# The Daily Feud: Rock, Roll, and the Road by SSG Schwartz \[Game Over\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 24, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251 "2009-02-24T19:17:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/81 "2009-02-25T21:24:03Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> What’s the record for most unmatched answers on a Feud question? Also I want to know if people really think that KISS should be in a HoF based on musical merit or just because of their impact on the business? Because I loved them as a tween/young teen and listening to their old stuff now they just SUCK.

Well, to be fair, the question wasn’t “Who wasn’t inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Who Should Have Been?” but just “Name a group/artist that hasn’t been inducted.”

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/82 "2009-02-25T21:31:43Z")

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Beaten by **Swampy** yet again. ☹

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**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/83 "2009-02-26T01:57:45Z")

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Hey, thanks Dolores for all that you do, but you missed my answer for a performer who hasn’t been inducted in the Rock Hall of Fame, the great, the incomparable, the awesome Ringo Starr. Where is the love for this amazing man?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/84 "2009-02-26T02:26:35Z")

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Thanks, **Dolores** and **SSG Schwartz**. That was fun!

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/85 "2009-02-26T03:44:30Z")

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> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#):
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> Hey, thanks Dolores for all that you do, but you missed my answer for a performer who hasn’t been inducted in the Rock Hall of Fame, the great, the incomparable, the awesome Ringo Starr. Where is the love for this amazing man?

What are you talking about? Your Ringo Starr answer is listed but it shouldn’t be since it is technically incorrect. Starr was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1988 as a member of the Beatles. The other three were all inducted a second time for their successful solo careers.  
Unfortunately, Ringo’s solo career has been less than stellar (pun intended!) but he has been on the ballot for induction for the last three years.

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/86 "2009-02-26T03:55:12Z")

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FTR The Clash (2003) and the Sex Pistols (2006) are already in!

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**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/87 "2009-02-26T05:53:50Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> What’s the record for most unmatched answers on a Feud question? Also I want to know if people really think that KISS should be in a HoF based on musical merit or just because of their impact on the business? Because I loved them as a tween/young teen and listening to their old stuff now they just SUCK.

I am in a running feud with a HS student of mine about KISS.

I and the rest of the class (some definite wannabe musicians in attendance) maintain that KISS is the Coke of rock bands. He is liable to statements like, “KISS is the greatest band of all time.”

He is also liable to this statement about a few other bands.  
KISS SUCKS. THEY SUCK AS MUSICIANS AND AS PERFORMERS. THE KISS ARMY IS DEAD!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/88 "2009-02-26T06:03:55Z")

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The eight-year-old I babysat c. 1978 was a huge KISS fan. Nuff said.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/89 "2009-02-26T06:04:02Z")

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10th. Rarefied air. Yet not as satisfying because Rock and Roll has not penetrated Iceland yet. Perhaps in a few years. They are still producing lava lamps.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/90 "2009-02-26T06:32:43Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Well, to be fair, the question wasn’t “Who wasn’t inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Who Should Have Been?” but just “Name a group/artist that hasn’t been inducted.”

I understand that, just wondering how so many people made that same pick. There are literally thousands and thousands of musicians that have never (and will never) be selected for that. Why did so many people pick KISS?

Not saying it’s not a valid answer, it certainly is. Just curious. Maybe there’s some percent of the population that is offended that KISS have never been selected?

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**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/91 "2009-02-26T07:00:42Z")

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> [@Sparky812](#):
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> What are you talking about? Your Ringo Starr answer is listed but it shouldn’t be since it is technically incorrect. Starr was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1988 as a member of the Beatles. The other three were all inducted a second time for their successful solo careers.  
> Unfortunately, Ringo’s solo career has been less than stellar (pun intended!) but he has been on the ballot for induction for the last three years.

Richard Starkey should have been inducted based on Photograph alone.

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**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/92 "2009-02-26T11:27:14Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Beaten by **Swampy** yet again. ☹

Some say they enjoy being beaten by me. 😃

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/93 "2009-02-26T12:21:53Z")

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You little devil, you! 😉

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/94 "2009-02-26T14:29:11Z")

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> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#):
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> Richard Starkey should have been inducted based on Photograph alone.

And “It Don’t Come Easy” and “You’re Sixteen” are just the icing on the cake.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/95 "2009-02-26T15:14:55Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> And “It Don’t Come Easy” and “You’re Sixteen” are just the icing on the cake.

What, no love for “Octopus’s Garden”?

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**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/96 "2009-02-26T15:22:19Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> I understand that, just wondering how so many people made that same pick. There are literally thousands and thousands of musicians that have never (and will never) be selected for that. Why did so many people pick KISS?

Well, I answered KISS for several reasons, and none of them because I think they should be inducted.

1. They’re memorable

2. Gene Simmons refuses to just shut the fuck up, ever, and thus shows up on reality TV and the like all the damn time, making him also memorable

3. They were most active during the timeframe that a lot of the other bands I thought of for this feud were active

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/97 "2009-02-26T15:53:11Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> What, no love for “Octopus’s Garden”?

Yabbut that was a Beatles song.

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/98 "2009-02-26T19:05:32Z")

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> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#):
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> Richard Starkey should have been inducted based on Photograph alone.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> And “It Don’t Come Easy” and “You’re Sixteen” are just the icing on the cake.

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Look, FTR I agree he should be inducted by himself, but you're joking right?

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“Photograph” was co-written and recorded with George Harrison as was “It Don’t Come Easy”.  
“You’re Sixteen” is a cover version written by the Sherman brothers.  
Even if he had written these songs alone and they were at #1 for months, commercial success is not the focus of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

> [@](#):
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> Currently, groups or individuals are qualified for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Nominees should have demonstrable influence and significance within the history of rock and roll.

- Wikipedia

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/99 "2009-02-26T20:14:24Z")

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True. I was being somewhat facetious.

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-daily-feud-rock-roll-and-the-road-by-ssg-schwartz-game-over/487251/100 "2009-02-27T14:25:48Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> True. I was being somewhat facetious.

I know, it was **Peghead** , I was trying to figure out.🙂

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