# The Democratic National Convention

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 17, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158 "2016-07-17T21:58:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/721 "2016-07-29T03:36:07Z")

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She looks pretty hot in white

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/722 "2016-07-29T03:36:14Z")

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> [@leftfield6](#):
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> So they are getting a new candidate? Cause the one they have doesn’t seem that interested in actually talking about issues.

Well, Hillary didn’t exactly put forward a 10 point plan. She talked in generalities, too.

Brit Hume says that she gave a good speech, yet still has the problem of having a lecturing tone like you’ve just been called into the principal’s office. I agree.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/723 "2016-07-29T03:36:27Z")

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She’s seem to be in a daze for the first half of the speech. Mouthing the words that she previously memorized.

The second half had some really good moments especially when talking about Trump.

Not bad but Michelle, Barack, Biden, and her husband gave much better speeches.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/724 "2016-07-29T03:36:47Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> Aren’t we overdue for a Donald tweet?

Donnie asked his followers not to watch so as to drive the ratings down, so if he starts tweeting about things that were said tonight, he would show that he watched. Though he was campaigning in Iowa tonight.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/725 "2016-07-29T03:37:09Z")

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“And now… to the bar!”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/726 "2016-07-29T03:37:34Z")

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Heckuva speech. If I liked her better, I might have been inspired, but maybe that isn’t her fault. Maybe. Possible.

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/727 "2016-07-29T03:37:42Z")

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Every convention should have beach balls. So much more fun than just balloons.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/728 "2016-07-29T03:38:16Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> “And now… to the bar!”

Already there. 🙂

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/729 "2016-07-29T03:39:02Z")

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I hope all of those balloons were not made in China!

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/730 "2016-07-29T03:39:40Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> Well, Hillary didn’t exactly put forward a 10 point plan. She talked in generalities, too.

It becomes a relative thing - compared to the other guy’s simple assurance on every item that “I’ll fix that,believe me, it’ll be so great”, this looked elaborate.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/731 "2016-07-29T03:40:31Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> A+ for content. B- for delivery.

I grade it B-, B-. Performance was actually better than her usual, and she made lots of good arguments, but she just can’t resist lying. We know she supports TPP, we know she won’t get tough with China(that promise has been made at every Democratic convention since 1992 when her husband first made it), and this idea that she’ll pay for all her promises without taxing average Americans more is pure fantasy. Forget Republicans, the CBO is going to kill her agenda dead.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/732 "2016-07-29T03:40:31Z")

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Betting the ratings are still going to blow away the Donald’s.

He even feels the need to measure his e-peen with Nielsen ratings…guess he’s gonna come up…errm…short.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/733 "2016-07-29T03:40:59Z")

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NPR has a transcript of the speech with annotations and fact checking. It’s obviously still a work in progress at this point.

> **[FACT CHECK: Hillary Clinton's Speech To The Democratic Convention, Annotated](https://www.npr.org/2016/07/28/487817725/fact-check-hillary-clintons-speech-to-the-democratic-convention-annotated)**
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> NPR's politics team has annotated Clinton's speech, providing analysis and context and fact-checking key portions.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/734 "2016-07-29T03:41:19Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Heckuva speech. If I liked her better, I might have been inspired, but maybe that isn’t her fault. Maybe. Possible.

My sister, who was a Bernie supporter, said tonight that she might wind up voting for Hillary after the speech tonight.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/735 "2016-07-29T03:41:33Z")

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Who the fuck is _this_ guy, a professional killjoy? Is this like the last act in Vaudeville, deliberately bad to drive everybody out before the next revue?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/736 "2016-07-29T03:41:35Z")

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Now we get to see how effective her speech was in the way that actually matters. Will she see her poll numbers improve? Trump didn’t just get a bounce. Voters actually trust him and like him more since the convention. Be interesting to see if Clinton sees a similar effect.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/737 "2016-07-29T03:42:28Z")

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I thought it was a decent speech, but I like Hillary’s delivery – she tries really, really hard, even though she doesn’t have much natural oratory talent.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/738 "2016-07-29T03:45:05Z")

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Good lord, Ultravires. The ball-busting wife? The mean principal who calls you in when you’re in trouble? Are there any other SCAAAARY stereotypes of powerful women you want to add to the heap? What about domineering mother? What about scolding mother-in-law? You wanna use those?

I mean, I’m not saying you’re wrong; Trump is doubtless going to play the misogyny angle for all it’s worth. But you don’t have to give him a helping hand here.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/739 "2016-07-29T03:45:08Z")

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LOL…“God help me…Reaganized way…”

Oh, for those not watching CNN, that was Begala.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/740 "2016-07-29T03:45:20Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Sorry - I have to get this out, as I’ve seen this all over any Hillary thread.
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> TWO "L"s in HILLARY. TWO.
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> Don’t know why it’s bugging me so, but it does.

And if you forget, just remember: _Trudge up the hill with Hillary_. (Thanks, Obama)

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