# The Dems will sweep into power in both the House and the Senate as well as the Presidency **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 10, 2016, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482 "2016-05-10T13:09:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/21 "2016-05-10T15:52:18Z")
I can’t help but wonder what the election would’ve looked like between Obama and Trump. Reagan-like electoral votes? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/22 "2016-05-10T16:15:45Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > The press has not even begun to unload on Trump. > > … CNN always seems to find a picture of Trump to use that makes him look like a raving mad man. I wonder if it’s intentional or if Trump actually is a raving mad man? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/23 "2016-05-10T16:20:41Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Somehow, \*Mighty Hilary \*at the Bat doesn’t have the same punch to it. But _Mighty Donald_ does. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/24 "2016-05-10T16:23:01Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I’d say an act of Radical Islamic Terrorism shortly before the election. > > (The phrase “Radical Islamic Terrorism” will be used by only one of the parties.) Perhaps, but it’s not like Donald has any edge over Hillary when it comes to mindless warhawkery. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/25 "2016-05-10T16:24:31Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > It’s too early to make such a prediction. I think the Democrats have the advantage right now for the Presidency and Senate (and the polling, in aggregate, along with the betting markets, seem to agree), but I wouldn’t bet a significant amount this early. As for the House, maybe the Democrats have improved their chances, but they were pretty low to begin with, and I don’t know if even an electoral landslide loss would be enough for the GOP to lose the House as well. I agree. The Senate is definitely in play, but it would take a strange scenario indeed for the House to Democratic. As for Trump and how he’ll do… as someone who swore up and down that there was no chance he’d be the Republican nominee, I decline to make further predictions about him. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/26 "2016-05-10T16:30:17Z")
“I am not a member of any organized party. I am a Democrat.” That’s been true for 100 years. Ordinarily I wouldn’t put it past the Dems to botch a sure thing. But the Cubs, man. Look at the Cubs! This is the year of the meteor. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/27 "2016-05-10T16:35:58Z")
It used to be that the Democrats never missed a chance to miss a chance, but I think the GOP has them beaten at that skill by a long shot these days. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/28 "2016-05-10T16:41:58Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > The latest polls show Trump and Clinton to be effectively tied in the swing states of FL, PA, and OH. > > [http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-clinton-florida-ohio-pennsylvania-222994](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-clinton-florida-ohio-pennsylvania-222994) From the article you linked: > [@](#): > > At roughly the same point in 2012, President Barack Obama led Mitt Romney by single digits in Ohio and in Pennsylvania, while Romney led by 1 percentage point in Florida. (Obama ended up winning all three, all by single digits.) Four years earlier, eventual Democratic nominee Obama trailed Arizona Sen. John McCain by 1 point each in Florida and Ohio, but led by 9 points in Pennsylvania. (Obama also won all three states in November, winning Florida and Ohio by single digits and Pennsylvania by 10 points. IOW, in 2012 Obama and Romeny were effectively tied in the same states at this point and in 2008 Obama and McCain were effectively tied in two of those same states at this point. So not really that big of a deal. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/29 "2016-05-10T16:52:17Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > All the players (Democrats, Republicans, the media) are going to make the race look tighter than it really is. > [@D\_Anconia](#): > > The latest polls show Trump and Clinton to be effectively tied in the swing states of FL, PA, and OH. Nice, D’Anconia, right out of the gate! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/30 "2016-05-10T17:09:14Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Perhaps, but it’s not like Donald has any edge over Hillary when it comes to mindless warhawkery. I’m not especially interested in mindless warhawkery. I’m wondering what happens if Trump says his _general_ Ban-All-Muslims-From-Entering policy – which is surprisingly popular even now – would’ve stopped these _particular_ Radical Islamic Terrorists from coming here and doing that. Sure, he then talks about killing their families or turning sand radioactive or whatever. But even aside from pound-of-cure warhawkery, what happens when he enthuses about his longstanding support for the ounce-of-prevention ban? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/31 "2016-05-10T17:18:16Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > There! I said it. I see a looming Republican catastrophe. > > Also, I predict many of us, including me. will be seriously disappointed with how little the Democrats will change course their rightward trends. If she loses Pennsylvania then she is probably losing in Virginia as well. She might want to rethink beating on Sanders by moving to his left on Gun control. I am willing to bet a good bottle of scotch that we see Clinton “caught” hunting ducks or something like else that shows she is not rabidly anti-gun. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/32 "2016-05-10T17:21:06Z")
Maybe she’ll just shoot Sanders. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/33 "2016-05-10T17:41:24Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I’m not especially interested in mindless warhawkery. I’m wondering what happens if Trump says his _general_ Ban-All-Muslims-From-Entering policy – which is surprisingly popular even now – would’ve stopped these _particular_ Radical Islamic Terrorists from coming here and doing that. > > Sure, he then talks about killing their families or turning sand radioactive or whatever. But even aside from pound-of-cure warhawkery, what happens when he enthuses about his longstanding support for the ounce-of-prevention ban? This is the kind of thing that shows the reversing magnetic field of ideas between the parties. At any one time one side is the party of no ideas and the other is the party of bad ideas. They’ve just switched places again. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/34 "2016-05-10T21:13:40Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Also, I predict many of us, including me. will be seriously disappointed with how little the Democrats will change course their rightward trends. Don’t be. We might not break up the big banks, or make college free, or have single-payer, but incremental progress is an incredibly positive force and will lead to better lives for millions. Even during this historic Republican obstructionism, Obama was able to do things like pass Obamacare, win the gay marriage case, kill Bin Laden, reduce incarceration rates, stop torture, work towards more equal pay and allow women more time and opportunity to sue for discrimination, sign a nuclear treaty with both Russia and Iran, normalize relations with Cuba, and (hopefully) prevent children of undocumented immigrants to stay in the US. Under Clinton, we’ll have 1-3 more liberal SCOTUS justices, probably a big increase to federal minimum wage, even more pay equality, shoring up the loopholes in Obamacare, probably reduce student loans, strengthen unions, and much much more. I would gladly have things continue like business as usual, if it means Democrats are in charge. Plus we know that Democrats won’t pay for a war on a credit card and loot the treasure to give out tax breaks for the rich. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/35 "2016-05-10T22:00:46Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I’d say an act of Radical Islamic Terrorism shortly before the election. > > (The phrase “Radical Islamic Terrorism” will be used by only one of the parties.) That just makes things unpredictable, not an automatic Trump win, IMO. Anyway, there’s a similar thread for the reverse prediction (not as all encompassing, granted), so there’s no harm in this one coexisting. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/36 "2016-05-10T22:46:01Z")
My predictions: Presidency - Yep Senate - Possibly House - Nope ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/37 "2016-05-11T00:16:53Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > I’m willing to take the enormous reputational risk of prediction, but without the actual risk of betting money on it. 😛 Bill Kristol, is that you…? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/38 "2016-05-11T00:25:00Z")
My understanding is that the 2016 Senate seats look very good for Democrats, as they’re the iteration of the off-year 2010 seats; the 2018 seats look very bad for Democrats, as they iterate the presidential 2012 seats. I want Democrats to scourge Republicans this year, form a bulwark against two years from now. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/39 "2016-05-11T00:38:31Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > The Democrats will take control of the Senate. (And their first action should be to change the filibuster rules. Do it immediately while the iron is hot, or they’ll regret it later.) Like the last time Reid was in control? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/40 "2016-05-11T00:47:57Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Maybe she’ll just shoot Sanders. 😛 No, Sanders will win some backwoods fly-over state, proclaim that the path is wide open for him to win the nomination, and wonder why he’s not president when January comes. Meanwhile, Hillary will continue ignoring him and taking shots at Trump. Hillary needs to sit back and be entertained by his posturing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482.md?page=3)