# the death of the Dope

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 15, 2019, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695 "2019-08-15T12:56:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/221 "2019-08-19T16:02:34Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> If any of them ever show up, I’ll try not to be too mean to them in the Pit. Is that what they’re waiting for?

Maybe they would be more comfortable slinging shit indiscriminately if we renamed “The BBQ Pit” to something like “The Trump Rally”?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/222 "2019-08-19T16:06:36Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Maybe they would be more comfortable slinging shit indiscriminately if we renamed “The BBQ Pit” to something like “The Trump Rally”?

It would be the largest forum community in the history of message boards. Not to mention the thousands outside who couldn’t get in.

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/223 "2019-08-19T16:17:23Z")

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He also is arguably the most powerful person in the US (unfortunately). So on top of all the other excellent points about how he calls other less powerful people ugly and fat, there’s the fact that he can basically stomp everyone else like a bug. So I have a hard time feeling sorry for him when someone makes fun of his ridiculous hair, fatness, and pouty lips.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/224 "2019-08-19T16:27:07Z")

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His stubby fingers. His mushroom pecker. His chemical complexion. His so-called job title.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/225 "2019-08-19T16:29:33Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Then why accuse people of being “disingenuous hypocrites”?
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> Asshat.

Because they are.

Asshat.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/226 "2019-08-19T16:29:41Z")

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His best words. His stable geniusness.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/227 "2019-08-19T16:30:48Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Because they are.
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> Asshat.

Original thought: Ever had one?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/228 "2019-08-19T16:40:21Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Yes, it looks like it’s endless but that’s the funny thing about being a single poster that points out the hypocrisy of a whole group of other posters. A group that’s made it their decade long obsession to manipulate the mods and this board to create an environment friendly only for a clique.
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> But if you took the aggregate of posts that concerned the nature of the board mine would be a small fraction of the total. That’s just the nature of being in the ideological minority.
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> Look at this very thread, the subject of it is another of an endless series of veiled threats about the future of this board if the OP’s vision of the board isn’t realized.
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> Anyways, iiandyiiii, you know my issue isn’t with this board. It’s with the hypocrisy of a group who on one hand whine and threaten because the board isn’t ‘welcoming’ but then on the other hand are the biggest, organized group that makes the board unwelcoming for others. So please, at least don’t mischaracterize my position.🙂

What group? Put some effort into it. If you have a problem with posts, then address those posts. If you have a problem with a poster, then address that poster. Make some specific criticisms against specific posts and posters. It might take some effort, but if it’s valid criticism, then that’s worthwhile.

Otherwise, it’s just lazy, meaningless potshots at an unnamed and mysterious group, and why should anyone pay any attention to vague and lazy potshots aimed at no one in particular? I don’t know who or what you’re talking about, because you put so little effort into your criticism.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/229 "2019-08-19T16:42:36Z")

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His long ass ties attempting to make his mass look vertical rather than horizontal.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/230 "2019-08-19T17:01:00Z")

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You forgot his tiny hands. Always make sure you point out his tiny little toddler hands.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/231 "2019-08-19T17:07:11Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> When you can’t dispute the facts attack the poster. :dubious:
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> And if wanted to zombie bitch I’m sure your own history would provide plenty of fodder.

> [@octopus](#):
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> You are straight up retarded.

> [@octopus](#):
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> Because they are.
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> Asshat.

I know it’s easier to respond to people who aren’t engaging you anyways with pithy one liners, but when you just ignore posts like mine that actually try to address your arguments and engage with you, it makes me wonder whether you’re actually interested in a real discussion, or if pithy one liners are the goal here.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/232 "2019-08-19T17:50:07Z")

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Being a conservative here is very difficult, but you should not be blaming liberals for that.

You have a whole universe of bad examples leading you down the road to complete solipsistic triumphalism (unearned and unreal I might add), and you are happy to skip down that road whistling. Your pols are hideous craven cowards, publicly, famously and for all time.

You need to be avoiding the fox news/lou dobbs/hannity echo effect, and making valid points that acknowledge the humanity of the people you are arguing against.

You also need to recognize that you are out of the shadows now with the white supremacy and the hate, on the right. That makes it a whole different world. Stop blaming the new world you have on liberals. You made this. Stop projecting.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/233 "2019-08-19T17:56:37Z")

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> [@steatopygia](#):
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> Why are octopus’s posts like nails on a chalkboard? I can’t put my finger on it but every post is amazingly annoying.

He’s found the optimal intersection of stupid and confident.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/234 "2019-08-19T17:59:16Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> He’s found the optimal intersection of stupid and confident.

Stupident.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/235 "2019-08-19T18:00:31Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> 1. This is The BBQ Pit, you dipshit.
> 2. The “victim” you have chosen to protect is a lying, womanizing cheat and scoundrel.
> 3. The is The BBQ Pit, troll.
> 4. If you claim that GWB was compared to a chimp without consequence from the moderators, then you should have the wherewithal to back up what you say.
> 5. This is The BBQ Pit, you bottom-feeding, mouth-breathing, slack-jawed, piss-poor excuse of a human being.

Wow. If only you had nads that big IRL.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/236 "2019-08-19T18:01:41Z")

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Stupident with a soupçon of conspiracy theory. Constupident?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/237 "2019-08-19T18:08:08Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Wow. If only you had nads that big IRL.

Wow. If you only had nads.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/238 "2019-08-19T18:09:11Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Stupident with a soupçon of conspiracy theory. Constupident?

Constupation?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/239 "2019-08-19T18:21:38Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> I know it’s easier to respond to people who aren’t engaging you anyways with pithy one liners, but when you just ignore posts like mine that actually try to address your arguments and engage with you, it makes me wonder whether you’re actually interested in a real discussion, or if pithy one liners are the goal here.

I was actually just reading your posts in ATMB and was going to comment on how reasonable and high quality they were. That’s how people should have responded in GQ instead of immediately going full crusade.

Yours is the type of writing that actually helps educate people so thank you for taking the time.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/240 "2019-08-19T18:27:58Z")

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“I was JUST going to do the dishes, Dad! God!”

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