# The dead contacting the living **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 7, 2009, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-contacting-the-living/502274 "2009-07-07T23:50:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-contacting-the-living/502274/381 "2009-07-30T15:38:18Z")
> [@lekatt](#): > > You seem to be the only person that doesn’t understand what is going on here. Oh, we all understand what is going on here, make no mistake. You have no more special gift of insight than the rest of us, so just stop with that. If you wanted to fight ignorance, you wouldn’t post links to your own website. That is worse than no link at all, because it is a pretense that your claims are something other than baseless witnessing, which require no cites. You should just preface every post you make on this topic with a notice that you are witnessing about your spiritual beliefs, and not making claims with any factual substance. . ---
**Author:** ![lekatt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lekatt/32/7269_2.png) [@lekatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lekatt)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-contacting-the-living/502274/382 "2009-07-30T16:27:00Z")
The point has been made, time to start another thread. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-contacting-the-living/502274/383 "2009-07-30T16:50:33Z")
> [@lekatt](#): > > The point has been made, time to start another thread. No it hasn’t. You’re simply asserting childish fantasies as fact. You have no evidence and less than zero credibility. Just because you want something to be true doesn’t mean it is. I am a _[space vampire](http://www.thewellers.com/twiki/vorvon3.jpg)_. See, I can randomly assert whacked-out silliness too. ---
**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-contacting-the-living/502274/384 "2009-07-30T17:33:46Z")
> [@lekatt](#): > > The point has been made, time to start another thread. Then where is it? If you want a new thread then YOU start it. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-contacting-the-living/502274/385 "2009-07-30T18:41:14Z")
> [@lekatt](#): > > I am the primary source of some of them. Those that were emailed to me made my site the primary source. No, a primary source is the source that did the work. Or research. Or testing. Not just some guy with an e-mail account. ---
**Author:** ![Anise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anise/32/21721_2.png) [@Anise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anise)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-contacting-the-living/502274/386 "2009-07-30T21:34:37Z")
Well-- thanks for the compliment, lekatt. 🙂 I don’t know if I’m a grand person or not, but basically, I think the points have been made. People are kind of just going over and over the same things now,and it’s probably time to just move on. ---
**Author:** ![lekatt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lekatt/32/7269_2.png) [@lekatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lekatt)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-contacting-the-living/502274/387 "2009-07-30T23:46:35Z")
> [@Anise](#): > > Well-- thanks for the compliment, lekatt. 🙂 > I don’t know if I’m a grand person or not, but basically, I think the points have been made. People are kind of just going over and over the same things now,and it’s probably time to just move on. It is difficult to find honesty on this board, you have that honesty for which I am grateful. Yes, the point has been made and it is time to move on. Love ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-contacting-the-living/502274/388 "2009-07-31T00:18:00Z")
> [@lekatt](#): > > It is difficult to find honesty on this board, you have that honesty for which I am grateful. Yes, the point has been made and it is time to move on. > > Love I’d say the only point made in this thread is that you are unwilling to challenge your beliefs and would rather champion fantasy as fact than live in the real world. I’d agree that that point has been made. ---
**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-contacting-the-living/502274/389 "2009-07-31T00:54:28Z")
Seconded! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-contacting-the-living/502274.md?page=19)