# The Democratic National Convention **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 17, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158 "2016-07-17T21:58:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 42
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/821 "2016-07-29T18:41:31Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > _expletive_ I can’t find it now and it may be gone (if I was his keeper, I’d have deleted it too). It was posted exactly when Hillary was speaking & it definitely contained the words “vaccine” and “autism” > > I Knew I should have book marked it or taken screen shot of it… Trump was at a campaign rally in Iowa while Hillary was speaking. [Ann Coulter mocks Khizr Khan as “An angry Muslim with a thick accent like Fareed Zacaria.”](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/07/29/ann-coulter-mocks-slain-soldiers-dad-simply-for-being-muslim/) ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/822 "2016-07-29T19:40:01Z")
Wow stay classy Ann. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/823 "2016-07-29T20:20:29Z")
I’m very close to convinced that Coulter is more a less a troll who sells books and appearances by saying the most outrageous thing that she can think of, regardless of whether or not she actually believes any of it. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/824 "2016-07-29T20:41:37Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > We women must learn to modulate our tone, i guess? So that our audience doesn’t think of being sent to the principal’s office. > > It does suck that a woman displaying power and strength is written off. How can women fix themselves so that doesn’t occur? Apropos of this. From another thread, reply to a post wherein Hillary was called “shrill”: > [@Now that the conventions are over let's discuss Clinton vs. Trump campaigns](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-the-conventions-are-over-lets-discuss-clinton-vs-trump-campaigns/761206/18): > > Disagree. I think anytime a female makes her voice heard people immediately label her a Harpy. Pelosi… harpy, Fiorina… harpy, Warren… harpy. Clinton to me is far from “shrill”. It’s just a female voice. Get over it. > \… ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/825 "2016-07-29T21:08:21Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > In the face of ratings loss to DNC, Trump is [telling NYT](https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/759008917707853824): “I didn’t produce our show. I just showed up for final speech”. Wotta weasel. > [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Likewise, consider Sarah Palin: I know the SDMB – and America! – rolls a lot of eyes at the _content_ of her speeches, but I don’t recall her getting criticized for the sound of her voice; she occasionally switches to an upbeat and jokey tone for effect, but then goes back to talking like a TV news anchor when she’s not simply being conversational. You must not know the same people I do. I know lots of people, including myself, who finds her voice nails on a chalkboard. She seems to have an extreme version of the Northern Cities Vowel Shift, which I find abrasive. And curious in her case, since she has never lived in that region as far as I know. > [@Chefguy](#): > > My wife donated the same as I did. But there is always donation in kind: volunteer, man the phones, do the door knocking, register voters. We’ll be doing that as well, as we are both committed to making sure that that morally and ethically bankrupt vulgarian never gets within sniffing distance of the presidency. Agreed. I do this every two years anyway, but I’m certainly not going to stop now. > [@davidm](#): > > I’m very close to convinced that Coulter is more a less a troll who sells books and appearances by saying the most outrageous thing that she can think of, regardless of whether or not she actually believes any of it. I have been 100% convinced of this for many years, which is why I try not to rise to the bait. In her salad days, she also tried to trade on being an allegedly “hot” blonde as well. > [@RickJay](#): > > But we don’t really have an example that I can think of - not in my time, anyway - where one convention was really well done and the other was a zeppelin crash. So well put! David Brooks talks about this in his column today, although he also speculates that the country may have changed such that it doesn’t matter. If so, I will be sad–but I will still be proud of Democrats for doing such an awesome job one last time by the old rules. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/826 "2016-07-29T21:38:44Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > You must not know the same people I do. I know lots of people, including myself, who finds her voice nails on a chalkboard. She seems to have an extreme version of the Northern Cities Vowel Shift, which I find abrasive. Huh. Well, I guess I won’t say it going forward – but, no, I don’t recall having heard that before. (I’ve heard people who vote for Hillary Clinton express dislike for _her_ voice, but I don’t remember folks who voted _against_ Sarah Palin saying the same.) ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/827 "2016-07-29T22:11:46Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > I’m very close to convinced that Coulter is more a less a troll who sells books and appearances by saying the most outrageous thing that she can think of, regardless of whether or not she actually believes any of it. Believe it. And Trump does the exact same thing. Sure he’s a bigot, but he would recommend ending the border patrol and taking _all_ the Syrian refugees if he thought he could win the election that way. Troll. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/828 "2016-07-29T23:15:28Z")
On the voice thing, to me both Palin’s and Clinton’s voices sound fine conversationally, or when addressing a small-to-medium room or quiet audience. It’s when they try to “project” for a large or noisy venue, in front of the TV camera, that my ear protests (some times, not always). ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/829 "2016-07-30T00:20:17Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Huh. Well, I guess I won’t say it going forward – but, no, I don’t recall having heard that before. (I’ve heard people who vote for Hillary Clinton express dislike for _her_ voice, but I don’t remember folks who voted _against_ Sarah Palin saying the same.) I think that, with Palin, they’re so put off by the content that they never get around to complaining about her voice. That’s true for me at least. As irritating as her delivery is, it’s a distant second to the content. And just so no one thinks that it’s a gender thing for me, I think Michelle Obama is a good speaker. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/830 "2016-07-30T00:46:51Z")
I’m watching Hillary talking right now in a campaign stop in Harrisburg. It looks like a relatively small room. I think she sounds more natural. Her voice is extremely hoarse right now, but that’s understandable. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/831 "2016-07-30T02:21:03Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Also, an excellent enhancement for making important decisions! Who knows how many Americans owe their very _existence_ to decisions made with beer! “Here’s to alcohol: the cause of, and solution to, all of life’s problems.” - Homer Simpson > [@raventhief](#): > > Mr. Khan offered Trump his copy of the Constitution and told him to go look at the headstones in Arlington. Powerful stuff. > [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Is god narrating Hillary’s intro video? Awesome… I would be happy to listen to Morgan Freeman read his shopping list. > [@JRDelirious](#): > > Yes, good content, solid writing, strong delivery BUT not displaying the preacher chops of later-stage Obama or the yarn-spinner gift of Joe Biden or Bill. Not being a “superstar” on the stage yet. A fair summation. > [@leftfield6](#): > > 70-odd minutes, and I do mean odd. > > Good zinger Loved it! > [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > …Luckily, press conferences are delivered in a conversational tone. Closer to a townhall meeting. Unfortunately, as NPR noted last night, Hillary hasn’t had an actual press conference in 200+ days. Although he says stupid/offensive/wrong things when he does, at least Trump is more accessible to reporters. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/832 "2016-07-30T02:36:43Z")
> [@](#): > > Section 2. Nothing contained in this article shall be construed to abridge the freedom of the press. This clause nullifies everything else in the amendment. Freedom of the press is constitutional right being exercised whenever you run an ad. While we’re so busy condemning Donald Trump for being an ignoramus, someone might want to fight some ignorance among Democrats in Congress and explain to them what a press is and what freedom of the press involves. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/833 "2016-07-30T02:49:00Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > This clause nullifies everything else in the amendment. Freedom of the press is constitutional right being exercised whenever you run an ad. > > While we’re so busy condemning Donald Trump for being an ignoramus, someone might want to fight some ignorance among Democrats in Congress and explain to them what a press is and what freedom of the press involves. Perhaps, to save time, they could simultaneously explain it to the four members of the Supreme Court who disagree? Since after all it’s an issue of simple ignorance, not an honest difference of interpretation, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/834 "2016-07-30T03:14:31Z")
So has there been a post-convention bounce for Hillary yet, or is it still too soon? I’ve not seen anything in the news. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/835 "2016-07-30T03:20:38Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > So has there been a post-convention bounce for Hillary yet, or is it still too soon? I’ve not seen anything in the news. [Reuters shows a bounce.](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKCN1092M5) ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/836 "2016-07-30T03:22:01Z")
Yay! Go Hillary! But this leads me to wonder if there’s an inherent advantage to whichever party holds its convention last. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/837 "2016-07-30T03:27:35Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Yay! Go Hillary! > > But this leads me to wonder if there’s an inherent advantage to whichever party holds its convention last. I think they alternate every four years. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/838 "2016-07-30T03:44:43Z")
Russia is apparently attacking DNC and Hillary’s servers. Shit is gettin real! What if, the Russians attack ballot boxes on election day and the electoral college vote is decided by a state or two? We could have a Constitutional crisis…which is what Vladimir Putin wants. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/839 "2016-07-30T03:48:04Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > So has there been a post-convention bounce for Hillary yet, or is it still too soon? I’ve not seen anything in the news. Check 538 around next Thursday. You need some post convention polls, more than one or two. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/840 "2016-07-30T03:48:22Z")
Wouldn’t that just be the reason that Obama declares Martial Law and stays in office? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158.md?page=41) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158.md?page=43)