# The day after Christmas and all I have are 4 buns and no ham. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 26, 2008, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737 "2008-12-26T16:01:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737/61 "2008-12-27T03:17:46Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > You’re allowed to say whatever you want to to the OP in the Pit. It’s just that everybody else is allowed to tell you you’re an asshole. It’s the risk you take. He specifically told me I should not have posted what I did in the Pit, that it is against the rules to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737/62 "2008-12-27T03:31:20Z")
You know, when everybody tells you you’re an asshole, you should stop being an asshole, not complain about the way they told you what an asshole you are. Just sayin’. I mean, is he also touching you? Has he gone over the line you drew on the floor? Whose side of the bedroom is the door on? ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737/63 "2008-12-27T03:31:53Z")
> [@Ensign\_Edison](#): > > He specifically told me … that it is against the rules to do so. Nobody said any such thing, you moron. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737/64 "2008-12-27T03:43:40Z")
> [@Ensign\_Edison](#): > > He specifically told me I should not have posted what I did in the Pit, that it is against the rules to do so. I want a cite that I said any such thing. I said it was rude. I said it wasn’t polite. I said it was threadshitting, which isn’t against the rules _per se_. I never said you were violating any rules. I do not junior mod. No, seriously. I want a quoted cite from any post I’ve made in response to you. ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737/65 "2008-12-27T04:05:32Z")
I was under the impression that it is against the rules to threadshit . If I’m mistaken, I aplologize for inaccurately summarizing your position. ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737/66 "2008-12-27T04:06:36Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > You know, when everybody tells you you’re an asshole, you should stop being an asshole, not complain about the way they told you what an asshole you are. Just sayin’. I mean, is he also touching you? Has he gone over the line you drew on the floor? Whose side of the bedroom is the door on? What are you, really bored? ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737/67 "2008-12-27T04:10:57Z")
**Ensign** , you were unnecessarily being obtuse. There’s no other way to put it. I was kinda harsh on the OP too, until I learned the circumstances surrounding the situation. Once you read them, you should have been more sympathetic, or, expected the barrage of criticism coming your way otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737/68 "2008-12-27T04:15:42Z")
> [@Ensign\_Edison](#): > > What are you, really bored? Are you serious? Mr. Pot, may I introduce Mr. Kettle. Pleased to meet you indeed. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737/69 "2008-12-27T04:45:52Z")
> [@Ensign\_Edison](#): > > You know where you can fuck off back to. This is still the Pit, despite the pretty pink rumblings of an imminent teaparty from above. If he only wants hugs and kisses, he needs to get somebody to read the board rules and titles to him.ne. Us doormats and dumbasses who believe in civilized society need more of your advice, O Douche King. ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737/70 "2008-12-27T05:30:23Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > **Ensign** , you were unnecessarily being obtuse. There’s no other way to put it. I was kinda harsh on the OP too, until I learned the circumstances surrounding the situation. Once you read them, you should have been more sympathetic, or, expected the barrage of criticism coming your way otherwise. I haven’t said one word to complain about anybody’s objections but jayjay’s accusation about threadshitting, and everybody jumping on me has been ten times as harsh as I was. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737/71 "2008-12-27T05:32:41Z")
> [@Ensign\_Edison](#): > > I was under the impression that it is against the rules to threadshit . Not to my knowledge. Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Gleena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b3f665/32.png) [@Gleena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gleena)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737/72 "2008-12-27T08:28:35Z")
> [@Ensign\_Edison](#): > > You know where you can fuck off back to. This is still the Pit, despite the pretty pink rumblings of an imminent teaparty from above. If he only wants hugs and kisses, he needs to get somebody to read the board rules and titles to him. It wasn’t some random attack, it was a specific response to the contents of the original post. He put forth his position, and my response to it is that it is a bunch of spoiled whining from someone with no sense of how lucky he is. Not all suffering is relative, but bitching about how you only got HALF A POUND OF HAM to eat on Christmas is ridiculous. > > And if I pitting him for this Pit I’d have a bunch of people quite rightly asking why I couldn’t just do it in this one. Somebody needs a whaaambulance, stat. Sorry you have no fucking life. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737/73 "2008-12-27T08:39:22Z")
> [@Ensign\_Edison](#): > > Anybody who is complaining about plenty of food, money and family around them not being sufficient, without even a shred of suggestion that they appreciate what they have, has a fucked-up, spoiled perspective in my opinion, and that would be true even if everybody had all that stuff. Rik: Both my parents are dead! Neil: You think that’s bad. Rik: Well, yes I do actually – what’s it to you, pissface? * * * In all seriousness, I didn’t see evidence of “plenty of food” in the OP: I saw evidence of **less** food than HD had been counting on, because of guests’ thoughtlessness. Same with “plenty of money”: he’d been given gift money, but he’s not free to spend it as he sees fit. Family? Well, if “family” means “clueless jerks who bring their mutt, let him roam free, and shrug when he wrecks the holiday ham”, I can’t blame the OP for being fed up. ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737/74 "2008-12-27T08:44:02Z")
Rilchaim, if you don’t think half a pound of ham and more than a hundred bucks is plenty, or that every time we get less excess than we’d hoped for we should have tantrums, then I suppose we simply disagree on definitions. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737/75 "2008-12-27T10:21:10Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > Wait. . . stop the presses. . . you’re female?!! :dubious: Male (last time I checked). I guess it wasn’t you then. I just remember that someone from my “likes” list was surprised at some point that I was male. Start the presses again. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737/76 "2008-12-27T10:46:38Z")
> [@Ensign\_Edison](#): > > Rilchaim, if you don’t think half a pound of ham and more than a hundred bucks is plenty, or that every time we get less excess than we’d hoped for we should have tantrums, then I suppose we simply disagree on definitions. Clearly, we disagree on the definition of “tantrum.” And the rest of the ham should have stayed available for leftovers. Instead, it was rendered inedible because of the clueless jerks mentioned above. Is it so wrong to be angry (not tantrum; starting a Pit thread is not a tantrum) when someone **else** wrecks **your** stuff out of lack of consideration? If he’d been in some way complicit in the demise of the ham, I might see your point. But he wasn’t, and he’s upset. And I’m not going to call shame on him. ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737/77 "2008-12-27T12:26:20Z")
> [@Ensign\_Edison](#): > > Rilchaim, if you don’t think half a pound of ham and more than a hundred bucks is plenty, or that every time we get less excess than we’d hoped for we should have tantrums, then I suppose we simply disagree on definitions. I didn’t have a tantrum you fuck headed piece of shit. I’m pissed at losing all that expensive ham that I won’t get to eat. That I can’t go out and buy to eat most of the time. I’m on an extremely tight budget, and ham is a treat. So fuck off. Get this $100 wasn’t a complaint dick face. Being told by somebody that didn’t give it that I shouldn’t buy something when asked if I found a bargain was the point. I got asked if I found a bargain and I got lectured on something I didn’t even fucking buy. Guess what fuck head? I didn’t buy a monitor, because like usual I kept the money for pants and shoes like I always do. Fuck off. If you have more than the clothes on your back don’t even come around me because your preaching to the choir reverend fuck head. It’s also obvious you don’t know what a tantrum is and being pissed is way different. Here’s a hint being applied with a 2 by 4 for your understanding. You don’t have to shit on people just because it’s permitted. It’s permitted doesn’t excuse boorishness and ill manners just for the purpose of thread shitting. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737/78 "2008-12-27T12:57:19Z")
> [@Ensign\_Edison](#): > > Rilchaim, if you don’t think half a pound of ham and more than a hundred bucks is plenty, or that every time we get less excess than we’d hoped for we should have tantrums, then I suppose we simply disagree on definitions. Sure. But, still, the rest of us all agree you’re a douche. ---
**Author:** ![Wiggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/0ea827/32.png) [@Wiggie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wiggie)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737/79 "2008-12-27T15:12:19Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Yes, but if she’s living with mom, that’s probably not her decision to make. It’s entirely possible that mom is the one saying it’s okay to eat therefore we’re not throwing it out. But then, if she’s living with mom, and doesn’t have the authority to throw the ham out, then it’s unlikley SHE even bought the ham and therefore wouldn’t likely have “planned to eat on it all week” and really doesn’t even have a beef about the ham. Er, you know what I mean. His posts sound suspiciously like he’s tipsy. And he hates the dog and is embellishing the story to make the dog out to be even worse than it was. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737/80 "2008-12-27T15:16:28Z")
> [@Wiggie](#): > > But then, if she’s living with mom, and doesn’t have the authority to throw the ham out, then it’s unlikley SHE even bought the ham and therefore wouldn’t likely have “planned to eat on it all week” and really doesn’t even have a beef about the ham. Er, you know what I mean. > > Her posts sound suspiciously like she’s tipsy. And she hates the dog and is embellishing the story to make the dog out to be even worse than it was. Here’s the thing, though…Mom is expecting him to eat that ham. She’s not going to throw it out and make something else. That ham was supposed to be lunches and dinners for the next week. And as far as Mom is concerned, it still is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-christmas-and-all-i-have-are-4-buns-and-no-ham/478737.md?page=5)