# The death penalty for child rape! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 27, 2003, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975 "2003-08-27T14:09:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975/141 "2003-09-01T01:22:22Z")
SunTsu Wrote: > [@](#): > > Weak Ludovic weak… > > We were not discussing the penalties for theft and my opinion, as it has been pointed out, doesn’t matter so what’s the point in answering. I have a suspicion you are a hypocrite because you don’t believe that theft should be prosecuted with the death penalty, whereas child rape should be. Until you answer, that I will instead file you under “asshat”. > [@](#): > > If we adopted the laws of some of our middle-eastern friends then there would be alot of people missing hands how does that sound? It’d be tough for them to committ repeat offences. exactly: I’m saying your theory, if taken to other equally serious crimes, would make us look like them. Ahhh, maybe you WANT that. > [@](#): > > I know in louisiana if you find someone in your home in the midst of a theft then you have all rights to use deadly force. The problem I have personally had was out of the 5 times I have dealt with this 2 times the burgulars got away clean. The other times they went to prison. I made a point to remember their faces and names just incase they get any ideas for future retribution. So? FTR I am all for deadly force to stop invasions and burglaries. > [@](#): > > Ludovic you should try jumping its exhiliatating. Just be prepared for the sudden stop unless you are on snowskis or something like. Now we come to the meat of it. You are, indeed, just a provocative asshat. > [@](#): > > Its easy to anonymously call someone a coward here I’ve found. Try doing it real life some time for a change. I’m banking you haven’t done that either though. But I do. I run, and some punks get this brilliant idea once in awhile to yell out catcalls at me from their car. Occasionally my annoyance/anger gets the best of me and I yell back and challenge them. They’ve never stopped. 'Twas mighty big of them to yell at me from the safety of a car. They were cowards. ---
**Author:** ![SunTzu2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5a626/32.png) [@SunTzu2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunTzu2U)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975/142 "2003-09-01T02:08:31Z")
Ok for your pleasure Ludovic no theft is not a crime which should warrent the death penalty. Before you spout off again you said THEFT Ludovic not armed robbery, not assault, not robbing a bank just plain theft. It happens every second of every day so the bodies would start piling up quick. So Ludovic I’m assuming you are in favor of this perchance? If so better turn yourself in for those office supplies you took. ---
**Author:** ![SunTzu2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5a626/32.png) [@SunTzu2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunTzu2U)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975/143 "2003-09-01T02:15:07Z")
Ok for your pleasure Ludovic no theft is not a crime which should warrent the death penalty. Before you spout off again you said THEFT Ludovic not armed robbery, not assault, not robbing a bank just plain theft. It happens every second of every day so the bodies would start piling up quick. The people who broke into my house and ransacked it stole over $20,000 of furniture, jewelery, other valuables AND hijacked my identity are serving 10 to 20 hard labor right now. I got some of the stuff back but not all of it. I’m satisfied with the verdict and the punishment. So Ludovic I’m assuming you are in favor of this perchance? If so better turn yourself in for those office supplies you took. So, Ludovic, what is the difference between yelling at someone from a moving car and taking a sideswipe at someone here? Its still looks like cowardice to me. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975/144 "2003-09-01T05:09:56Z")
Go away, and feed no more. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975/145 "2003-09-01T14:19:14Z")
Yeah, and going up to someone on parole and thus, according to you, was likely to not be believed by the police and threatening to kill him if he does not abide by your individually-decided restrictions is so brave, Sun. ---
**Author:** ![Clint\_in\_Wichita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Clint\_in\_Wichita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clint_in_Wichita)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975/146 "2003-09-01T22:49:29Z")
I’m all for the execution of child rapists. I don’t care if it is a deterrent. I don’t care what it costs. I don’t care about any goddamn moral implications. People that rape children deserve to die, and die horribly. They should be thankful when they _only_ receive the electric chair or lethal injection. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975/147 "2003-09-01T23:07:31Z")
And what other interesting punishments are you all for that conflict with our legal code? Or is your extremism limited to merely one crime? ---
**Author:** ![SunTzu2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5a626/32.png) [@SunTzu2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunTzu2U)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975/148 "2003-09-02T02:38:37Z")
The legal code in Louisiana allows for the death penalty for child molesters. There is no conflict as I can see. I’m taking it that Monty and Ludovic disagree with this EVEN when it is the LAW. If you don’t have children then you can’t understand. BTW Monty, I spoke with the assistant warden about my schedule for this week and found out that my molester is now back in prison for breaking his parole. It seems he found another little girl. Another victim to add to the ever growing list. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975/149 "2003-09-02T02:49:56Z")
You take it wrong, SunTzu2U. What I disagree with is your illegal harassment and threatening of an individual on parole. What I disagree with is the illegal murder of one inmate by another. What I disagree with is the illegal assault of one inmate by another. What I disagree with is the rape of one inmate by another. Did you also speak with the police or the assistant warden about your unlawful act? ---
**Author:** ![SunTzu2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5a626/32.png) [@SunTzu2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunTzu2U)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975/150 "2003-09-02T03:10:50Z")
Again you still don’t get it. If you are on my property and I don’t want you there you are in the wrong. His very presence was enough to violate his parole. ---
**Author:** ![SunTzu2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5a626/32.png) [@SunTzu2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunTzu2U)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975/151 "2003-09-02T03:14:21Z")
As to the other points its called prison justice my friend and its not going to stop no matter how much whining from you. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975/152 "2003-09-02T03:22:52Z")
I’m not whining, you murderous fool. I’m pointing out that you are really no different than that killing prisoner. If the guy had violated his parole, does that give you a legal right to threaten to take his life? If so, please provide the statute which grants it. If the guy had violated his parole, why did you not call the police for him to be carted back to prison? Perhaps it’s because you were looking for an excuse to kill or harass the man? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975/153 "2003-09-02T03:29:48Z")
“Prison justice”? Oh, then that murder charge the guy who killed the other prisoner is facing is a false charge? What, pray tell then, are you doing about that prosecution? Are you writing the appropriate authorities about the case? Have you contacted any prisoner advocacy groups on his behalf? Or do you not care that he might get convicted of a false charge? ---
**Author:** ![SunTzu2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5a626/32.png) [@SunTzu2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunTzu2U)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975/154 "2003-09-02T03:41:37Z")
No monty I was giving the guy a break. I wanted him to know where we stood on this and he understood. That’s all. The guy who killed the other prisoner has nothing to lose except his life which he pretty much has accepted. False charges? How do you think that will happen when he was found killing the guy? Convicted prisoners by law do not have any of the rights that a free unconvicted person takes for granted. Is it terrible that someone died? YES. Should the murderer get the death sentence? YES. IIRC the inmate in question was serving life or on death row so if you convict him for this one do you kill him twice? It becomes a moot point once his sentence is carried out. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975/155 "2003-09-02T03:50:26Z")
In other words you admit that what you did was tell someone you would kill them. Isn’t that considered communicationg a threat or harassment? As to the actual killing: Well, according to you it’s justice. Then that can’t be a crime, right? Convicted persons actually do have some of the rights an unconvicted person has: right to trial, right to life, right to a presumption of innocence, just to name a few. BTW, the jurisdiction in which this murder (which you claim is justice but yet you’re completely unconcerned that someone’s facing a trial for a just act) occurred is one which does not have a death penalty. Your entire position is contradictory. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975/156 "2003-09-02T04:13:01Z")
Sun: You are a damn liar. This statement from you: > [@](#): > > So when I happened to meet this individual I politely inquired about the circumstances as to why he was a child molester. > > He told me he had sex with a 12 year old when he was 19. He was 22 at the time. I then made it perfectly clear that if I found him on my property or speaking to my daughter the coroner would be carrying his body off in a bag. He got the message. shows that you went looking for the guy. You approached him. He was not doing a damn thing to you or anyone else for that matter. You went looking to harass someone. ---
**Author:** ![SunTzu2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5a626/32.png) [@SunTzu2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunTzu2U)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975/157 "2003-09-02T04:18:34Z")
I didn’t have to go looking for him monty, he was in my front yard! Do you let people wander through your yard without question? Maybe where you live but not in my town. They pretty well have a good reason to be there. Otherwise they don’t have any business there at all. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975/158 "2003-09-02T04:23:38Z")
And yet you first stated you went to look for the guy. Now when you’re getting the grief you deserve for harassing and threatening the man, you change your story. You not only are a liar, you a bad and pathetic liar. As I said earlier, you are no different really than the killer in the prison. Actually, you very well may be worse: you claim that the killing is just and yet you seem to think the murder charge against the killer is also just. What is this–murder as a victimless crime? To sum it up: you are a liar, a fool, and devoid of ethics regarding this issue. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975/159 "2003-09-02T04:26:54Z")
Left out something: Oh, and not having business crossing a lawn (if that’s really the truth–I have good reason now to doubt a single word from you) rates a death penalty? Reviewing the posts in this thread, I noticed that when someone asked you for a citation, you told them to prove their case in opposition instead. I asked you for a citation and you gave a lame response instead. I’m starting to think that you’re full of crap with your other assertions also. ---
**Author:** ![SunTzu2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5a626/32.png) [@SunTzu2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunTzu2U)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975/160 "2003-09-02T04:46:28Z")
I did not say the killing was just. I said it was prison justice. You obviously don’t know what that means. In prison its the law of the jungle. The strong survive the weak die. THAT’S prison justice my friend! It does not operate on any legal code you can think of. It is a code unto its own and I pitty you if you ever get incarcarated if you think you have rights. You will be someones bitch within a week! Get your mind on right monty. You think that the guy who killed the priest was worried about what would happen to him? HE WAS IN PRISON! Like I posted before the inmates function at almost an animal level in prison. They don’t see anything wrong with killing a childmolester. In their minds its right. Sorry if you don’t agree with them but they are the ones there and they make the rules from time to time. I am not dismissing what the inmate did. Monty why don’t you take a sideswipe at someone without the anonymity of this board. You can call me what you want but its YOUR opinion thats all! You were not there so how in the hell could you say what happened? LIAR! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-death-penalty-for-child-rape/197975.md?page=9)