# the death of the Dope **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 15, 2019, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695 "2019-08-15T12:56:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/361 "2019-08-22T17:11:41Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I think you should continue to express yourself. Your extensive posting history places you in the enviable position where nobody on the board could possibly think any less of you. > [@Airbeck](#): > > (checks forum) > > Shove it up your ass All I hear is bzzzzzzzzz. 🐝 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/362 "2019-08-22T17:13:48Z")
Your bee fetish is boring. Buzz off. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/363 "2019-08-22T17:37:13Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > All I hear is bzzzzzzzzz. Take your wife’s vibrator out of your ear. She’ll be pissed if she catches you using it again. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/364 "2019-08-22T17:37:56Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > All I hear is bzzzzzzzzz. > > 🐝 And all I hear is whining and crying. Crybaby. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/365 "2019-08-22T18:24:29Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Stop demanding impossible to meet standards of precision as evidence of obvious to any but the willfully blind or dishonest board characteristics. > > With the way some around here demand complete precision in language we couldn’t even state that water is wet without it being challenged. Yet, use language that isn’t approved by the hive mind and one will be told not only exactly what that language means but also exactly the thought process and character of the one using it. > > So not only do we have a hive mind the hive mind refuses to play by its own rules. So, just to clarify, your position is that the word can’t be defined because defining it would prove that you’re using it wrong. You know you’re using it wrong, and you know that no sensible, honest person could **ever** describe this forum as a hive mind, _particularly_ in comparison to typical conservative forums. Of course you’re not honest, and very very probably not sensible, so you continue to misuse the word like a moron in an extraordinarily juvenile attempt to troll. > [@octopus](#): > > All I hear is bzzzzzzzzz. > > 🐝 God, what a toddler. And yes, I expect your rebuttal of this to be a further example of your toddler-like mentality. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/366 "2019-08-22T21:07:19Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > a president who is calling himself Jesus And proclaiming that to a Jewish audience! ---
**Author:** ![LAZombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b38774/32.png) [@LAZombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LAZombie)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/367 "2019-08-23T14:19:54Z")
**From this point on, staying on the topic shall be considered thread shitting.** The Powers That Be. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/368 "2019-08-23T14:23:14Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > **From this point on, staying on the topic shall be considered thread shitting.** > > The Powers That Be. FOT. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/369 "2019-08-23T14:27:50Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > So not only do we have a hive mind the hive mind refuses to play by its own rules. So therefore, it’s not a bzzzzzzzzzz hive mind bzzzzzzzz. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/370 "2019-08-23T14:39:26Z")
_sigh_ My life is so relaxing now that I have octoputz on ignore. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/371 "2019-08-23T16:19:42Z")
Conservatives complaining that the Dope is a liberal bubble and liberals complaining that we aren’t kicking out all the conservatives Must be a day that ends in y ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/372 "2019-08-23T16:27:47Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Conservatives complaining that the Dope is a liberal bubble and liberals complaining that we aren’t kicking out all the conservatives > > Must be a day that ends in y And you making up that second part so that you can pretend that “Both Sides Do It!!!” Must be a day you are posting here. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/373 "2019-08-23T17:09:00Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > _sigh_ My life is so relaxing now that I have octoputz on ignore. I keep postponing putting people on ignore, like it’s a test of my mental fortitude. I need to just try it and see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/374 "2019-08-23T17:15:34Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > And you making up that second part so that you can pretend that “Both Sides Do It!!!” > Must be a day you are posting here. To be fair, there is a frequently-expressed opinion that the moderators are far too lenient on conservatives who post on the forums, especially those who are often referred to in the Pit as trolls. That could be interpreted (in an extreme way) as a wish that all conservatives be kicked out. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/375 "2019-08-23T17:18:50Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > To be fair, there is a frequently-expressed opinion that the moderators are far too lenient on conservatives who post on the forums, especially those who are often referred to in the Pit as trolls. That could be interpreted (in an extreme way) as a wish that all conservatives be kicked out. I interpret that reaction as a deliberate misinterpretation designed to show a false equivalency, but to each his own. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/376 "2019-08-23T17:34:26Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Conservatives complaining that the Dope is a liberal bubble and liberals complaining that we aren’t kicking out all the conservatives > > Must be a day that ends in y It is understandable that fighting ignorance, to the ignorant, would feel like persecution. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/377 "2019-08-23T17:36:02Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > There was disagreement largely about the merits and/or effectiveness of the proposal, not the underlying assumption about racism. > > There’s more examples of course, but it is hard to take seriously the view that the SDBM isn’t unwelcoming to conservative viewpoints. What with [personal responsibility being racist](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=879266), [conservative values being based on bigotry](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21753600#post21753600), and not being sufficiently outraged regarding US deportation practices is like [concentration camps](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21799668&postcount=758), [gulags, killing fields](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21801094&postcount=779), and [genocide](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21803133&postcount=813). Or that [wanting power delegated locally](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19154564&postcount=33) in [hopes of greater liberty is racist](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19156593&postcount=56). [Or opposition](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19109978&postcount=41) to [the ACA](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19110373&postcount=63) is [racist](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19109730&postcount=24). And there are plenty of times that anyone on the liberal side of the spectrum, or anyone on the gun control side of the spectrum, gets told what their nefarious motives are, over and over again. The board isn’t really all that welcoming to anyone on the left either. > [@](#): > > It’s fine. I’ll continue thinking that a number of progressives and liberals are like fascists, so it’s all simpatico. For instance, given the comments that you make in GD threads about your beliefs about the motives of your debate opponents, I really don’t think that you are joking here, and that you really do see liberals and progressives as fascists. How welcoming is that? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/378 "2019-08-23T17:44:00Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > I keep postponing putting people on ignore, like it’s a test of my mental fortitude. I need to just try it and see what happens. The only possible good thing that can come from reading his posts is that you see something that the moderators would object to. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/379 "2019-08-23T17:45:01Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > I keep postponing putting people on ignore, like it’s a test of my mental fortitude. I need to just try it and see what happens. _Illegitimi non carborundum._ ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695/380 "2019-08-23T18:05:11Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > For real? There is a current thread in GD equating right wing folks with racists. Or those that support gun rights as racists. The board isn’t very open towards conservatives or right leaning views at all. This isn’t helped by the fact that so many conservative arguments are often presented poorly. OK, here it is. Why don’t you resolve to fight against those poor arguments? What do you have to gain by letting them go. You are an officer in the “fighting ignorance” army, being a mod here. Why not fight the fight? If a conservative did that do you think it might change the perceptions of users about conservatism? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-of-the-dope/838695.md?page=20)