# The Day After Tomorrow - Thank you conservative press **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 27, 2004, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-tomorrow-thank-you-conservative-press/247375 "2004-05-27T17:25:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-tomorrow-thank-you-conservative-press/247375/41 "2004-05-28T05:04:25Z")
Gee maybe this will prompt Charlie Daniels to write a _second_ editorial about the liberal Hollywood crowd trying to force its agenda on the American people. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-tomorrow-thank-you-conservative-press/247375/42 "2004-05-28T05:13:16Z")
> [@Kel Varnsen - Latex Division](#): > > Thank God for the conservative press or I would have thought the movie was a documentary. Did they “expose” _Jurassic Park_ when it came out? Good Lord, I hope they didn’t see _10.5_. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-tomorrow-thank-you-conservative-press/247375/43 "2004-05-28T06:10:13Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > Btw, Art Bell himself says the human-caused component of what he & Streiber predict in THE COMING GLOBAL SUPERSTORM (the inspiration of TDAT) is negligible (sp?) & that it’s more a matter of natural cycles, so the political points both sides are firing (and that are made in the film) are misplaced. Roland Emmerich, in the Times, said he picked up the book as a hoot, and decided he could make a good disaster movie out of it. The director of _Independence Day_ actually improved the science in it. I think conservatives are just upset because liberals are stooping to their level now, and their lock on the Neandertal block is at risk (and apologies in advance for insulting Neandertals.) If Emmerich claimed it was scientifically accurate, they might have a point - but it is kind of hard to make an exciting movie about something that would really take decades at least. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-tomorrow-thank-you-conservative-press/247375/44 "2004-05-28T10:26:29Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > Well they should have been! _Jurassic Park_ supported that evil humanist notion that the Earth is more that 6000 years old., and dinosaur fossils aren’t just a test God planted in the ground to test us. Sorry, I missed the memo declaring that evolution is a liberal political ideology. ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-tomorrow-thank-you-conservative-press/247375/45 "2004-05-28T13:37:34Z")
I think it’s rather hysterical. I mean, yes, I’m a liberal, but I was still a little flummoxed when I got [MoveOn.org](http://MoveOn.org)’s e-mail that stated this was “the movie the Bush Administration doesn’t want you to see.” :rolleyes: Reading the e-mail, I actually asked the screen, “Are you insane?!” It’s ludicrous that anyone would even remotely think that such things could happen, like, tomorrow. It’s a popcorn flick, people! Snicks. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-tomorrow-thank-you-conservative-press/247375/46 "2004-05-28T14:12:55Z")
Actually, the more I think about it, the more this makes sense. True, \*The Day After Tomorrow \* is pure fiction, a popcorn movie, no way in hell it’ll happen, right? At least, not at the speed at which it happens in the movie. Nevertheless, it happens in the movie. And people will see the movie. Certainly, some morons will believe that it is possible. I mean, think about some of the things people believe right NOW. Tinfoil hats, anyone? Now… speaking of things people believe: \*Some people believe there were and are WMDs in Iraq. I did, at one point. \*Some people believe that President Bush would not lie to the American people or to Congress in order to ramrod his agenda into existence. \*Some people believe that our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan are “defending America” instead of “invading other countries.” \*Some people believe that speaking out against the Bush Administration is hurting our troops in some manner, and should not be allowed. \*Some people believe that the U.S. Government should be allowed to temporarily take possession of any public or private property where the President might be, so he doesn’t have to look at protesters. \*Some people believe that our presence in Iraq has a damn thing to do with the freedom and well-being of the Iraqi people. \*Some people believe that George W. Bush won the last election. \*Some people believe that George W. Bush gives a hoot in hell about what’s best for the American people and for our country, and is qualified to do anything about it. I personally believe that President Bush is an opportunist, merrily willing to rape the entire country – and, to some extent, the world – for fun, profit, and personal aggrandizement, and that his spinmeisters are relying on half-truths, outright lies, material taken out of context, massive obfuscation, denials of uncomfortable truths, and a generous helping of generic bullstuff to allow the Bush administration to keep getting away with it, and to get him reelected so he can keep it up for another four years. Therefore, it is necessary to appeal to the credulous in order to Keep The Big Wheels Turning, yes? Plainly, they’d resent anyone trying the same thing on THEM, even if it’s just a big-budget popcorn movie about an impossibility… …that happens to diametrically oppose one of the President’s Official Beliefs. Somethin’ to think about, yes? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Lance_Murdoch)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-tomorrow-thank-you-conservative-press/247375/47 "2004-05-28T15:57:28Z")
It this is “the movie the Bush administration doesn’t want you to see” then I’m in agreement with Bush. For the first time. Ever. Man, does this movie look like crap. It turns a serious issue into a joke. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-tomorrow-thank-you-conservative-press/247375/48 "2004-05-28T16:58:09Z")
> [@Master Wang-Ka](#): > > Certainly, some morons will believe that it is possible. I mean, think about some of the things people believe right NOW. Tinfoil hats, anyone? Damn, you’re right. Look at things some people seem to believe: \*That President Bush knew about 9-11 beforehand and allowed it to happen. \*That the war in Iraq is for oil, despite the fact that gas prices are way up and despite the fact that simply lifting the sanctions and making a deal with Saddam would have assured more oil production reaching the West. \*That somehow it was wrong to invade Afghanistan, despite the fact that the US gave them every chance to hand over the Al Quaeda elements in their country and avoid a war. \*That there were no WMDs in Iraq, despite the fact that we’ve discovered labs for making the stuff and at least one each shell of sarin and mustard gas, both of which had to have been produced since the Gulf War, and both of which had to have been part of a much larger production, since things like those are not hand-made one at a time. \*That there was no terror connections in Iraq, despite the fact that Saddam has long been known as a financer of Hamas and Islamic Jihad, and despite the fact that perhaps the largest terrorist training camp in the world was in Iraq. \*That we are somehow “losing” in Iraq, despite the fact that the opposition is basically suing for peace on all fronts. \*That President Bush is “thumbing his nose” at the rest of the world by not living up to the Kyoto Protocols, despite the fact that the Senate refused to ratify the Kyoto Accords by a vote of something like 99-1. > [@](#): > > Somethin’ to think about, yes? Ain’t it though? Oh well, I guess Barnum was right…there’s a sucker born every minute. And most of them work for [moveon.org](http://moveon.org). ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-tomorrow-thank-you-conservative-press/247375/49 "2004-05-28T17:15:18Z")
Jesus H. Christo with a chainsaw. Is the Bush administration so firmly in the pockets of the logging industry that a fictional _movie_ has them frothing at the mouth? We sure wouldn’t want anything to get in the way of the gutting of environmental legislation, now would we? Following on the heels of trying to relax the rules for logging and roads in the Tongass National Forest, the pubbies are now trying to do the same for the Chugach National Forest. These bastards have got to go. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-tomorrow-thank-you-conservative-press/247375/50 "2004-05-28T17:24:55Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Jesus H. Christo with a chainsaw. Is the Bush administration so firmly in the pockets of the logging industry that a fictional _movie_ has them frothing at the mouth? We sure wouldn’t want anything to get in the way of the gutting of environmental legislation, now would we? See, here is a perfect example of what we were saying about people believing nonsense. No one in the Bush administration has said shit about the movie. [Moveon.org](http://Moveon.org) has said that the Bush administration doesn’t want you to see the movie, and people like this fellow swallow that line like a starving fish. Pitiful. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-tomorrow-thank-you-conservative-press/247375/51 "2004-05-28T18:00:22Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > See, here is a perfect example of what we were saying about people believing nonsense. No one in the Bush administration has said shit about the movie. > [Moveon.org](http://Moveon.org) has said that the Bush administration doesn’t want you to see the movie, and people like this fellow swallow that line like a starving fish. Pitiful. First off, piss off. Secondly, I am responding to the OP. Thirdly, piss off. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-tomorrow-thank-you-conservative-press/247375/52 "2004-05-28T18:03:51Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > First off, piss off. Secondly, I am responding to the OP. Thirdly, piss off. Oh how can one argue with such reasoned discourse… :rolleyes: Thanks for making my point for me, however. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-tomorrow-thank-you-conservative-press/247375/53 "2004-05-28T18:24:35Z")
> [@Snickers](#): > > I think it’s rather hysterical. I mean, yes, I’m a liberal, but I was still a little flummoxed when I got [MoveOn.org](http://MoveOn.org)’s e-mail that stated this was “the movie the Bush Administration doesn’t want you to see.” :rolleyes: You sure they weren’t talking about **Fahrenheit 911** instead? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-tomorrow-thank-you-conservative-press/247375/54 "2004-05-28T18:28:48Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > You sure they weren’t talking about **Fahrenheit 911** instead? 😉 It’s an easy mistake…they’re both fantasy fiction after all. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-tomorrow-thank-you-conservative-press/247375/55 "2004-05-28T18:33:30Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > Oh how can one argue with such reasoned discourse… :rolleyes: > Thanks for making my point for me, however. First you insult my intelligence, then ascribe beliefs to me that I don’t hold and have not stated, then further insult me as being gullible, then become indignant when I respond in kind? Why don’t you crawl back under the neo-con rock you slithered out from under and give us a break. > [@](#): > > \*That there were no WMDs in Iraq, despite the fact that we’ve discovered labs for making the stuff and at least one each shell of sarin and mustard gas, both of which had to have been produced since the Gulf War, and both of which had to have been part of a much larger production, since things like those are not hand-made one at a time. This is just priceless Limbaugh crap, as is the rest of your ramblings. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-tomorrow-thank-you-conservative-press/247375/56 "2004-05-28T20:01:17Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > First you insult my intelligence No, just your credulity. > [@](#): > > , then ascribe beliefs to me that I don’t hold and have not stated No, I only ascribed beliefs to you that you stated directly in your post. > [@](#): > > , then further insult me as being gullible Only because you espoused belief in something demonstrably false. That’s pretty much the definition of gullible. > [@](#): > > , then become indignant when I respond in kind? Sorry bub, you haven’t seen me indignant. Actually, there are very few people who’ve known me since after college who’ve seen me indignant. > [@](#): > > Why don’t you crawl back under the neo-con rock you slithered out from under and give us a break. First of all, I am not “neo” anything. Second, your facile attempts at flaming are incredibly disappointing. And third, I have no interest in giving you a break. > [@](#): > > This is just priceless Limbaugh crap, as is the rest of your ramblings. No, it’s priceless fact, as are the rest of my posts in this thread. Unlike you, I hold facts to be more important than political ideology. ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-tomorrow-thank-you-conservative-press/247375/57 "2004-05-28T22:02:51Z")
\> SPLASHHH! \< ::: throws a bucket of cold, soapy water over the two disputants ::: Hey! Settle down, you two! **Chef Guy** , you started the name-calling, and **RikWriter** , you gleefully hopped into the fray, so you both get splooshed. If you want to debate politics, go to Great Debates, and you argue over whether Republicans or Democrats are the stupidest people one earth. If you want to call each other names, go the BBQ Pit and you can call each other names. None of that behavior is appropriate to this forum. Shape up, NOW. This is an Official Warning of inappropriate behavior. Now, go dry off and calm down. You’ve both been around here long enough to know better. Grow up. ---
**Author:** ![CalH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ab097/32.png) [@CalH](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalH)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-tomorrow-thank-you-conservative-press/247375/58 "2004-05-28T22:57:17Z")
> [@](#): > > **Dewey Cheatem Undhow** :It’s Dolph Lundgren. Uh, Dewey… buddy… you might wanna take a closer look at the link you’ve supplied. Specifically, click on the “show more” section. Hans. Say it with me. Hans. > [@](#): > > **WILLASS** :Actually it’s Dolph Lundgren, his brother Hans went into the music biz. I don’t know how many “real” brothers you think he [has](http://www.allmovieportal.com/c/dolphlundgren.html). I only got one called Johan. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-day-after-tomorrow-thank-you-conservative-press/247375.md?page=2)