# The Democratic National Convention

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 17, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158 "2016-07-17T21:58:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/441 "2016-07-28T02:11:07Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Alright, big presentation of Tim Kaine now… (Enters to _“Get Ready 'cause Here I Come”_)
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> Hope he brings what he had in Miami on Saturday.
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> (Hmm… Palin and Biden both had sons in the service and deploying around the time they were nominated… so does Kaine now…)
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> That showed up in another thread, forget which of the dozen following him.
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> But yeah, the attitude of “you should be happy I even showed up at your place at all”, another endearing quality. (the Hotel pointed out the room was full and the doors to the hot outside had been left open to admit the crowd)

It’s more likely it was Trump generating the hot air.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/442 "2016-07-28T02:11:30Z")

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Showing off a bit of the Spanish…

Huh/. Didn’t know that he is married to the daughter of a former Republican governor of VA.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/443 "2016-07-28T02:13:26Z")

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Kaine is sucking all of the energy out of the room.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/444 "2016-07-28T02:14:47Z")

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So far he has essentially recapitulated his first presentation speech in Miami. Pretty good for those who did not get to hear Saturday’s but he should bring something additional here.

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/445 "2016-07-28T02:17:07Z")

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He needs to move on from Virginia to what he will do elsewhere  
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**Author:** ![Yersenia\_Pestis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e495f1/32.png) [@Yersenia\_Pestis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yersenia_Pestis)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/446 "2016-07-28T02:20:38Z")

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Kinda hard to follow amazing speeches by Biden, panetta and (in his smirk way) Bloomberg…

Can’t wait to hear Obama

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/447 "2016-07-28T02:21:30Z")

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“Hillary and I are soul-mates.”

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/448 "2016-07-28T02:23:42Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> What was that chant?

> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> Not a clue

Well, when you find out, let us know.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/449 "2016-07-28T02:27:48Z")

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Is Kaine going to point at - and smirk at - every single person in the room? There’s something about the guy that I simply cannot stand, and I can’t imagine him a heartbeat away from the presidency. I hope Hillary survives alive and well throughout her two terms in office.

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**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/450 "2016-07-28T02:36:49Z")

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very happy Kaine mentioned Woodrow Wilson; its a nice FU to the campus crazies who tried to erase him from Princeton; that kind of stuff is what’s driven me rightward since 2008.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/451 "2016-07-28T02:38:17Z")

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OK he moved into the Trump-attack finally.  
Nice recapitulation of various historic figures.

Small observation: “listo/lista” though in one definition means “ready” in another common one means “street-smart” or wily or quick-witted, depending on the regional variant of Spanish you speak.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/452 "2016-07-28T02:39:45Z")

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Tim Kaine is so dopey lol

I get a kick out of having someone named “Tim” in the white house. I dunno. Ha.

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**Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/453 "2016-07-28T02:40:36Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> OK he moved into the Trump-attack finally.  
> Nice recapitulation of various historic figures.
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> Small observation: “listo/lista” though in one definition means “ready” in another common one means “street-smart” or wily or quick-witted, depending on the regional variant of Spanish you speak.

True, but even when it’s used to mean “smart,” it connotively echoes the more common meaning “ready.” Like Kaine said, the common denominator is “well prepared.”

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/454 "2016-07-28T02:40:51Z")

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Wilson had some good ideas on foreign policy but generally he was one of our most morally awful Presidents. A hardcore racist, a eugenicist, hated our Constitution openly and became a virtual dictator during WWI. He encouraged violence against critics of the war when he wasn’t jailing them.

> **[Hillsdale College Online Courses](https://online.hillsdale.edu/document.doc?id=318)**
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> Free courses taught by Hillsdale College faculty to pursue knowledge of the highest things, form character, and defend constitutional government.

No one should be written out of a party, as even the worst made their important contributions, but Wilson was a bastard even by the standards of the 1910s.

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**Author:** ![Yersenia\_Pestis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e495f1/32.png) [@Yersenia\_Pestis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yersenia_Pestis)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/455 "2016-07-28T02:41:02Z")

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By the way, anyone glimpsing at how crazy Fox News is covering this? Very select coverage of major speeches, none of the “lesser” speakers, none of the videos, wow what a (hate filled) crazy bubble!

A lot of crazy hacks blabbering and spinning (all right wingers of course)…

Ugh… Just wow… Never mind, not watching that channel again for the rest of the DNC

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**Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/456 "2016-07-28T02:42:12Z")

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I would hope the first time I made a speech, in a stadium or space that cavernous, I would do as well.

Having said that - Kaine looked seriously tied to the teleprompter. I would like to see how he did in a more impromptu setting. Seemed a bit stiff, not at ease in a space like that.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/457 "2016-07-28T02:43:32Z")

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All right… The Main Event of the night

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/458 "2016-07-28T02:45:31Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> Tim Kaine is so dopey lol
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> I get a kick out of having someone named “Tim” in the white house. I dunno. Ha.

I think he owns it pretty well - he even called himself “this goofy guy” in the speech. 😃

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/459 "2016-07-28T02:45:32Z")

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It’s 10:45pm. Enough filler. Bring on Obama. I got stuff to do.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/460 "2016-07-28T02:47:11Z")

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A nickel on low-key and sober.

(Yeah, I’m a wild man, risk taker…)

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