# The Democratic National Convention **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 17, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158 "2016-07-17T21:58:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/561 "2016-07-28T18:04:54Z")
I think the Republicans say that we should give tax rebates to the people who do not need it, which will result in us having more money. But that will not happen right away, so we have to borrow a bit[sup]\*[/sup] to get through to that point. _a_ billion here, a billion there, sooner or later you are talking\* real\* money\* ---
**Author:** ![fstbk1968](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3bc359/32.png) [@fstbk1968](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fstbk1968)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/562 "2016-07-28T18:38:00Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > This is an entirely non-partisan point: You should be very careful taking the literal word of an organization issuing a report that says that they should be paid more money. > > The American Society of Civil Engineers isn’t going to issue a report saying “Gosh, the place looks great. No reason to up the civil engineering budget!” As a civil engineer and a member of ASCE, your comments offend me. Engineers, like doctors and lawyers, are legally bound by a code of ethics. You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think our infrastructure is falling apart. PS, I apologize for the hijack. ---
**Author:** ![bardos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bardos/32/1069_2.png) [@bardos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bardos)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/563 "2016-07-28T18:54:20Z")
In order to win as many votes as possible, the latest from the Democrat Con is that they have totally revamped their platform. Condensing it into one line only: “Vote Hillary because Donald Trump is the Bogey Man”. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/564 "2016-07-28T19:07:06Z")
> [@bardos](#): > > In order to win as many votes as possible, the latest from the Democrat Con is that they have totally revamped their platform. Condensing it into one line only: “Vote Hillary because Donald Trump is the Bogey Man”. What’s the “Democrat Con”? Do you mean the Democratic Convention? ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/565 "2016-07-28T19:08:15Z")
[Conservatives Stunned by how much they liked Obama’s Speech](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/conservatives-grudgingly-praise-obama-dnc-speech) > [@](#): > > @EWErickson > I started the evening saying for the first time I thought Trump could win. Then Obama spoke. I’m so angry at my own party right now. > 10:48 PM - 27 Jul 2016 > [@](#): > > @AG\_Conservative > Still stunned. Feel like I’m in the twilight zone. Obama just defended America & conservative values from attacks by the Republican nominee. > 11:10 PM - 27 Jul 2016 > [@](#): > > @Timodc > Will a Trump apologist explain to me why an 18 yo watching the conventions would want to be a Republican? We’re giving away a generation > 10:41 PM - 27 Jul 2016 ---
**Author:** ![bardos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bardos/32/1069_2.png) [@bardos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bardos)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/566 "2016-07-28T19:09:39Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > What’s the “Democrat Con”? Do you mean the Democratic Convention? Yes, I misspoke. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/567 "2016-07-28T19:24:41Z")
We needed to do something, and we didn’t do it. Way back when we were talking stimulus. We had, and still have, a buttload of spending that needed to be done. Roads, bridges, dams, the whole shebang. We had idle workers, needed to be put to work. Concrete, steel, machinery, all of that wasn’t ever going to get cheaper, it was all at rock bottom. Borrowing money was possible at interest rates that could only go up, there was no down to go. It was the actual opposite of the perfect storm, the perfect opportunity. Was it “austerity” or “aww, stupidity”? It _was_ Republicans. We could have fixed what needed to be fixed, and started our economic machinery humming, and they would not do it because Obama, or socialism, or stupid. Now, that opportunity is passed, and the stuff _still_ needs fixing, plus, there’s more stuff, because we didn’t. So, now we still have to fix it, and theres more of it, and it will cost a lot more to do it. (R, Morons) ---
**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/568 "2016-07-28T19:39:46Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > And really, they don’t work that much. Between their 6-hour days with an hour for lunch, summer vacation, spring break, holidays off, vacation and personal days, it’s really just a part-time gig. They’re lucky we even give them benefits. You forgot my personal favorite line, that most teachers are women and their husbands are the ones actually paying the bills. Teaching is just a secondary income. I say that as a husband who earns almost twice as much as my wife, and she is in a non-education social services field. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/569 "2016-07-28T19:44:24Z")
> [@bardos](#): > > In order to win as many votes as possible, the latest from the Democrat Con is that they have totally revamped their platform. Condensing it into one line only: “Vote Hillary because Donald Trump is the Bogey Man”. Vote Hillary because Donald Trump is Humphrey Bogart? That doesn’t make a lick of sense. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/570 "2016-07-28T20:07:31Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > We needed to do something, and we didn’t do it. Way back when we were talking stimulus. We had, and still have, a buttload of spending that needed to be done. Roads, bridges, dams, the whole shebang. > > We had idle workers, needed to be put to work. Concrete, steel, machinery, all of that wasn’t ever going to get cheaper, it was all at rock bottom. Borrowing money was possible at interest rates that could only go up, there was no down to go. > > It was the actual opposite of the perfect storm, the perfect opportunity. Was it “austerity” or “aww, stupidity”? It _was_ Republicans. We could have fixed what needed to be fixed, and started our economic machinery humming, and they would not do it because Obama, or socialism, or stupid. > > Now, that opportunity is passed, and the stuff _still_ needs fixing, plus, there’s more stuff, because we didn’t. So, now we still have to fix it, and theres more of it, and it will cost a lot more to do it. > > (R, Morons) I agree with every word you wrote, **elucidator**. I was insane with frustration watching as Republicans employed every tactic in their arsenal to prevent the infrastructure spending practically begged for by the Obama Administration during the earliest years of his presidency, as he and his cabinet worked desperately to head off a global depression. Borrowing was never cheaper, infrastructure spending would have put millions of Americans back on the job fast doing work that not only must be done but will provide returns on our investment in the future many times over. They didn’t care. It was more important to make Obama look like a failure. The millions who suffered for their choices and the millions who still do… gaahhhh. But it still needs doing and will still be a tremendous investment, even if more costly – if Democrats can regain control of Congress. I reveled in Obama’s speech last night. I hope the day comes when he may be vindicated in full. Never has a president been so maligned on the basis of so little factual information. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/571 "2016-07-28T20:10:11Z")
California under Jerry Brown has been trying to build a high speed rail for years, despite the Republicans and their backers dragging their feet and kicking and screaming and putting as many roadblocks up as possible (anti-HSR votes, lawsuits, etc.) in its way. ---
**Author:** ![bardos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bardos/32/1069_2.png) [@bardos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bardos)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/572 "2016-07-28T20:41:07Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Vote Hillary because Donald Trump is Humphrey Bogart? That doesn’t make a lick of sense. Perhaps, if you took one more hit on your kabong, it might just come into focus. Then again, I could have been wrong. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/573 "2016-07-28T21:17:02Z")
> [@bardos](#): > > Perhaps, if you took one more hit on your kabong, it might just come into focus. Then again, I could have been wrong. Today’s youth: so out of touch with the wonders that Hanna-Barbera produced. ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/574 "2016-07-28T22:15:49Z")
Trump wants to build a giant wall. That’ll put people to work, I suppose. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/575 "2016-07-28T22:34:39Z")
Well, we can close this thread. It’s all over. Your next President will be Gary Johnson, because he just nabbed the coveted [Marvin Bush endorsement](http://washington.cbslocal.com/2016/07/27/marvin-bush-trump-clinton-libertarian/). ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/576 "2016-07-28T22:39:33Z")
> [@bardos](#): > > In order to win as many votes as possible, the latest from the Democrat Con is that they have totally revamped their platform. Condensing it into one line only: “Vote Hillary because Donald Trump is the Bogey Man”. Vote Hillary because Donald Trump is a lousy golfer? That doesn’t make a lick of sense. ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/577 "2016-07-28T23:04:40Z")
Right now, I joined the Bud Light party. The commercial was too catchy. Bud Light is good, moderate, and easier to swallow than the left and right. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/578 "2016-07-28T23:28:20Z")
Also, an excellent enhancement for making important decisions! Who knows how many Americans owe their very _existence_ to decisions made with beer! ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/579 "2016-07-28T23:30:59Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > Right now, I joined the Bud Light party. The commercial was too catchy. Bud Light is good, moderate, and easier to swallow than the left and right. I’d rather drink battery acid. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/580 "2016-07-28T23:41:42Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > Right now, I joined the Bud Light party. The commercial was too catchy. Bud Light is good, moderate, and easier to swallow than the left and right. > [@Chefguy](#): > > I’d rather drink battery acid. Obligatory John Oliver’s take down of Bud Light. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjN2BFf-AXs) > [@](#): > > If Budweiser is the king of beers then Bud Light is the feudal peasant covered in Donkey shit… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158.md?page=30)