# The Democratic National Convention **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 17, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158 "2016-07-17T21:58:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/861 "2016-08-02T19:56:17Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Because printing presses and books and flyers and movies cost money to make, so you basically repeal freedom of the press. > If you’re referring only to donations, then money is already not speech. Donation of money can be restricted and is restricted. Soft money was banned in 2001 and is still illegal. Hard money is limited to what, $2000? But you can use your own money to buy ad time, or pool ad money from many other people, and Congress can’t touch that. Yes, of course I was referring to donations rather than to the book, movie, or flyer (!) businesses. Left Hand of Dorkness gave you an excellent answer, but I’ll add: it was more than a little disingenuous of you to leave out the fact that PACs have NO limitation on the amount they may spend. Yeah, so long as they “don’t coordinate” with a candidate or party. Depending on that provision to be rigorously enforced would seem to be rather foolhardy. Our current state of affairs post-\*Citizens United v. FEC \*is that those with the gold make the rules, so to speak, via their “speech” in the form of as many millions of dollars as they need to spend in order to effectively drown out dissent. Many of us see that as something short of ideal. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/862 "2016-08-02T20:10:14Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Not that I disagree with you, but where has this been said repeatedly? ISTR seeing it somewhere early on in this thread. Also, possibly in the RNC thread, and one or two others in **Elections**. This is the site/forum for fighting ignorance, so someone who knows stuff usually says the stuff they know. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2016, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/863 "2016-08-06T05:55:53Z")
I’m over a week late to the party, but I’ve just been watching some excerpts on YouTube. When [Elizabeth Warren addressed the DNC](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDfUeM7nkbA) she seemed to get relatively little applause but was heckled with “We trusted you … We trusted you …” I thought the convention hall was mostly filled with delegates. What gives? Were some fifth-graders admitted on a school field trip? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2016, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/864 "2016-08-06T06:17:09Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I thought the convention hall was mostly filled with delegates. What gives? Those _were_ delegates. That’s why they couldn’t get rid of them. A small number were Bernie truthers. After Bernie Sanders spoke, I saw one of his delegates on TV complaining that it was so unfair that he had to speak last. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2016, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/865 "2016-08-06T06:22:13Z")
It was a small contingent of bitter Sanders delegates, largely from California according to the news shows I watched. They heckled/chanted during several of the speeches throughout the week. You would often hear the rest of the delegates over-shout them with “Hillary! Hillary!” ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2016, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158/866 "2016-08-06T07:55:03Z")
Sheeeesh. Trump is back up to 24% chance; we’re hardly out of the woods yet. The bitter angry aging white man is a dying demographic. So it would be a tragic shame if Trump were elected by some insipid Bernie-crazed Millennial brats. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democratic-national-convention/760158.md?page=43)