# the death of the Dope **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 15, 2019, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695 "2019-08-15T12:56:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/181 "2019-08-18T11:30:09Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > Some of the most racist and sexist crap I’ve ever seen on this board gets a pass (and a pat in the back more often than not) by the self appointed Woke Commissars. For those of use at home trying to keep score, do you have the line-up of the “Woke Commissars”? While I admit “woke” is a goofy name, the way a bunch of you have turned it into an insult is incredibly dumber. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/182 "2019-08-18T11:46:50Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > What will? Posting quality content instead of complaining about moderation. Using the ‘ignore’ features has removed a lot of the content I don’t want to see. I suggest you try it. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/183 "2019-08-18T17:44:19Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > For those of use at home trying to keep score, do you have the line-up of the “Woke Commissars”? > > While I admit “woke” is a goofy name, the way a bunch of you have turned it into an insult is incredibly dumber. I honestly can’t remember a time when “being woke” wasn’t used sarcastically. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/184 "2019-08-18T18:00:18Z")
Sometimes it’s used idiotically. That’s how I recall seeing it. Also, there have been instances of it being used moronically. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/185 "2019-08-19T04:38:38Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Cite? I’ll let you know next time I see it, if I can be arsed to put work into fixing some people’s lack of awareness; [in the meantime this is one example I just saw.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21789995&postcount=23) ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/186 "2019-08-19T04:58:59Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > [in the meantime this is one example I just saw.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21789995&postcount=23) 😕 You think the statement “I’d just as soon see white guys all go back to where they came from”, posted by a white guy, is a seriously intended “racist” or “sexist” remark? I mean, if you think about what “going back to where they came from” would actually mean in the context of white guys, it should be clear that your interpretation doesn’t make much sense. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/187 "2019-08-19T05:05:28Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Who is more reprehensible in this scenario? The trolls, who are doing what they do, i.e. purposefully trying to prevent meaningful discussion, especially on certain topics, or those other posters whom we don’t label but who seem constitutionally unable to just let troll posts sit there and fester. Maybe we need another Omnibus thread calling out those who can’t leave a steaming pile of turds well enough alone. I know who’s at the top of my list, he’s pulling it in this thread too. The trolls, quite obviously. Your logic amounts to “trolls are gonna troll, so shouldn’t we really blame the victims?” That’s stupid. Victim blaming logic always is. It’s also the exact same logic that justifies every form of online harassment. The trans who get cyberbullied should just get thicker skins. They’re still just trolls, after all. I will never agree with this nonsense that it’s the people who response to the trolls who are the actual problem. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/188 "2019-08-19T05:15:50Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > 😕 You think the statement “I’d just as soon see white guys all go back to where they came from”, posted by a white guy, is a seriously intended “racist” or “sexist” remark? I mean, if you think about what “going back to where they came from” would actually mean in the context of white guys, it should be clear that your interpretation doesn’t make much sense. QED ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/189 "2019-08-19T05:27:42Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > QED 😕 And now you think my pointing out the flaw in your logic somehow counts as “racist” or “sexist”? Look, **Ale** , while it’s certainly true that you’re not much of a thinker, that has nothing to do with your being white or male, and I would never suggest that it did. White people and male people are not intrinsically dumber than anyone else (except sometimes about some issues involving racism or sexism, but that’s a form of culturally indoctrinated obliviousness rather than natural stupidity). ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/190 "2019-08-19T06:18:18Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > That’s not fair, he was continually asked to defend voting for Trump when he didn’t even vote for Trump. On this board, thanks to a few posters, everyone that voted for Trump is evil. Not a really realistic position, but the one you would get glancing through GD & the Pit. > > I didn’t agree with Bricker on a lot of things, but I still respected him and his knowledge. I’d say this is unfair, too, though. **Bricker** was accused of voting for Trump very early on until he made it clear that he did not. It was not some ongoing thing. If a new poster did come in later and incorrectly make that assumption, every other poster in that thread would tell them they were wrong. In fact, **Bricker** was specifically cited repeatedly as proof that even the Republicans on this board did not support Trump–until some others came in and said they did. This is also a very short period of the board’s history, when **Bricker** has been posting here for a long time, and has been called out for his bullshit quite often–particularly his “gotcha games” and other dishonest debating tactics. If people dislike **Bricker** beyond his politics, those are the reasons why. ---
**Author:** ![LAZombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b38774/32.png) [@LAZombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LAZombie)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/191 "2019-08-19T13:40:25Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > So says the one that gets burned by posting fake information from troll central. > > Remember, a lot of the discussion is about finding if one’s sources are bullshit or not, that is the Dope. Why can’t you address my complaint about the endless body shaming of Trump and why people don’t get admonished for that? Do you have the mental capacity to justify it? Maybe someone can help you out? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/192 "2019-08-19T13:48:19Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > Why can’t you address my complaint about the endless body shaming of Trump and why people don’t get admonished for that? Do you have the mental capacity to justify it? Maybe someone can help you out? I responded to it, and you ignored me. Probably because you’re a troll who offers nothing beneficial to this board. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/193 "2019-08-19T13:49:47Z")
Donald Trump is a flabby fat bastard with fucked up hair. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/194 "2019-08-19T14:05:57Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > Why can’t you address my complaint about the endless body shaming of Trump and why people don’t get admonished for that? Do you have the mental capacity to justify it? Maybe someone can help you out? Maybe – just maybe, I’m going out on a limb here – maybe by his own constant body shaming of others, Trump is inviting that sort of ridicule. He’s the one setting the tone in those discussions. Not that this means they never go too far. Next time someone calls Trump a shit-gibbon in GQ you should probably report it. I do, occasionally, if I think it’s bad enough. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/195 "2019-08-19T14:14:20Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > Why can’t you address my complaint about the endless body shaming of Trump and why people don’t get admonished for that? Do you have the mental capacity to justify it? Maybe someone can help you out? It’s quite simple, really, and is something you should’ve figured out by 3rd grade, 8th at the latest: Donald Trump is an asshole. Everyone agrees he’s an asshole, and nobody bothers to defend the asshole. By his very nature, he invites abuse, and therefore is worthy of every bit of scorn we can put on his fat ass, his ridiculous hair, his obvious incestuous feelings for his daughter, his pouty whiny baby lips… all of it is fair game. And why? Why is he so special? [For this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX9reO3QnUA). So fuck this guy, and fuck everybody who defends him and comes here whining like a little bitch saying “OH, POOR DONNIES TRUMPS GOTZ BODY SHAMED ON THE DOPERS, THATS SO MEAN, GUYS!” ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/196 "2019-08-19T14:17:04Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > Why can’t you address my complaint about the endless body shaming of Trump and why people don’t get admonished for that? Do you have the mental capacity to justify it? Maybe someone can help you out? It’s obvious double standards. But what do you expect from disingenuous hypocrites? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/197 "2019-08-19T14:20:39Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > It’s obvious double standards. But what do you expect from disingenuous hypocrites? It’s not a double-standard – I’ve seen it moderated before (in GD and Elections, IIRC). And if you’re not reporting it when you see it, then the moderators may miss it. **LAZombie** is a troll so obvious that even I can see it. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/198 "2019-08-19T14:25:20Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > It’s obvious double standards. But what do you expect from disingenuous hypocrites? Breathing must be an issue when you have your head so far up your own ass. It does explain the brain damage, though. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/199 "2019-08-19T14:26:44Z")
And god, **octopus** , but your endless and lazy whining about the board and the posters is so, so tiresome. You used to put effort and thought into discussions, but nowadays it’s rare that I see any post from you that isn’t an effort-free, mindless whine about the board, with the same predictable so-broad-as-to-be-useless potshots like that last one. Do you really have fun posting the same thing, over and over again, in the Pit? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/200 "2019-08-19T14:30:40Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > Why can’t you address my complaint about the endless body shaming of Trump and why people don’t get admonished for that? Do you have the mental capacity to justify it? Maybe someone can help you out? The next time you pull your head out of his ass, listen to what Trump says about other people. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695.md?page=11)