# The Democratic National Convention

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 17, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158 "2016-07-17T21:58:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/281 "2016-07-26T21:16:22Z")

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Very interesting, **snoe**!

So am I the only one who thought Sarah Silverman and Al Franken were great? And Sarah was looking fly. Rrowrr.

> [@Frank](#):
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> Wait, what? He should only have appeared if he thought it would advance his personal (financial) interests?

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Artists don’t get paid for Spotify :).
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> I think he’s saying that political parties should be using music to bring in young voters, that boomers playing boomer music for one another isn’t a great plan. If that’s his point, I’m not sure I agree with it: as long as not all the music is boomer music, as long as there are some up-and-comers, I’m fine with it.

That’s not really what I meant, although I could sort of see that point. I think if he were capable of singing that song well, it could appeal to young people even if they had never heard it before. I just meant that they should feature performers who are performing at a top-notch level now, not just jogging our memories of how great they used to be.

Additionally, I find it surprising that elderly musicians want to tarnish their legacy this way. I remember years ago hearing Trey Anastasio from Phish talk about a famous opera singer who retired and would not sing from that point on, not even “Happy Birthday” at a small family party. I really respect that.

> [@asahi](#):
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> I think the Democrats, like the Republicans, avoided the apocalyptic convention. They encountered some turbulence but avoided the worst case scenario. I’d say that the message of civility, respect, and maturity will probably get more mileage than the shit show that republicans put on last week. If it doesn’t, I truly worry about the next 50 years for this country, and maybe the next 100 years. It’s not so much that Trump himself is a tyrant; it’s what he represents and what the electorate would in effect be supporting: anti-intellectualism, politics of rage, knowingly accepting falsehoods in exchange for the American version of a creation myth based on White Christian supremacy.

Exactly. If he were to win this election, that would be a serious indictment of the American people. Although I should be more specific, since it would be unlikely for him to get significant support from racial minorities. So if he were to win, that would mean an extremely high level of support from non-Hispanic whites, who are still the majority even if a shrinking one. As a white guy by all outward appearances, I think I would probably need to wear a shirt or button everywhere indicating that I did not vote for him.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Anybody watch Rep. Marcia Fudge adjourn the convention for the day, walk off, then walk right back on, mutter “Where is it?” as she rummaged around under the podium, then take out and bang the gavel? Gold, Jerry, gold!

I saw a GIF that appeared to be what you are talking about, but it looked like someone else, not Fudge.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/282 "2016-07-26T21:26:26Z")

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NM - closing, not opening.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/283 "2016-07-26T21:55:55Z")

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Er, no, Iowa, Hillary is not the first to nominate a woman to be President. Um, Green Party, anybody?

Just setting the record straight.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/284 "2016-07-26T22:04:59Z")

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Long before the Green Party existed, actually.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/285 "2016-07-26T22:10:04Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Er, no, Iowa, Hillary is not the first to nominate a woman to be President. Um, Green Party, anybody?
> 
> Just setting the record straight.

There have been a bunch [if you look here.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_United_States_presidential_and_vice-presidential_candidates)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/286 "2016-07-26T22:13:43Z")

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Ha, the Democratic delegation from Nevada casting shade at the Republican delegation for getting the state’s capital wrong. 😃

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/287 "2016-07-26T22:14:00Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Er, no, Iowa, Hillary is not the first to nominate a woman to be President. Um, Green Party, anybody?

\*Real \*parties, not hobbyists.

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/288 "2016-07-26T22:44:33Z")

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Northern Marianas wins best costume.  
Indiana has best rap.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/289 "2016-07-26T22:53:04Z")

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That lady from Oklahoma sounded like Donald Duck. She wins the voice Emmy.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/290 "2016-07-26T22:54:01Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Er, no, Iowa, Hillary is not the first to nominate a woman to be President. Um, Green Party, anybody?
> 
> Just setting the record straight.

[Victoria Woodhull](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Woodhull#Presidential_candidate), _18_72.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/291 "2016-07-26T22:55:53Z")

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I don’t think Governor Cuomo really meant that Bill Clinton brought the country to “new limits”.

I’m shocked, though, that they didn’t manipulate the vote so that New York put Hillary over the top.

Man “Do The Most Good” has to be one of the worst campaign slogans I’ve ever seen.

Wyoming delegation wearing 'BLACK LIVES MATTER IN THE EQUALITY STATE"

I wonder why Bernie was sitting down at the state delegation. Good for Bernie for the call for acclimation and unity.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/292 "2016-07-26T22:58:21Z")

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Sanders took a horrible amount of time to come around to it, but he ended it with class and grace. Good for him.

Vote Clinton!

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/293 "2016-07-26T23:10:28Z")

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Someone on the Republican side, now that Trump is the actual nominee, has indoctrinated him properly into the party. I heard the proof myself. While decrying the lack of anyone having spoken the name “ISIS” at the convention last night, Trump called it the “Democrat convention”. Now it’s _really_ official. And a bit more petty.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/294 "2016-07-26T23:18:23Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> If he were to win this election, that would be a serious indictment of the American people. Although I should be more specific, since it would be unlikely for him to get significant support from racial minorities. So if he were to win, that would mean an extremely high level of support from non-Hispanic whites, who are still the majority even if a shrinking one. As a white guy by all outward appearances, I think I would probably need to wear a shirt or button everywhere indicating that I did not vote for him.

[Here ya go…](http://ourvillagelife.com/gallery/t-shirt-im-sorry-my-presidents-idiot)

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/295 "2016-07-27T00:20:28Z")

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King pointed at the mountaintop! Kennedy pointed at the Moon! Trump pointed at Jorge Ramos and said, “Get him outta here!!”

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/296 "2016-07-27T01:07:46Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Good for Bernie for the call for acclimation and unity.

Accl **a** mation. Not at all the same thing.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/297 "2016-07-27T01:23:13Z")

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A couple of mundane observations about Bernie’s motion:

1. Doesn’t a suspension of the rules require unanimous consent?

2. Even if only a majority was required, couldn’t a die hard Bernie supporter have requested a division and forced the chair to take a roll call vote on the question?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/298 "2016-07-27T01:25:37Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> A couple of mundane observations about Bernie’s motion:
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> 1. Doesn’t a suspension of the rules require unanimous consent?
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> 2. Even if only a majority was required, couldn’t a die hard Bernie supporter have requested a division and forced the chair to take a roll call vote on the question?

I think they made it happen so fast that there was no time for dissent.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/299 "2016-07-27T01:32:40Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I think they made it happen so fast that there was no time for dissent.

The chair asked all in favor to say “aye.” An overwhelming majority voted “aye” but a substantial minority voted “nay.”

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/300 "2016-07-27T01:50:29Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> 1. Even if only a majority was required, couldn’t a die hard Bernie supporter have requested a division and forced the chair to take a roll call vote on the question?

I’m not sure, but I think the Bernie-or-Bust delegates would have to control a majority of a delegation to do this.

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