiple brands.

For guitars, your guess is as good as mine. But as usual, I’m sure you’ll get lots of “help” along the way.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/68 "2009-02-25T17:09:32Z")

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Gibson and Fender are **brands**. Les Paul and Stratocaster are **models**.

(Those two are the only specific models mentioned in this feud; no one went with SG, Telecaster, etc.)

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/69 "2009-02-25T17:34:02Z")

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> [@Rebo](#):
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> Do I group the Les Pauls with the Gibson Les Pauls, and let the Gibsons stand alone? Or just throw all the guitars (brands) made by Gibson together?

I would group the Les Pauls with the Gibsons, and the Strats with the Fenders.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/70 "2009-02-25T19:05:26Z")

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That will be the easiest for me, and give everyone the most points. Commencing scoring.

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1. Name a song about how hard it is to be a musical act on the road.   
**1. Turn the Page 25**

2. The Load Out/Stay 4

3. Homeward Bound 3

4. Faithfully 2

5. It’s a Long Way to the Top (If You Wanna Rock ‘n’ Roll) 2

6. On the Road Again 2

7. A Hard Day’s Night 1

8. Cats in the Cradle 1

9. I’m Comin’ Home 1

10. Leaving (on a Jet Plane) 1

11. Limelight 1

12. Lodi 1

13. Long Distance 1

14. Miss You 1

15. Roundabout 1

16. Running on Empty 1

17. Shooting Star 1

18. Truckin’ 1

19. Name a song about how good it is to be a musical act on the road.   
**2. On the Road Again 19**

20. We’re an American Band 16

21. The Load Out/Stay 3

22. Travelin’ Band 3

23. Rock and Roll Band 2

24. Fame 1

25. It’s a Long Way to the Top (If You Wanna Rock ‘n’ Roll) 1

26. Life’s Been Good 1

27. Nothing But a Good Time 1

28. Rock Star 1

29. Rocking all over the world 1

30. What’s Your Name 1

31. Name a movie about a fictional musical artist/band.   
**3. This is Spinal Tap 42**

32. That Thing You Do 3

33. Almost Famous 2

34. Blues Brothers 2

35. Dreamgirls 1

36. Name a movie about a real musical artist/band.   
**4. Walk the Line 12**

37. A Hard Day’s Night 7

38. The Doors 6

39. Help! 4

40. Ray 4

41. The Last Waltz 3

42. Great Balls of Fire 2

43. The Buddy Holly Story 2

44. Anvil 1

45. Bird 1

46. La Bamba 1

47. Let It Be 1

48. Mad dogs and Englishmen 1

49. Pass 1

50. Purple Rain 1

51. The Filth and the Fury 1

52. The Spice Girls Movie 1

53. Woodstock 1

54. Other than Elvis, name a musical artist who has found fame in acting.   
**5. Frank Sinatra 14**

55. David Bowie 6

56. Will Smith 6

57. Madonna 4

58. Mark Wahlberg 3

59. Ice-T 2

60. Barbra Streisand 1

61. Bette Midler 1

62. Beyonce 1

63. Bing Crosby 1

64. Cher 1

65. Dean Martin 1

66. Dwight Yoakam 1

67. Eminem 1

68. jason timberlake 1

69. Jennifer Hudson 1

70. Jon Bon Jovi 1

71. Kris Kristofferson 1

72. Meat Loaf 1

73. Sting 1

74. Whitney Houston 1

75. Name a well known contract rider.   
**6. Van Halen - no brown M&Ms 45**

76. Jennifer Lopez - white flowers 2

77. All groupies allowed backstage must be young, female & blonde 1

78. artist’s favorite food 1

79. Iggy Pop’s 1

80. On average, how many 18-wheeler trucks does a “big” band need to set up a show? (Round to the nearest 5 - 15, 20, 25, etc.)   
**7. 20 27**

81. 10 8

82. 15 4

83. 25 4

84. 5 4

85. 12 1

86. 2 1

87. 30 1

88. Name a brand of electric guitar popular among rock stars.   
**8. Fender 34**

89. Gibson 16

90. Name a rock star (besides Elvis) who died in the 70’s.   
**9. Jim Morrison 21**

91. Jimi Hendrix 16

92. Jim Croce 3

93. Keith Moon 3

94. Duane Allman 2

95. Janis Joplin 2

96. John Bonham 1

97. Ronnie Van Zant 1

98. Sid Vicious 1

99. Name a rock performer that has NOT been inducted into the hall of fame.   
**10. KISS 14**

100. Alice Cooper 5

101. Britney Spears 2

102. Jimmy Buffett 2

103. Kurt Cobain 2

104. Axl Rose 1

105. Cat Stevens 1

106. Chicago 1

107. Chubby Checker 1

108. George Thorogood 1

109. Iggy Pop 1

110. Iron Butterfly 1

111. Joe Jackson 1

112. Jon Bon Jovi 1

113. Justin Timberlake 1

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> [@Rebo](#):
>
> 1. Name a rock performer that has NOT been inducted into the hall of fame.   
> **10. KISS 14**
> 2. Alice Cooper 5
> 3. Britney Spears 2
> 4. Jimmy Buffett 2
> 5. Kurt Cobain 2
> 6. Axl Rose 1
> 7. Cat Stevens 1
> 8. Chicago 1
> 9. Chubby Checker 1
> 10. George Thorogood 1
> 11. Iggy Pop 1
> 12. Iron Butterfly 1
> 13. Joe Jackson 1
> 14. Jon Bon Jovi 1
> 15. Justin Timberlake 1

What happened to the Moody Blues? Three of us chose them.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/73 "2009-02-25T20:52:15Z")

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Hey, you didn’t count my answer for #10–the Sex Pistols.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/74 "2009-02-25T20:53:00Z")

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Already mentioned above

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I think the scoring hiccuped on "The " . I noticed no bands starting with that article were counted.

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And the winner is ~~~drumroll~~~ our resident rock star! Way to go **Swampus**! ::flings confetti:: **swampbear** got 9/10 top answers. Great job! Perfect was 506.00.

Thanks everyone! Thanks, **SSG Schwartz**! Sorry you didn’t get to play your own feud. ☹

New one up in a bit…  
\*\*1. swampbear 500.00 \*\*  
2. silenus 494.00  
3. Sigmagirl 464.00  
4. 42fish 452.00  
5. Cardinal 450.00  
5. wheresgeorge04 450.00  
7. Beadalin 428.00  
8. 5 time champ 426.00  
9. 3acresandatruck 422.00  
10. gonzomax 420.00  
11. Spoons 416.00  
12. El\_Kabong 414.00  
12. Little Nemo 414.00  
14. An Arky 394.00  
15. Scarlett67 388.00  
15. I’m Not Dennis Bergkamp 388.00  
15. AppallingGael 388.00  
18. dwc1970 386.00  
19. Fretful Porpentine 382.00  
20. Sternvogel 380.00  
21. ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness 378.00  
22. astorian 376.00  
23. Sparky812 374.00  
24. Manduck 364.00  
25. NDP 362.00  
26. Key Lime Guy 360.00  
27. pravnik 358.00  
27. MsWhatsit 358.00  
27. Biffy the Elephant Shrew 358.00  
30. Dolores Reborn 356.00  
31. notfrommensa 342.00  
32. Charlie Tan 338.00  
33. Freudian Slit 336.00  
34. Aspidistra 334.00  
35. Sublight 330.00  
36. WVmom 318.00  
37. Fiddle Peghead 314.00  
38. bluecanary 300.00  
39. Elendil’s Heir 292.00  
39. anyrose 292.00  
41. Springtime for Spacers 280.00  
42. Jack Batty 270.00  
43. Justin Credible 268.00  
44. The Superhero 262.00  
45. ShibbOleth 260.00  
46. Thudlow Boink 254.00  
46. jali 254.00  
48. zamboniracer 236.00  
49. willthekittensurvive? 224.00  
50. RealityChuck 212.00

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
>
> What happened to the Moody Blues? Three of us chose them.

Uh-oh.

Hang on.

I screwed up the C&P on #10. The standings are unaffected.

1. Name a rock performer that has NOT been inducted into the hall of fame.
2. KISS 14
3. Alice Cooper 5
4. The Moody Blues 3
5. Britney Spears 2
6. Jimmy Buffett 2
7. Kurt Cobain 2
8. Rush 2
9. Axl Rose 1
10. Cat Stevens 1
11. Chicago 1
12. Chubby Checker 1
13. George Thorogood 1
14. Iggy Pop 1
15. Iron Butterfly 1
16. Joe Jackson 1
17. Jon Bon Jovi 1
18. Justin Timberlake 1
19. Morrissey 1
20. nick cave 1
21. Oasis 1
22. pass 1
23. Ringo Starr 1
24. Sex Pistols 1
25. The Bonzo Dog Band 1
26. The Clash 1
27. The Offspring 1
28. The Stooges 1

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Behind the scenes:

The spreadsheet gives me an unsorted list of answers and their number of matches.

I C&P that list into another area, separate each numbered section, move all the #10s to the bottom of the list, and sort each numbered section into “most matches on top.” Then I add the question to the top of each section.

I screw it up. Often. 🙂

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> [@Rebo](#):
>
> 1. Name a rock performer that has NOT been inducted into the hall of fame.
> 2. KISS 14
> 3. Alice Cooper 5
> 4. The Moody Blues 3
> 5. Britney Spears 2
> 6. Jimmy Buffett 2
> 7. Kurt Cobain 2
> 8. Rush 2
> 9. Axl Rose 1
> 10. Cat Stevens 1
> 11. Chicago 1
> 12. Chubby Checker 1
> 13. George Thorogood 1
> 14. Iggy Pop 1
> 15. Iron Butterfly 1
> 16. Joe Jackson 1
> 17. Jon Bon Jovi 1
> 18. Justin Timberlake 1
> 19. Morrissey 1
> 20. nick cave 1
> 21. Oasis 1
> 22. pass 1
> 23. Ringo Starr 1
> 24. Sex Pistols 1
> 25. The Bonzo Dog Band 1
> 26. The Clash 1
> 27. The Offspring 1
> 28. The Stooges 1

What’s the record for most unmatched answers on a Feud question? Also I want to know if people really think that KISS should be in a HoF based on musical merit or just because of their impact on the business? Because I loved them as a tween/young teen and listening to their old stuff now they just SUCK.

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Funny that so many songs were used as answers for _both_ of the first two questions - bad and good. 😃

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