# The deepest sympathys to all you Irish out there. **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 18, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083 "2009-11-18T22:35:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![footballisplayedwithyourfeet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9f8e36/32.png) [@footballisplayedwithyourfeet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/footballisplayedwithyourfeet)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083/1 "2009-11-18T22:35:34Z")
I know there are a some Irish dopers out there, and I just want to give you all my sympathys for the robing that happened in Paris just a couple of minutes ago. It is an absolute scandal!! ps if Thierry Henry will break his leg when leaving the showers I’ll laugh and laugh, wipe my eyes, and laugh a bit more… pps I’m not Irish, just mad ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083/2 "2009-11-18T22:36:55Z")
Was this as bad as the text commentary on the Beeb web site made it seem? ---
**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083/3 "2009-11-18T22:40:05Z")
I don’t see what the problem was. He didn’t cheat…just a crafty move by a veteran. Like a thumb to the eyes or the spitball. It was the Hand of God II except it happened in qualifying instead of the WC quarterfinals. ---
**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083/4 "2009-11-18T22:42:35Z")
> [@villa](#): > > Was this as bad as the text commentary on the Beeb web site made it seem? Totally. It was the clearest example of deliberate handball one could possibly imagine. ---
**Author:** ![Wallenstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5a626/32.png) [@Wallenstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083/5 "2009-11-18T22:55:36Z")
Just seen the clip on youtube… was a pretty blatant handball, but I can see why it might have been missed. Sounds like the Bogtrotters should have buried the game in 90 mins though, couple of bad misses. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083/6 "2009-11-18T22:58:55Z")
Can somebody link it? ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083/7 "2009-11-18T22:59:22Z")
> [@Kid\_A](#): > > I don’t see what the problem was. He didn’t cheat…just a crafty move by a veteran. Like a thumb to the eyes or the spitball. > > It was the Hand of God II except it happened in qualifying instead of the WC quarterfinals. Is English your first language? I ask as you seem to be struggling with what “cheat” actually means. I’m personally hoping for something like when Arsenal offered a replay to Sheffield United after Kanu screwed up badly after a “sportsmanship after injury” pass back to the opposite team. I also NEED to see someone, on camera, ask Henry to his face why he cheated like that. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083/8 "2009-11-18T23:00:22Z")
> [@footballisplayedwithyourfeet](#): > > I know there are a some Irish dopers out there, and I just want to give you all my sympathys for the robing that happened in Paris just a couple of minutes ago. It is an absolute scandal!! > ps if Thierry Henry will break his leg when leaving the showers I’ll laugh and laugh, wipe my eyes, and laugh a bit more… > > pps I’m not Irish, just mad Gee, I thought the Notre Dame Athletic Director had just announced that Charlie Weis would be retain for another year. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083/9 "2009-11-18T23:00:26Z")
> [@Wallenstein](#): > > Just seen the clip on youtube… was a pretty blatant handball, but I can see why it might have been missed. Not if you see it from the side. There was nothing in the way of the linesman seeing it. Even then, it doesn’t forgive Henry for even attempting it. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083/10 "2009-11-18T23:02:11Z")
The handball in animated GIF form: [![](https://tinypic.com/images/goodbye.jpg) ](https://tinypic.com/images/goodbye.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083/11 "2009-11-18T23:04:47Z")
Don’t know how long this’ll be up. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjTxllNRKM4) Disgraceful. ---
**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083/12 "2009-11-18T23:09:02Z")
That was horrible. I’m so sorry. F\*cking French ☹ ---
**Author:** ![TheBoltEater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@TheBoltEater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheBoltEater)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083/13 "2009-11-18T23:09:24Z")
Does anyone know if Ireland have declared war on France yet? The Hand of Frog will be forgotten, oh, I’m guessing just about never. ---
**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083/14 "2009-11-18T23:10:38Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Is English your first language? > > I ask as you seem to be struggling with what “cheat” actually means. > > I’m personally hoping for something like when Arsenal offered a replay to Sheffield United after Kanu screwed up badly after a “sportsmanship after injury” pass back to the opposite team. > > I also NEED to see someone, on camera, ask Henry to his face why he cheated like that. A replay? Give me a break. Why would Henry answer that question with a honest answer? The Hand of God is part of soccer’s lore now and everyone knows what happened there (wink, wink). People are wanting him to be banned for life. Everybody needs to calm down. It was a handball, a blown call, a tough break for Ireland but these things happen in sports. I just can’t get worked up over it. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083/15 "2009-11-18T23:20:36Z")
> [@Kid\_A](#): > > A replay? Give me a break. Why would Henry answer that question with a honest answer? The Hand of God is part of soccer’s lore now and everyone knows what happened there (wink, wink). > > People are wanting him to be banned for life. Everybody needs to calm down. It was a handball, a blown call, a tough break for Ireland but these things happen in sports. I just can’t get worked up over it. It was cheating. Cheating which knocked a team out of the World Cup. A 14 month campaign killed off at the death by a cheat. A replay is what an honourable person would offer. I’m not saying force it, I am saying France should offer it, like Wenger’s Arsenal did. ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083/16 "2009-11-18T23:47:29Z")
> [@Kid\_A](#): > > I don’t see what the problem was. He didn’t cheat…just a crafty move by a veteran. Like a thumb to the eyes or the spitball. > > It was the Hand of God II except it happened in qualifying instead of the WC quarterfinals. you clearly did not see the game. At all. He had to handle the ball twice in order to manipulate the ball into a position where he could cross it. It didn’t just “hit his hand”. So yes, he cheated. Besides the obvious off sides (it’s a set piece, they were off side at the kick), it was a cynical and petty move. Linesmen and ref should be ashamed of themselves. Domenach is a small, small man. And Wallenstein, calling us Bogtrotters, not so cool. We were the better team over two legs. I think our lack of real depth on the bench was what ultimately doomed us (oh, that and the blatant cheating). ---
**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083/17 "2009-11-19T00:01:56Z")
Henry is a cheat and how the ref and linesman managed to miss both the offsides and the handball is pure mystery. We need video evidence, now. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083/18 "2009-11-19T00:09:23Z")
Fucking travesty. The linesman should be shot. ETA: now all you Paddies know what it felt like to be at the mercy of the Hand of God. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr. ETA2: Va va vooooobollocks. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083/19 "2009-11-19T00:46:01Z")
I thought this thread was going to be about Charlie Weis until I saw the OP’s name. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083/20 "2009-11-19T00:50:01Z")
> [@Svejk\_1](#): > > That was horrible. I’m so sorry. F\*cking French ☹ Dude, WTF? Don’t be hating on the French because of some cheating ahole. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-deepest-sympathys-to-all-you-irish-out-there/518083.md?page=2)