# The Democrats Emergency Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 5, 2019, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006 "2019-11-05T01:12:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006/21 "2019-11-05T02:44:13Z")
Gore-Kerry 2020. “You voted for EACH of us, now you can vote for BOTH of us.” ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006/22 "2019-11-05T03:23:22Z")
> [@steatopygia](#): > > Elizabeth Warren is 70 YO. And in my opinion, too old. Then you should vote for Trump. Right? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006/23 "2019-11-05T03:29:36Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Is there anyone else out there we could nominate? I’d like to submit Hillary Clinton’s name for your consideration. After all, she “won” once already. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006/24 "2019-11-05T03:43:29Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > What I can tell you is that if Warren (or Sanders) is the nominee, there will be an avalanche of effort to undermine her candidacy. There will be a massive effort to undermine the candidacy of _any_ Democratic nominee. That’s how political campaigns work. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006/25 "2019-11-05T03:49:44Z")
> [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](#): > > Then you should vote for Trump. Right? We were discussing the viability of democratic candidates. You know, like pointing out differences among them and what makes them more or less electable. Excellent post. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006/26 "2019-11-05T03:59:18Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > What I can tell you is that if Warren (or Sanders) is the nominee, there will be an avalanche of effort to undermine her candidacy. The big business crowd that laments Trump’s trade policies will hold fire on Trump and turn their aim on Warren, who promises to be their nemesis. And you think they won’t undermine every other possible Democratic nominee? Name one, just one, who won’t suffer this fate. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Colossus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.colossus/32/9423_2.png) [@Dr.Colossus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Colossus)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006/27 "2019-11-05T04:32:36Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > And you think they won’t undermine every other possible Democratic nominee? > > Name one, just one, who won’t suffer this fate. asahi is in a sweaty panic because there’s no far-right republican who democrats love. [The op] is irrational politically and out of touch when it comes to the facts that the electorate plug into when they make a decision. As far as I can tell, they only think a Trump replacement who republicans love more than Trump who also democrats love is the only viable candidate. It’s literally no one who exists, and no one who exists could apparently, possibly beat Trump. Certainly no one running as a Dem. There’s literally not a human being perfect enough who everyone loves that will make (OP) chill out and trust the voters. I wish I had more pearls to loan for clutching. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006/28 "2019-11-05T04:57:34Z")
A good baseball team should have a sturdy warrior in the bullpen, ready to mount the mound if things turn bleak. In 2016 we had the opportunity to send in Biden when Clinton faltered (and many thought we should have asked the cigar-smokers to so intervene). Sure Biden would have been almost 74 years old on Election Day 2016, and older than even Reagan was at _re_-election, but 74 is the new 72. But who do the Democrats have in the bullpen now? Not someone like Hickenlooper or Inslee — they’ve been “repudiated” already in this pre-primary season. Landrieu? Nowhere near the name recognition of a ฺBiden. I agree with OP. D’s are now choosing between Warren — perceived by many as too leftist and too shrill — and Biden, an old inarticulate man whose alleged crimes the GOP will try to make the focus of the impeachment debate. The other front-runners, Sanders and Buttigieg, might be even more flawed. The economy is likely to keep its chin up for 12 months. Impeachment may strengthen Trump. Severe flaws in the D candidate will become increasingly apparent. Next summer we may watch in horror as polls in Pennsylvania suggest a repeat of 2016 … and, however desperate, _the Ds will have no sturdy warrior in the bullpen ready to be sent in._ ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006/29 "2019-11-05T05:15:44Z")
Why isn’t anyone paying attention to Steve Bullock? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006/30 "2019-11-05T06:02:13Z")
If you _want_ liberals to sit out the election and let Trump coast to a second term, then by all means replace one of the candidates voters are actually enthusiastic about with a milquetoast centrist who’s campaigned and failed in the past. I mean, it worked so well for Presidents Kerry, McCain, and Romney. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006/31 "2019-11-05T06:41:46Z")
…the “emergency” was in 2015 when Trump formerly announced his run for the Presidency. People were yelling and screaming about voter suppression, about the weaponization of social media, they were ignored. This isn’t an “emergency” now. We are in the endgame. The chess pieces are all in position. We are on the express train to 2020, no stopping until the next election. The perfect candidate doesn’t exist. Nobody is coming to save you. The primary process is going to happen. A candidate (almost certainly one of the names that you listed) is going to be chosen to go up against Trump. That’s just where we are at. Just accept it. The only people that would have a hope-in-heck of grabbing a nomination would be a celebrity: Oprah, Tom Hanks, The Rock, Jon Stewart, someone with name-recognition, star-power and can at least string a few sentences together. I very much doubt it could work, however there really isn’t anyone else IMHO that would be able to step in at this late stage. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006/32 "2019-11-05T07:22:57Z")
How do you like the sound of “President Colbert”? It would begin as one of his farcical larks, but suddenly everyone would realize that the voters had become serious about him. He would protest and demur, but the process would railroad genuine humor into the Whitehouse, and we might all finally discover what the man himself is really like. ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006/33 "2019-11-05T07:47:26Z")
Or president Tom Hanks. He just looks like the president. Put him against Trump in the debates and it would look like a contrast between the president and an obvious supervillain. ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006/34 "2019-11-05T08:33:50Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > too gay\* > [@Lamoral](#): > > I do not think being gay is a big liability. This isn’t 1992, it’s not even 2002. Being gay is WAY more accepted than it’s ever been. A president often appears with the First Lady , holding hands and kissing-- at the convention, during the campaign,dancing together at the inaugural ball,etc. Serious question: does Buttigieg have a partner? After seeing them holding hands and kissing in public, some people (a lot of people, actually) are going to have a problem voting for him. Remember, many people vote mostly by their gut-level feelings. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006/35 "2019-11-05T09:27:09Z")
I think what ANY dem should fear is Romney 2020. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006/36 "2019-11-05T09:32:45Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > A president often appears with the First Lady , holding hands and kissing-- at the convention, during the campaign,dancing together at the inaugural ball,etc. > > Serious question: does Buttigieg have a partner? > After seeing them holding hands and kissing in public, some people (a lot of people, actually) are going to have a problem voting for him. > > Remember, many people vote mostly by their gut-level feelings. He is married to Chasten Glezman. > **[Pete Buttigieg | Personal life](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Buttigieg#Personal_life)** > > Buttigieg is a Christian, and he has said his faith has had a strong influence in his life. He was baptized in the Catholic Church as an infant and he attended Catholic schools. While at the University of Oxford, Buttigieg began to attend Christ Church Cathedral and said he felt "more-or-less Anglican" by the time he returned to South Bend. St. Augustine, James Martin, and Garry Wills are among his religious influences. A member of the Episcopal Church, But Through his mother, he is the 4th Great... ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006/37 "2019-11-05T10:07:14Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I think what ANY dem should fear is Romney 2020. If Romney wants to run next year, he’s going to need to get started about eight months ago. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006/38 "2019-11-05T10:22:57Z")
There is one (and probably only one) person who could be drafted in an emergency and be favored to win the brass ring: … _ **Michelle Obama** _. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006/39 "2019-11-05T11:01:47Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Let’s face facts: as things right now, the Democrats are in danger of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Biden is too old. Warren and Sanders are too radical. Castro, Booker, and Harris are too identity-ish. Klobuchar too bland. Buttigieg too gay\*. > > … It’s way too early to panic like that. Hell, before long Trump is liable to take some hostages and end up in a barricade situation. Even today’s senate Republicans would have to seriously consider not supporting him in that endeavor. And the American people, stacked as the deck is for Republicans, might just speak out against it. I’m still cautiously hopeful. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006/40 "2019-11-05T11:16:17Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > There is one (and probably only one) person who could be drafted in an emergency and be favored to win the brass ring: … _ **Michelle Obama** _. _…Why?_ She has never held elected office or any government office and has never shown any interest in running for office. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-democrats-emergency-thread/843006.md?page=3)