# The Dead Don't Die **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 2, 2019, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951 "2019-04-02T23:18:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951/1 "2019-04-02T23:18:44Z")
This year’s zombie movie. Youtube trailer [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs5ZOcU6Bnw). I’m not normally a fan of horror movies but this looks to be a scream! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951/2 "2019-04-02T23:21:51Z")
I usually dont trust trailers anymore. But my buddy made me watch it the other day. And I still dont trust them. But BUT, I told my buddy all he had to say to make me want to see it is “Bill Murray is in a zombie movie” ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951/3 "2019-04-03T00:14:28Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > I usually dont trust trailers anymore. But my buddy made me watch it the other day. And I still dont trust them. But BUT, I told my buddy all he had to say to make me want to see it is “Bill Murray is in a zombie movie” It’s his second one. He’s in Zombieland as well and I think they are making a sequel that will…somehow feature him again. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951/4 "2019-04-03T00:27:47Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > It’s his second one. He’s in Zombieland as well and I think they are making a sequel that will…somehow feature him again. Which is exactly why I watched that movie as well. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951/5 "2019-04-03T01:04:33Z")
It’s a Jarmusch move, so I’d probably see it anyway, but Tilda Swinton’s work as a make-up artist sells me on it completely. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951/6 "2019-04-03T14:02:06Z")
Yeah, count me in on a Jim Jarmucsh zombie movie. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951/7 "2019-04-03T15:23:09Z")
Yeah, absolutely. Jarmusch is in the running as greatest director of the last 25 years in my book. His last genre movie, ‘Only Lovers Left Alive’, may be the most thoughtful vampire movie there’s ever been. That he’s giving a go to a zombie comedy? With that cast? It’s going to be brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951/8 "2019-04-04T05:34:18Z")
When I read the words ‘Jim Jarmush zombie movie featuring Bill Murray, Tilda Swinton, Iggy Pop, Tom Waits, RZA…’, it instantly became my favorite film. Also, in my head, it’ll probably forever be called ‘Coffee and Cigarettes and Zombies’. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951/9 "2019-04-04T08:34:48Z")
It just needs a cameo by Arnie. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951/10 "2019-04-04T14:27:30Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > It’s his second one. He’s in Zombieland as well and I think they are making a sequel that will…somehow feature him again. **Zombieland 2: Double Tap** comes out this October, and the zombie of Murray will apparently cameo. Dan Akroyd is listed in the cast as well… ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951/11 "2019-07-08T15:14:05Z")
I saw this last night, and I was mixed, overall on the positive side. The fourth-wall breaking in a few spots took me out of it and would have been better left out. But mostly it was hilarious, and Bill Murray, Adam Driver, and Chloe Sevigne were great together. Tilda Swinton continues to be the go-to actor for weird characters, and I enjoyed all the brief appearances by famous people as zombies or zombie chow. Anyone else see it? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951/12 "2019-07-08T20:58:09Z")
The fourth-wall breaking pretty much ruined it for me. I was just fine with the small town full of quirky characters facing the zombocalypse, but Driver and Murray talking about “the script” made me lose patience, had me comparing this film unfavourably to _Drowning Mona_. Also, what was the point of the subplot about the three kids? They just wandered out of the movie at some point, never to return. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951/13 "2019-07-08T22:08:40Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Yeah, absolutely. > > Jarmusch is in the running as greatest director of the last 25 years in my book. His last genre movie, ‘Only Lovers Left Alive’, may be the most thoughtful vampire movie there’s ever been. > > That he’s giving a go to a zombie comedy? With that cast? It’s going to be brilliant. I absolutely loved _Only Lovers Left Alive_. Does this movie have anywhere near the same vibe? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951/14 "2019-07-08T22:39:14Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Yeah, absolutely. > > Jarmusch is in the running as greatest director of the last 25 years in my book. His last genre movie, ‘Only Lovers Left Alive’, may be the most thoughtful vampire movie there’s ever been. > > That he’s giving a go to a zombie comedy? With that cast? It’s going to be brilliant. I saw Only Lovers Left Alive and thought it was OK. I definitely appreciated seeing Tilda Swinton reprise that character on What We Do In Shadows. Did you see her play Eve on WWDIS? She, Paul Reubens(from Buffy), Wesley Snipes(as Blade), and more reprised their vampire roles in it. ---
**Author:** ![JohnM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@JohnM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnM)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951/15 "2019-07-08T22:56:43Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Also, what was the point of the subplot about the three kids? They just wandered out of the movie at some point, never to return. Not quite. The zombified motel manager killed them in their room and we see the bodies later when the sheriff and deputies stop at the motel. My wife and I both really enjoyed it. Hell, it was worth the price of admission to have confirmation that Tilda Swinton really is an alien. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951/16 "2019-07-08T23:30:27Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > It’s a Jarmusch move, so I’d probably see it anyway, but Tilda Swinton’s work as a make-up artist sells me on it completely. Agreed; she was the highlight of the film. > [@epbrown01](#): > > **Zombieland 2: Double Tap** comes out this October, and the zombie of Murray will apparently cameo. Dan Akroyd is listed in the cast as well… 🆒 > [@carrps](#): > > I absolutely loved _Only Lovers Left Alive_. Does this movie have anywhere near the same vibe? Not really and it’s not as good. > [@JohnM](#): > > Not quite. The zombified motel manager killed them in their room and we see the bodies later when the sheriff and deputies stop at the motel… Did anyone else think it odd that they kept showing Selena Gomez’s character’s severed head without showing it reanimating. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951/17 "2019-07-08T23:43:44Z")
> [@JohnM](#): > > Not quite. The zombified motel manager killed them in their room and we see the bodies later when the sheriff and deputies stop at the motel. > > My wife and I both really enjoyed it. Hell, it was worth the price of admission to have confirmation that Tilda Swinton really is an alien. It was the hipsters that were eaten. **Bryan Ekers** is talking about the kids who were in juvenile detention, and he’s right, they seemed to serve no purpose. No jokes, no contribution to the plot, then they just disappeared. > [@alphaboi867](#): > > Did anyone else think it odd that they kept showing Selena Gomez’s character’s severed head without showing it reanimating. No, they’d “killed the head” and severed the spinal cord, so she was dead-dead. I quite liked the extended scene where he’s just holding her head. If the movie stuck with incongruous scenes like that and skipped the “script” part, it would have been great. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951/18 "2019-07-09T00:30:03Z")
> [@JohnM](#): > > Not quite. The zombified motel manager killed them in their room and we see the bodies later when the sheriff and deputies stop at the motel. Oh, I didn’t mean the three twenty-somethings who were travelling in the old car. I mean the three teenagers who were in the juvenile detention center. ---
**Author:** ![JohnM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@JohnM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnM)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951/19 "2019-07-09T16:19:28Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Oh, I didn’t mean the three twenty-somethings who were travelling in the old car. I mean the three teenagers who were in the juvenile detention center. Gotcha. Yeah, but that kind of non sequitur is not unusual in Jarmusch’s work. I get the impression that even when he has to edit out a subplot for sake of length, he’ll leave in bits that he fell in love with during the shoot despite them seeming to not go anywhere in the final cut. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951/20 "2019-07-09T17:30:40Z")
I don’t mind non-sequitors. Tilda Swinton being a Scottish Buddhist alien is a non-sequitor. The three juveniles were just a waste of time and a loose end. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dead-dont-die/831951.md?page=2)