# The Democratic National Convention

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 17, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158 "2016-07-17T21:58:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/601 "2016-07-29T01:27:57Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Mr. Khan offered Trump his copy of the Constitution and told him to go look at the headstones in Arlington.

That was one of the most powerful speeches I have ever heard.

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**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/602 "2016-07-29T01:28:36Z")

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Democrats are really playing with fire on Muslimism; its as if they’re completely not listening even to the Bill Mahers and Sam Harrises; those people are very different than the Pam Gellers and Robert Spencers, and they need to learn that.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/603 "2016-07-29T01:29:06Z")

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Is that a PLEDGE PIN??? On your uniFORM???  
🙂

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/604 "2016-07-29T01:30:09Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> That was one of the most powerful speeches I have ever heard.

Totally. “_You_ [Trump] have sacrificed _nothing._”

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/605 "2016-07-29T01:30:30Z")

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**Derek** , WTF are you talking about? Did you even listen to what was said?

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/606 "2016-07-29T01:35:10Z")

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They don’t care what is said, they only care wqho is saying it.

I just wish he’d concluded that speech by saying “God bless America” in _Arabic._

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/607 "2016-07-29T01:36:52Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> That was one of the most powerful speeches I have ever heard.

It was. It’s citizens like Khizr Khan I think about whenever Trump opens his nasty pie hole about what he intends to do about American Muslims. I am so pleased the convention has given them a voice to respond.

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**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/608 "2016-07-29T01:37:08Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Getting slapped around in the ratings department, [Trump is begging people](http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/28/media/democratic-convention-ratings-day-three/index.html) not to watch DNC tonight

I wasn’t planning on watching on the DNC tonight but after Trump told people to boycott it I am going to watch it ! Yeah Trump got the worst rating of all GOP conventions ! 🙂

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/609 "2016-07-29T01:38:29Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Totally. “_You_ [Trump] have sacrificed _nothing._”

It was made more powerful by the fact that he was completely unaffected, just a profoundly decent person standing up to evil.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/610 "2016-07-29T01:44:23Z")

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> [@DerekMichaels00](#):
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> Democrats are really playing with fire on Muslimism; its as if they’re completely not listening even to the Bill Mahers and Sam Harrises; those people are very different than the Pam Gellers and Robert Spencers, and they need to learn that.

Seriously?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/611 "2016-07-29T01:46:53Z")

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Muslimism?

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/612 "2016-07-29T01:49:26Z")

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> [@DerekMichaels00](#):
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> … its as if they’re completely not listening even to the Bill Mahers and Sam Harrises …

We aren’t.

Or rather we have listened and we have rejected it as being antithetical to what we believe is what makes this country great.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/613 "2016-07-29T01:51:51Z")

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> [@DerekMichaels00](#):
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> Democrats are really playing with fire on Muslimism; its as if they’re completely not listening even to the Bill Mahers and Sam Harrises; those people are very different than the Pam Gellers and Robert Spencers, and they need to learn that.

What are you talking about? What happened today, other than mentions like “God bless America”, that Maher or Harris would disapprove of?

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/614 "2016-07-29T01:53:26Z")

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> [@DerekMichaels00](#):
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> Democrats are really playing with fire on Muslimism; its as if they’re completely not listening even to the Bill Mahers and Sam Harrises; those people are very different than the Pam Gellers and Robert Spencers, and they need to learn that.

I know. Letting them show themselves as decent, honest people who love this country and everything it stands for, who are willing to serve in our military in defense of our country and and give their lives to save their fellow soldiers. Oh yeah, YUGE mistake.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/615 "2016-07-29T01:57:03Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> How should they address it? What should be done to bring jobs back to the United States, or to prevent them from leaving?

Already answered above, but again: Invest in Education and Infrastructure, taking on big national projects that states can’t do. Give tax breaks and allocate funding for Research and Development and Creative (Intellectual Property) fields.

And DerekMicheals00 “Muslimism” isn’t a word.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/616 "2016-07-29T01:58:57Z")

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The difference in ratings is surprising and bad news for the GOP. It’s a big difference, too, over twenty percent from what I’ve read. Eyeballs equals convinced voters. You never look better than you do at your convention.

I wonder if this pattern is typical… If the party to go second typically draws better?

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/617 "2016-07-29T01:59:10Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Muslimism?

A philosophy espoused by Muslimismatisters.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/618 "2016-07-29T02:00:21Z")

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Becerra’s speech would normally have been fine, but the contrast with other speaker was not particularly hard hitting.

KP seems to be having trouble with her earpiece.

…and now our marquee event for the night…

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**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/619 "2016-07-29T02:00:28Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> I know. Letting them show themselves as decent, honest people who love this country and everything it stands for, who are willing to serve in our military in defense of our country and and give their lives to save their fellow soldiers. Oh yeah, YUGE mistake.
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> :rolleyes:

people do need to let the Muslim world know, in explicit terms of “radical Islamic terrorism” that ideas that occur under the cloak of Islam will be noted, thus giving Muslims broadly incentive to reform that.

I have no doubt that there are decent Muslims who have US citizenship. But the hijab’s widespreadness, 43% of Muslim-American women, is far more than traditional dress for Jews (6%), and similar numbers for non-Christian religions), needs to be corrected. Diversity is nice, but unity is better. Integration is a sign of patriotism.

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**Author:** ![rock\_party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@rock\_party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rock_party)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/620 "2016-07-29T02:01:12Z")

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Some believe you have to show hate for Muslims to defeat ISIS.

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