# The Democratic National Convention **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 17, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158 "2016-07-17T21:58:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/761 "2016-07-29T04:12:46Z")
I thought she did great! She’s not a natural orator, but she did what she needed to do. I was impressed, frankly. It felt good listening and seeing her as our next president. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/762 "2016-07-29T04:13:34Z")
> [@fstbk1968](#): > > As a civil engineer and a member of ASCE, your comments offend me. Engineers, like doctors and lawyers, are legally bound by a code of ethics. You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think our infrastructure is falling apart. I do not mean to offend, but human nature it what it is. Bias is inherent in issuing a report that calls for one’s own financial gain, even if that bias might be inadvertent. My industry is also bound by laws and code of ethics, which we take very seriously. But if we issued a report suing “there isn’t enough money paid to us” you would be correct to take that with a grain of salt. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/763 "2016-07-29T04:16:13Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > I thought she did great! She’s not a natural orator, but she did what she needed to do. I was impressed, frankly. It felt good listening and seeing her as our next president. This. She isn’t a natural orator, but she got the job done. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/764 "2016-07-29T04:16:27Z")
PA poll taken during first 2 days of DNC had Hillary up by 9 in the State. > **[Suffolk poll: Hillary pulls ahead of Trump in Pa.](https://www.inquirer.com/philly/blogs/big_tent/Suffolk-poll-Hillary-pulls-ahead-of-Trump-in-PA.html)** > > A poll released Thursday showed Hillary Clinton with a solid lead over Donald Trump among likely Pennsylvania voters, potential cheering news for the Democrats as Clinton prepared to accept her historic nomination at the national convention. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/765 "2016-07-29T04:17:03Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > After watching Trump for the last few months I actually like seeing traditional politicians at the convention, especially Clinton. > > Not very exciting or inspiring, but at least stable and competent. Yes; I’ll take ‘stable and competent’ any day over the Arkham Asylum Inmates Drama Club Show that the Republicans have been putting on lately. Setting aside the relatively progressive agenda, the Democrats, IMO, did a much better Republican convention than the actual Republicans did. Of course, it’s all for naught with the R base, because they are firmly convinced that Hitlery is a lying liar who has somehow, inexplicably, avoiding being indicted for treason only by the skin of her vampire-like teeth and who knows what nefarious back-room deals she and her Machiavellian husband have worked out (sigh). As far as her speech went, I kinda felt it started off a bit too platitudinous for my taste, but when she got onto actual policy (and the glaring contrast with Trumps’ nearly complete lack of specifics) she did much better. Money quote of the night, as others have noted: the line about Trump being easily baited with a tweet, although to be fair, it seems like Trump is more often the one who does the tweet-baiting. Anyway, that’s enough of that. Someone wake me on the morning of the first Tuesday in November. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/766 "2016-07-29T04:18:22Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > No, we won’t. Trump will weasel out rather than be humiliated. Donald Trump does not for one instant think he will be humiliated. He believes he can beat Hillary Clinton in a debate. Whether he can or not isn’t relevant. There’s no way in hell he turns down a free chance to gloat, preen, and bluster before a live nationwide audience. Not a chance in hell. And that’s not even getting into the fact that skipping the debates could be horribly costly in the polls. They’re already set; he has no way to avoid them without looking like a chicken. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/767 "2016-07-29T04:18:32Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I too! > > But not $500… Me 3 (also a lesser amount)! ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/768 "2016-07-29T04:23:03Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > It’s not misogyny. There is a way for everyone, men and women, to show force and strength without being overbearing. Trump is overbearing, but it works well-enough for him. > > To the extent there is a stereotype, Hillary plays right into it. Since you are not saying I am wrong, maybe powerful women can learn from it and refrain from doing this sort of stuff. This is a lesson powerful women need to learn, but not powerful men? Why do you think this is a gendered issue? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/769 "2016-07-29T04:24:18Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > I hope all of those balloons were not made in China! Well, I’m pretty sure they’re filled with American air, so there’s that. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/770 "2016-07-29T04:29:37Z")
Apropos of nothing, Megyn Kelly spent the night re-tweeting Hillary’s and Chelsea’s speeches, without comment… except for one: “Whereupon a woman, a mother, walked out on stage, hugged her daughter and accepted a Presidential nomination.” People are going apeshit, of course. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/771 "2016-07-29T04:32:24Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > People are going apeshit, of course. Hopefully Cheetoface is outraged. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/772 "2016-07-29T04:33:32Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > So on MSNBC they just interviewed “Congressman Sean Maloney and his husband Randy.” > > First, I really love how matter-of-factly it was said. > > Second - Hi there fellas! And I love the fact that after the red, white and blue balloons started coming down, they were joined by lavender ones. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/773 "2016-07-29T04:35:01Z")
I gotta wonder how Kirkpatrick took to the repetitive kind words said about McCain and his heroism. Yeah, clear why they were said, but y’know while he was a war hero he’s been a bit of spineless spittle dealing with Trump. And he needs to go. ---
**Author:** ![Club\_33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Club\_33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Club_33)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/774 "2016-07-29T04:36:18Z")
One of my favorite lines was when she reminded that she is far more comfortable with the “service” part of “public service,” than the “public” part. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/775 "2016-07-29T06:32:12Z")
Her hair isn’t really blonde, but neither is Trump’s, she just does it a lot better. Maybe she should offer Trump some tips as a friendly gesture. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/776 "2016-07-29T06:42:01Z")
If this convention doesn’t send Clinton/Kaine out of Philly with a \*serious \*head of steam, then I don’t know anything about politics any more. What a week! So awesome. (Will anyone else admit to having tears streaming down their face in the emotion of the moment?) > [@Shoeless](#): > > LOL, I was listening to that speech in my car and couldn’t stop laughing, that guy was so hard-core. I expected him to finish with “Now drop and give me 20!” I can’t believe there isn’t more commentary on General Allen here. I initially heard it on the radio as well and had my mind blown, then went back to watch the video later. I thought he was absolutely fucking **awesome**. I mean, I have never had the slightest desire to join the military (quite the opposite, in fact), but this guy had me completely mesmerized. If he shouted through the radio at me to MARCH! I would have followed him into battle, to hell and back, for reals. And I wasn’t the only one he had this inspiring effect on. David Corn, the progressive writer formerly of The Nation and now at Mother Jones, tweeted the following three thoughts about Allen: > > [@](#): > > I am ready to sign up and storm Normandy. #DemsInPhilly > > [@](#): > > Imagine if Ret. General John Allen was HRC’s vice presidential pick. Game over. #DemsInPhilly > > [@](#): > > Can’t wait to see @realDonaldTrump tweet about Ret. Gen. Allen. #DemsInPhilly > [@davidm](#): > > Go Kareem! Good Trump joke. Yes, that was a sick burn. > [@silenus](#): > > No, we won’t. Trump will weasel out rather than be humiliated. I give you about a 40% chance of being right. Which is still crazy high, of course. > [@psychobunny](#): > > However-major fail on the card trick. Any idea what it was supposed to say? I don’t know, but if this were North Korea, a lot of people would be getting executed tonight. (Seriously, they are like the [world champs](https://youtu.be/0kmxTy5L7Rc?t=99) at that stuff.) > [@Chefguy](#): > > Well, I just donated $500 to her campaign, so that’s a start. Kudos! I give her $2 every so often. (It’s all I can afford, and I figure it helps her get her average down a little closer to Bernie territory.) > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > What are you talking about? What happened today, other than mentions like “God bless America”, that Maher or Harris would disapprove of? FWIW, I’m a \*yuuuge \*Maher/Harris fan, and I don’t agree with \*\*Derek \*\*on this one. I thought that was highly effective politically. (Maybe it would have been nice if his wife got to talk though…just sayin’.) ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/777 "2016-07-29T06:54:32Z")
From what I’ve read, it really sounds like this convention has fired up a good number of the Democratic base, which is probably its most important goal besides the nomination business. I wonder if the Republican/Trump base experienced anything similar with the Republican convention? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/778 "2016-07-29T10:17:21Z")
She did an amazing Kate McKinnon impersonation. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/779 "2016-07-29T11:26:09Z")
Make sure you see the speech of the Muslim father whose son died in Iraq. A major highlight. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/780 "2016-07-29T12:16:19Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > This is a lesson powerful women need to learn, but not powerful men? Why do you think this is a gendered issue? If I may support UltraVires for a moment, I think what’s he (or she) is saying is that is IS a gendered issue, not that it _should_ be. Women have it harder than men, in a lot of ways. One of the ways they have it harder is that a man displaying strength and dominance is more likely to be viewed positively than a woman displaying strength and dominance. Why that is deserves a thread of its own, but it is so. It sucks and it’s not fair, but the unfairness of it is something Clinton must deal with in her quest to be elected President. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158.md?page=38) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158.md?page=40)